Getting my Zastava to feed 9.3x62

Tam Dl

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I have a nice Zastava, SS, Mauser in 9.3x62, but it won't feed worth a dime. Actually It is mostly just the first round. With three total down. I am away form my main tools, and so this was a preliminary exploration with very little attempted, my main tool was a diamond broadhead file. I don't need to hear about how I need to take it to a pro, as if that was an option, and this is just exploratory.

The main thing I found was that on the ramp into the chamber, at the top, there is a significant, and somewhat rough lip that folds back into the magazine, so it is able to grab a cartridge. I polished it a little, but I will need to be in my shop to remove it. Even that polishing helped. It probably is exactly what it looks like: A rough casting. The only other Mauser I currently own is a Dumoulin action, I have a barrel for also. Back at home base also. But I can't imagine there is supposed to be a rough intrusion at the top of the ramp.

The other main deal is the back of the cartridge is not slipping to the bolt head from under the rail, and there is actual brass accumulating there. I polished it also, and that helped. It now feeds, however, no metal was removed other than as with stoning a knife edge, so the problem is still somewhat there. Because I think there is a foil of sharp material that overhangs in places, and one can see some casting details that were left in corners, so they obviously don't get everything done.

I think these rifles are sorta patterned around the 30-06 dimensions which also reach back to earlier German types, so it does not seem as though it should malfunction as might be the case when they try to get the 458s feeding out of this platform.

Here is something else I didn't expect. Am I wrong? External star lock washers under the action bolts. I tried leaving them out, however the bolt would not close, so they seem to be standard issue. Is that normal? I could examine the bearing surfaces and see if they can be refined, and the screw shortened, so the whole thing works without the washers. But then, maybe it is a concession to the stainless screws, and galling?
 
Being a fan of Chrome molly blued Zastavas i have looked at the finish on their stainless rifles & they looked very rough like its cast or some thing. i built a 9.3x62 out of a commercial FN M98 30/06 & had to remove a little metal may be1.5 mm from the front of the LH feed rail to get it to feed from that side it now feeds very well. 1 own 2 zastavas a 375 H&H & an 8x57 both are well finished & operate well .
 
I think you are right about the receivers being cast. Some of the blobs just couldn't be anything else. I wonder what process they use, I hope it is a strong one as with Rugers. There is quite a lot to remove on the top of the ramp. About as thick as the cover of a book of matches.
 
Just to be clear, the overall external finish on the rifle is very nice, if all it takes to make it perfect is a little filing and polishing, that will just add to my enjoyment. I like stainless rifles because I am a waterman at heart, and because I do minor work on rifles, and it solves the problem relative to having to reblue every time one touches them.

Unfortunately, I think it also needs a new stock. There are some pluses to the Tupperware stock it came with. Hard to deform the barrel channel when shooting, even with a sling. The butt is very forgiving, unfortunately, I just noticed it has started stickind to the floor. lol.
 
I used a Dremel tool to reshape the feeding rails, ramp, and follower on my 30-06 98 Mauser to cycle 404 Jeffery. How are the magazine box and receiver mating up at the top of the box? Sounds like the ramp is overhanging into the box? If that is the case, don't be afraid to cut it back to match the box. And of course maintain the angle and contour of the ramp.
 
Thanks for the advice OH.

Here is a pic. The two bright spots are the blobs of metal that I touched with the file. They are on the right side of the feed ramp, on the way into the chamber. The left side is smooth and in the shadow.

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If one puts one's finger in there the blobs are high enough above the ramp that they hold you fingernail solidly Not a recommendation as to quality control but an easy fix.

The undersides of the rails are pretty sharp, and in one spot are shaving brass. I will go carefully there.
 
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Thanks for the advice OH.

Here is a pic. The two bright spots are the blobs of metal that I touched with the file. They are on the right side of the feed ramp, on the way into the chamber. The left side is smooth and in the shadow.

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If one puts one's finger in there the blobs are high enough above the ramp that they hold you fingernail solidly Not a recommendation as to quality control but an easy fix.

