Coupe De Grace magnum action: Any members have such an action?

[Gert Odendaal]

Good day to all members. I am in need of information. I have been told about this action/receiver that is available at a decent price .This action will definitely work for my .338 Imperial Magnum build project..the action is currently the only outstanding item I need to enable me to start the building process .
I want to permanently import this action direct from the company selling these actions.
I would like to hear from members who are using this action currently on a rifle .https://americanrifle.odoo.com/shop...ion-1747#attr=491,494,495,519,512,522,514,516

 

[Ontario Hunter]

That is different. First I've heard of them. What barrel configuration (threads) are they set up for?

 

[gbflyer]

Ted is a brilliant engineer, slightly odd. The action is good, you are going to have to use a Remington 700 style trigger which is not the best in terms of reliability over a broad range of field conditions. Depending on the intent of the rifle that might be ok. Also the action is going to use a detachable AICS style magazine. Again nothing wrong with it, just so you are aware it isn’t going to be a conventional looking rifle you’d see used in Africa.

 

[khesser]

I built a 7 PRC using this action. Maybe I should a write up on the rifle. I had absolutely no issues with the action on my trip to South Africa. I paired it with a BixN Andy TacSport X 2 stage trigger. Those who say Rem 700 style triggers aren’t reliable haven’t used a BixN Andy trigger. I have not once had an issue with one and have put them through some rough conditions. With the pivoting bolt handle extraction on a magnum cartridge is very slick. With the adjustable trigger hanger you can dial in your sear engagement on the trigger. Fairly easy to do but I recommend watching some videos on YouTube for your first time. I use American Rifle Company Mausingfield action for my 338 Lapua and the Nucleus for my PRS competition rifle. I have not had any issues with American Rifle Company actions. Also I recommend using Blue Mountain Precision to do your barrels if you buy this action. If you send him a barrel or if they have a barrel in stock he can chamber it for you without needing the action and turn around is a few weeks. If you have any questions let me know.

 

[Inline6]

Have a 6GT built on a short action.

I did not do the flutes on the bolt. It has been a reliable action this far. Have not put it through harsh conditions as of yet. They are well engineered. The pivoting bolt handle takes a little time to get the feel for it. After 500rds, it still doesn't feel natural.

 

[gbflyer]

I built a 7 PRC using this action. Maybe I should a write up on the rifle. I had absolutely no issues with the action on my trip to South Africa. I paired it with a BixN Andy TacSport X 2 stage trigger. Those who say Rem 700 style triggers aren’t reliable haven’t used a BixN Andy trigger. I have not once had an issue with one and have put them through some rough conditions. With the pivoting bolt handle extraction on a magnum cartridge is very slick. With the adjustable trigger hanger you can dial in your sear engagement on the trigger. Fairly easy to do but I recommend watching some videos on YouTube for your first time. I use American Rifle Company Mausingfield action for my 338 Lapua and the Nucleus for my PRS competition rifle. I have not had any issues with American Rifle Company actions. Also I recommend using Blue Mountain Precision to do your barrels if you buy this action. If you send him a barrel or if they have a barrel in stock he can chamber it for you without needing the action and turn around is a few weeks. If you have any questions let me know.

Nice looking rig.

There is no cassette trigger that has the reliability of an open trigger such as Winchester 70. They will all freeze and malfunction in the dust. Most of the time that isn’t life and death.

 

[Inline6]

Nice looking rig.

There is no cassette trigger that has the reliability of an open trigger such as Winchester 70. They will all freeze and malfunction in the dust. Most of the time that isn’t life and death.

I would argue that AI rifles are some of the most reliable rifles built. Their trigger is a "cassette" type. They are made to operate in temp of -50°F.

I had a self induced problem with one of mine. I wiped the gease off of it. Was in the middle of a match and a rain stom hit that was dumping enough rain you could not see the 200 yard targets (that COF we had to go from 150 to 850). The rain draining into the action caused to trigger to get more than just a little damp. That caused a dead trigger, when that stage was over. I shoot one more stage and realized what happened. Because I cleaned the grease off of it, it did not have a way to keep the parts lubricated. The rain washed what little bit was remaining. That caused the dead trigger. I used some slide grease to get me through the rest of the match. Order the correct grease, no problem at all after that. I'm north of 20k rds on that rifle. Know several people with that much to double on there AIs and know one instructor who has 250k + rds on one of his AWs (same trigger older model).

