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PHOENIX PHIL

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Seems it was a week or two ago I was fretting over the .308 I got my older boy for our hunt with HartzView in 2013. Was it too much recoil for the skinny young man? Will I somehow screw him up and help him develop a flinch? Guess not, here he his shooting my .375, a 260gr Accubond running at about 2600fps. He's now at least as tall as me. Somewhere inside that boy at any given moment is most of the contents of a once filled walk in refrigerator, not sure where he puts it.


Also getting his little brother ready for his trip. Off the bench, groups were tightening up as he shot more. Fun day at the range letting the boys do most of the shooting.

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It is rewarding to watch them grow and learn!
 
Time to pull out the .458 B&M for the boy! :A Stars:

Thats very cool Phil.
 
Time to pull out the .458 B&M for the boy! :A Stars:

Thats very cool Phil.

Some full power 300gr loads first, but it'll happen.
 
Nicely done. It is great to see the kids get as much enjoyment as you do.

Thanks stug. Missed you recently joining us, welcome to AH!
 
Way to go Plil! (y) Thanks for posting this. :cool:
 
Phil,

You are exactly the type of Father this goofy world seriously needs right now and I salute you for it.

Regards,
Velo Dog.
 
Phil,

You are exactly the type of Father this goofy world seriously needs right now and I salute you for it.

Regards,
Velo Dog.

Thanks Velo Dog, appreciate that.
 
Phil you are a good man. Teaching children how to shoot, hunt, and fish is one of the most important group of things a man can teach his children. I heard it said once that if you teach a child about God, hunting, fishing, and the outdoors no drug dealer will ever have the chance to teach them anything. Well done sir,my hat's off to you!(y)
 
The young man can use his rifle very well. You should be very proud of him. I started my son out with a 410 shotgun and today he shoots my 416 just fine. They grow up way too fast!
 
Phil you are a good man. Teaching children how to shoot, hunt, and fish is one of the most important group of things a man can teach his children. I heard it said once that if you teach a child about God, hunting, fishing, and the outdoors no drug dealer will ever have the chance to teach them anything. Well done sir,my hat's off to you!(y)

Gracias gizmo. If you ever need some whitetail culling over there, let me know. Hard as heck to get drawn here in Arizona sometimes.
 
The young man can use his rifle very well. You should be very proud of him. I started my son out with a 410 shotgun and today he shoots my 416 just fine. They grow up way too fast!

Both my boys were started on junior model .308's with a muzzle brake and light loads. Both have been slowly brought up to more full power loads. Now Austin is shooting my .375, yes they grow up wy too fast.

Justin, my younger boy got a chance last year to go squirrel hunting. He used my dad's .410 shotgun that he had when he was a kid and was passed along to me.

I didn't start hunting till I was in college. I started on squirrels back in Maryland. I borrowed a 20ga shotgun from a friend of mine the first couple times I went until I got a shotgun of my own. Still wish I had that 870, but that's another story. Well my friend Dave, who I borrowed that shotgun from some 28 years ago, and I kind of went our separate ways and I lost contact with him after graduating from college. This summer through Facebook, we ended up reconnecting through mutual friends. He now lives in the Phoenix area also.

He doesn't hunt anymore and long story short that 20ga is now mine. Combined neither my dad's old Savage single shot .410 or this Ithaca 20ga could get you more than a nice dinner, but they mean the world to me and to be able to pass them down to my boys.
 
Gracias gizmo. If you ever need some whitetail culling over there, let me know. Hard as heck to get drawn here in Arizona sometimes.
. Wish you'd a said something sooner had a whole bunch of does that needed to get whacked this year. I was beggin people to come shoot them.
 
. Wish you'd a said something sooner had a whole bunch of does that needed to get whacked this year. I was beggin people to come shoot them.

Always next year
 
Yup. If we have another year like this year I'll need all the help I can get.
 
Yup. If we have another year like this year I'll need all the help I can get.

And me, the boys and my freezer should be willing to help especially if do not draw elk or fail to connect if I do. Your place is in Turkey, TX right?
 
I mentioned a 20ga shotgun earlier. A bit long yet for the soon to be 12 year old.

 
I was a bit concerned with Justin's groupings, shooting his 7x57, with this very accurate load. And then I figured it out watching him shoot. He was not gripping the rifle correctly with his shooting hand. For whatever reason he was lifting his palm a bit off the grip. Once I saw this and got him corrected, well watch out.

I set the scope to what should have been 2 inches high at 100 yards and had him shoot two more at the Shoot-n-C target......ahh success! His reward was to now start shooting the metal plate at 200 yards and then on to 300 yards, doing very well getting the audible note of a hit. So after 10 of these rounds in succession, I had him shoot the 100 yard again, now with a warm barrel. Third shot was just below the top two.

Good day at the range I'd say. Time to move practice to shooting off the sticks.

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