The undersides of the rails are pretty sharp, and in one spot are shaving brass. I will go carefully there.
If you can find green grinding stones for your Dremel, those are more for polishing than grinding.
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Let me know how it goes. My rifle is gone for bluing or I'd send a couple of pictures of its altered ramp.

I am surprised that minor obstruction on the top of the ramp would block cartridges from entering the chamber. Is shell hanging up at start or end of closing? Even more baffling is the problem seems mostly loading the top of three rounds in magazine. I'm thinking the problem is mostly feeding rail on that side and/or the extractor. Be careful carving on rails.
 
Thanks for the advice OH.

Here is a pic. The two bright spots are the blobs of metal that I touched with the file. They are on the right side of the feed ramp, on the way into the chamber. The left side is smooth and in the shadow.

View attachment 556762

If one puts one's finger in there the blobs are high enough above the ramp that they hold you fingernail solidly Not a recommendation as to quality control but an easy fix.

The undersides of the rails are pretty sharp, and in one spot are shaving brass. I will go carefully there.
@Tam Dl
Sounds like you have answered your own questions. A bit of judicial work with a file or dremel tool with a fine abrasive and a repolish should solve the problems. Just proceed slowly and continually check. It's easy to take off but impossible to put back on.
Just my 2 cents.
Bob
 
If you can find green grinding stones for your Dremel, those are more for polishing than grinding.
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Let me know how it goes. My rifle is gone for bluing or I'd send a couple of pictures of its altered ramp.

I am surprised that minor obstruction on the top of the ramp would block cartridges from entering the chamber. Is shell hanging up at start or end of closing? Even more baffling is the problem seems mostly loading the top of three rounds in magazine. I'm thinking the problem is mostly feeding rail on that side and/or the extractor. Be careful carving on rails.
@Ontario Hunter
When I had my Whelen AI built on a M17 action we had a bucket full of trouble getting it to feed the first round from the left hand side. It had my gunsmith stumped for a couple of days. Fortunately he didn't remove any metal to start with.
This rifle should have been as slick as anything being a 30-06 action but it wasn't.
After thinking about it my smith decided to change mag followers to see if that helped. He had a nice polished follower laying around. As soon as he took the old follower out and compared it to the replacement it was as obvious as the balls on a boar pig. Some Muppet at some time had replaced the 06 follower with a 303 Brit follower.
Replaced follower after fed like a newborn baby.
Goes to show even something as simple as a follower can cause a bucket full of problems. Fortunately my gunsmith is a GUNSMITH not a blacksmith, he thinks first.
Bob
 
@Ontario Hunter
When I had my Whelen AI built on a M17 action we had a bucket full of trouble getting it to feed the first round from the left hand side. It had my gunsmith stumped for a couple of days. Fortunately he didn't remove any metal to start with.
This rifle should have been as slick as anything being a 30-06 action but it wasn't.
After thinking about it my smith decided to change mag followers to see if that helped. He had a nice polished follower laying around. As soon as he took the old follower out and compared it to the replacement it was as obvious as the balls on a boar pig. Some Muppet at some time had replaced the 06 follower with a 303 Brit follower.
Replaced follower after fed like a newborn baby.
Goes to show even something as simple as a follower can cause a bucket full of problems. Fortunately my gunsmith is a GUNSMITH not a blacksmith, he thinks first.
Bob
Interesting that the problem was "first round". I would have thought it would have been the last round to come up backed below by wrong follower that would foul.
 
Interesting that the problem was "first round". I would have thought it would have been the last round to come up backed below by wrong follower that would foul.
@Ontario Hunter
I was the first, second fed fine, the 3rd would get hung up, 4th fine, 5th slight hang up and 6th fine.
Yes the M17s will hold 6 rounds.
I didn't like the guppy belly tho and we straightened the floor plate and stock to match. That then makes it 5 round capacity. Nicer looking.
Bob
 
Bob, it's obviously a feeding rail issue, whichever side the cartridge is up against first and third rounds when fully loaded. Are those rounds jumping under the extractor at the same place in the closing stroke as the second and fourth rounds? Sounds like the first and third are not making the jump early enough.
 

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