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I hope that this is started in the right forum. If it isn't, I'm sure one of the Admins will move it.
In recent history, I've noticed some disturbing trends when traveling to Africa to hunt. Some of these are:
American and United Airlines demanding Import permits when they are only a domestic leg of travel;
Delaying of baggage and firearms;
Destruction of ammo boxes and rifle cases;
Other assorted assclownery.
THE POINT OF THIS THREAD IS TO SHARE INFORMATION AND RECORD WHAT IS HAPPENING. THIS THREAD IS NOT LIMITED TO TSA. AIRLINES RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT MATERIALIZE OUT OF THIN AIR WITH NO WRITTEN POLICY TO BACK THEM UP ARE IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
My friend, @Goose Cracker, had his ammo box maliciously destroyed recently on his way to South Africa even though he had TSA locks. . This happened in ATL or DFW. This evening, he picked up his Tuffpak and discovered that they destroyed the keylock and attached a battered TSA combo lock to the buckle. No combo was provided to him. He's going to post pictures when he gets to his house.
Maybe I'm unlucky, but on seven international hunting trips (Newfoundland 2, Southern Africa 5) I've seen my share of pointless destruction. On my first trip to Newfoundland in September of 2017, I arrived in Toronto with my rifle still in Vegas. I had arrived at the airport with more than two hours to flight time. The rifle eventually caught up to me in Deer lake, but I lost a hunting day. I've had two ammo boxes destroyed. Both times, TSA cut the locks and then quite pointedly cut the hasp on at least one side rendering the box unusable in the future. Maybe this really isn't that bad, but it's a disturbing trend. I utilized TSA combo locks (with keyholes for a TSA key) on my ammo case for the trip to Zambia with the great Spike-T at Takeri and nothing happened. I know that there are strong opinions about using TSA locks. I just got tired of having them cut my locks and destroy my ammo boxes. To be clear, there is nothing in my ammo box other than ammo and nothing in my rifle case except shooting sticks and a rifle.
To be clear, my rifle cases and my ammo boxes are fitted with tags with my name, email address and cell phone number. Getting ahold of me is not a problem.
My Pelican 1750 has obviously been thrown end over end. Thankfully, I have burly locks. Those have significant cosmetic damage.
I leave on 05/10 on the LAS-IAH-DOH-JNB route. I always worry a little, but I'm actually concerned about my stuff arriving in one piece. If my ammo box is destroyed, I'll be in a tough situation for the Airlink flight to Port Elizabeth. I'm taking my .338-06 as my only rifle. Love the rifle and the caliber, but I'm starting to regret my decision. I'm not finding that ammo anywhere. I would if I needed .30-06 and 9.3x62. Removing the bolt and "accidentally setting it aside" is going to be an expensive fix when I get back to the US.
So, please share your experiences. Somebody smarter than I may come up with a way to get this to stop. Yes, I know you can file a claim for damaged property, but that doesn't change the behavior and this is being done with no concern of repercussions or consequences.
In recent history, I've noticed some disturbing trends when traveling to Africa to hunt. Some of these are:
American and United Airlines demanding Import permits when they are only a domestic leg of travel;
Delaying of baggage and firearms;
Destruction of ammo boxes and rifle cases;
Other assorted assclownery.
THE POINT OF THIS THREAD IS TO SHARE INFORMATION AND RECORD WHAT IS HAPPENING. THIS THREAD IS NOT LIMITED TO TSA. AIRLINES RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT MATERIALIZE OUT OF THIN AIR WITH NO WRITTEN POLICY TO BACK THEM UP ARE IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
My friend, @Goose Cracker, had his ammo box maliciously destroyed recently on his way to South Africa even though he had TSA locks. . This happened in ATL or DFW. This evening, he picked up his Tuffpak and discovered that they destroyed the keylock and attached a battered TSA combo lock to the buckle. No combo was provided to him. He's going to post pictures when he gets to his house.
Maybe I'm unlucky, but on seven international hunting trips (Newfoundland 2, Southern Africa 5) I've seen my share of pointless destruction. On my first trip to Newfoundland in September of 2017, I arrived in Toronto with my rifle still in Vegas. I had arrived at the airport with more than two hours to flight time. The rifle eventually caught up to me in Deer lake, but I lost a hunting day. I've had two ammo boxes destroyed. Both times, TSA cut the locks and then quite pointedly cut the hasp on at least one side rendering the box unusable in the future. Maybe this really isn't that bad, but it's a disturbing trend. I utilized TSA combo locks (with keyholes for a TSA key) on my ammo case for the trip to Zambia with the great Spike-T at Takeri and nothing happened. I know that there are strong opinions about using TSA locks. I just got tired of having them cut my locks and destroy my ammo boxes. To be clear, there is nothing in my ammo box other than ammo and nothing in my rifle case except shooting sticks and a rifle.
To be clear, my rifle cases and my ammo boxes are fitted with tags with my name, email address and cell phone number. Getting ahold of me is not a problem.
My Pelican 1750 has obviously been thrown end over end. Thankfully, I have burly locks. Those have significant cosmetic damage.
I leave on 05/10 on the LAS-IAH-DOH-JNB route. I always worry a little, but I'm actually concerned about my stuff arriving in one piece. If my ammo box is destroyed, I'll be in a tough situation for the Airlink flight to Port Elizabeth. I'm taking my .338-06 as my only rifle. Love the rifle and the caliber, but I'm starting to regret my decision. I'm not finding that ammo anywhere. I would if I needed .30-06 and 9.3x62. Removing the bolt and "accidentally setting it aside" is going to be an expensive fix when I get back to the US.
So, please share your experiences. Somebody smarter than I may come up with a way to get this to stop. Yes, I know you can file a claim for damaged property, but that doesn't change the behavior and this is being done with no concern of repercussions or consequences.
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