Rowbeeone
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I have a friend trying to sell this rifle. I need to get more pics, but going to post it here at the advice of @CZDiesel.
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Agreed. Collector value is in unmolested state.. This has been butchered and set reasonable expectations with the estate. Likely 9-10K original. Butchered value is likely 4-6K.I think you will lucky to get half of that price, at best.
Winchester Pre-64 Model 70 Supergrade African 458 (1956)
It is part of an estate sale that we are helping out with. I just got some better pictures. I'm going to post them. I think the rules state I have to list a price, but still trying to get some help with a figure, so for now 8k-10k (negotiable). Let me know what you think.
Whatever that thing on the end of the barrel isn't right on a .458 Supergrade!
Also, the gouge on the front sight speeks volumes as to this rifle's life.
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I like the receiver sight but... there is an extra crossbolt or something holding the stock together.
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Here's the other side with the same extra crossbolt thing.
That's also a lot, I mean a lot of extra checkering!
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Have the bolt handle and bottom metal had all the blueing polished off them?
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This Supergrade has a butchered barrel and a butchered stock along with no blueing let on the bolt handle and bottom metal.
Only because this was a M70 .458 Win Supergrade, it may sell at $3,000. List it for $4,000 and wait for a bite, and wait... The same rifle in same condition in .375 H&H would bring $2,000 on a good day.
I wonder what @rookhawk will say about this one?
Especially with the muzzle brake. Not sure if it’s detachable (can’t tell from the pics), but it kills the original profile of the barrel.I think you will lucky to get half of that price, at best.
You are 100% correct. As a terrible investment, someone will buy it for $3000 which is an awful decision. They'll restore all the metal, polishing out the chips. They'll remove the muzzle brake. They'll try to conceal it with a muzzle cap. They'll then spend a fortune on a worthless replica stock. In the end, they'll have $5000+ into it and it will be worth $4200ish for a restored and reworked pre-64 super in 458.
If the rifle has a bobbed barrel already, then its a grimmer picture than I've painted.
Postscript: This is predicated on it having the rear sight on the barrel (worth $500 alone) and that someone would TIG weld the aperture sight screws closed during resto unless that year had them by default, in which case they'd plug them. The aperture sight has to go.
Listen to this man on Model 70’s!!...In forty plus years of buying and selling Model 70's, I have never seen a more butchered example.
Originally Winchester produced 1226 Africans. With this iteration, there is, for sure, one less.