 

[khesser]

Nice looking rig.

There is no cassette trigger that has the reliability of an open trigger such as Winchester 70. They will all freeze and malfunction in the dust. Most of the time that isn’t life and death.

Anything mechanical can fail. I’m sure you can find cases of Winchester 70 triggers failing. Not all cassette style triggers are equal and why I use the TacSport from BixN Andy. It’s sealed trigger that you can service and I have not had an issue with one since I started running them. If you shoot field style matches in Oklahoma and Kansas you will test a triggers durability with the fine dust that blows around. I shoot thousands of rounds a year in PRS competitions and have not had an issue with one yet. I have enough confidence in the BixN Andy trigger I would use one on a dangerous game rifle without worry.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Ted is a brilliant engineer, slightly odd. The action is good, you are going to have to use a Remington 700 style trigger which is not the best in terms of reliability over a broad range of field conditions. Depending on the intent of the rifle that might be ok. Also the action is going to use a detachable AICS style magazine. Again nothing wrong with it, just so you are aware it isn’t going to be a conventional looking rifle you’d see used in Africa.

Thank you kindly for your valuable input, it is much appreciated. I send e-mails to the company but did not receive any feedback..is there another way to get in contact with Ted..

 

[Gert Odendaal]

I built a 7 PRC using this action. Maybe I should a write up on the rifle. I had absolutely no issues with the action on my trip to South Africa. I paired it with a BixN Andy TacSport X 2 stage trigger. Those who say Rem 700 style triggers aren’t reliable haven’t used a BixN Andy trigger. I have not once had an issue with one and have put them through some rough conditions. With the pivoting bolt handle extraction on a magnum cartridge is very slick. With the adjustable trigger hanger you can dial in your sear engagement on the trigger. Fairly easy to do but I recommend watching some videos on YouTube for your first time. I use American Rifle Company Mausingfield action for my 338 Lapua and the Nucleus for my PRS competition rifle. I have not had any issues with American Rifle Company actions. Also I recommend using Blue Mountain Precision to do your barrels if you buy this action. If you send him a barrel or if they have a barrel in stock he can chamber it for you without needing the action and turn around is a few weeks. If you have any questions let me know.

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Khesser, thank you very much, this informative reply is much appreciated for sure..I want to build my .338 Imperial Magnum (404 Jeffery case necked down to a .338 caliber..on this action..I am in South Africa and already have a 32" inch .338 barrel..I only need an action and a trigger that is all the rest I have to build it on a chassis..but I will contact you to ask some questions.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Anything mechanical can fail. I’m sure you can find cases of Winchester 70 triggers failing. Not all cassette style triggers are equal and why I use the TacSport from BixN Andy. It’s sealed trigger that you can service and I have not had an issue with one since I started running them. If you shoot field style matches in Oklahoma and Kansas you will test a triggers durability with the fine dust that blows around. I shoot thousands of rounds a year in PRS competitions and have not had an issue with one yet. I have enough confidence in the BixN Andy trigger I would use one on a dangerous game rifle without worry.

Maybe I should use the trigger on my 404 Jeffery

 

[khesser]

Khesser, thank you very much, this informative reply is much appreciated for sure..I want to build my .338 Imperial Magnum (404 Jeffery case necked down to a .338 caliber..on this action..I am in South Africa and already have a 32" inch .338 barrel..I only need an action and a trigger that is all the rest I have to build it on a chassis..but I will contact you to ask some questions.

In your first post I missed you are located in RSA. It is Labor Day weekend here so I wouldn’t expect a response till tomorrow. Also the price on these actions is going up next week I believe. You might have better luck with a phone call. Just know they are about 9 or 10 hours behind you. Even if you have to pay the increased price it’s still worth it in my opinion. But if that’s a deal breaker the Zermatt Origin is a very good action at $1000 usd. I’d still pick the CDG action over it, I have 4 rifles built using Zermatt actions for what it’s worth.

 

[khesser]

Maybe I should use the trigger on my 404 Jeffery

If it’s on a Rem 700 style action I would.
But for the ARC Coupe De Grâce the BixN Andy trigger is perfect. I think you would like this one. I use it on my 338 Lapua I hunt with and it’s performed just fine hunting coastal Alaska, interior Alaska in the winter and in the Kalahari.

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[Gert Odendaal]

khesser, I really appreciate your input and knowledge for sure...I will be contacting you in the near future in regards to this action and trigger combination ..what is important to me is to choose the correct magazine that the .338 Imperial Magnum OAL round will fit in the magazine, I do not want to shoot this rifle with single shot option at all..

 

[khesser]

Are you going to put this barreled action in a chassis or traditional rifle stock? If you’re looking at a chassis and the mag well accepts CIP length AICS mags then I would try the Accurate Mag 300 RUM magazines. The 338 IM and 300 RUM case dimensions are close enough I think the 338 IM would feed just fine. If you’re going to do a stock and need a detachable bottom metal I recommend looking at what Hawkins Precision has to offer. They have two versions, a hunter version that uses their mags and a M5 version that accepts AICS pattern mags from AI, Accurate Mag, and MDT.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

khesser, the case rim diameter is : .338 Imperial Magnum case.
13.79mm(0.534inc)
REMMINTON 700 chassis inlet
Flat breech barrel die .338 Imperial Magnum se Rim diameter 13.79 mm (0.543 in) is hierdie diameter..
Long actions are intended for use with AW magazines,
Bix'N Andy Tac Sport, trigger
Standard 1913 Picatinny
This is what I am looking at..would like to hear your opinion..I am trying to get hold of this company, so far no positive results at all.I want to personally import these items myself. I have a FFL /Gunsmith Shop I am working from. I do have competency to Trade in Fire Arms and Ammo and may permanently import from the USA.

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[Gert Odendaal]

Are you going to put this barreled action in a chassis or traditional rifle stock? If you’re looking at a chassis and the mag well accepts CIP length AICS mags then I would try the Accurate Mag 300 RUM magazines. The 338 IM and 300 RUM case dimensions are close enough I think the 338 IM would feed just fine. If you’re going to do a stock and need a detachable bottom metal I recommend looking at what Hawkins Precision has to offer. They have two versions, a hunter version that uses their mags and a M5 version that accepts AICS pattern mags from AI, Accurate Mag, and MDT.

I am going the chassis way, we have two options here is South Africa, the AIM Chassis or the Warrior chassis , both can be used in the Remington 700 footprint
I already have the ATLAS BT70 bi-pod, a .338 barrel. 32inch , will fit a magnum silencer, so all in all I am able to put together a accurate long range fun shooting/gong shooting hunting rifle ..

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Are you going to put this barreled action in a chassis or traditional rifle stock? If you’re looking at a chassis and the mag well accepts CIP length AICS mags then I would try the Accurate Mag 300 RUM magazines. The 338 IM and 300 RUM case dimensions are close enough I think the 338 IM would feed just fine. If you’re going to do a stock and need a detachable bottom metal I recommend looking at what Hawkins Precision has to offer. They have two versions, a hunter version that uses their mags and a M5 version that accepts AICS pattern mags from AI, Accurate Mag, and MDT.

I will ask the Chassis company if their magazine well/magazines are compatible . Will give them all information regards the Coupe de Grace action and suitable trigger.

 

[Andama]

ARC Certainly makes some of the best products you will find. I have been selling their stuff for going on two years now and it never fails to impress me. I am awaiting parts for a personal CDG build right now. FYI, the price has just increased. They were sold WAY to cheap initially, they are now priced more competitively to other actions but still on the lower end. They are now listed at 1199.

 

[Andama]

Ted is a brilliant engineer, slightly odd. The action is good, you are going to have to use a Remington 700 style trigger which is not the best in terms of reliability over a broad range of field conditions. Depending on the intent of the rifle that might be ok. Also the action is going to use a detachable AICS style magazine. Again nothing wrong with it, just so you are aware it isn’t going to be a conventional looking rifle you’d see used in Africa.

Spot on, but the Hawkins Hunter mags have a flush fit and their bottom metal has no levers that can get caught on things. You do not need to run a traditional M5 bottom metal with a AICS mag hanging out the bottom.