Stetsonham
AH veteran
Thought everyone here would find this interesting. This YouTube channel was posted last year when he hunted in South Africa.
Population increase is definitely the biggest threat imoWe're screwed. This will only get worse with population increase. And think about the ramifications for leopard--less food base for them.
Agreed. Highly doubt that any season is being followed by the law and I’m sure there is no quota on take per species as well as I’m sure meat from outside Ghana makes its way to the market.Well worth watching. I think they were eating royal antelope not dik-dik though. I’m kinda like the presenter and torn on the subject. People have to eat but the indiscriminate killing of any animal, old male, young and female is not sustainable. It was a little encouraging that they do have a season but not sure how they enforce it and they are naive if they think that the poachers abide by any type of season or laws.
it perhaps should be monitored to stop the illegal stuff but if they hunt legally and have safe practices then they are just running an enterprise as society would have it .Bottom line, people are going to eat.
Not trying to be rude, but I don’t think you are seeing how dysfunctional Africa is outside of South Africa and Namibia. Bushmeat isn’t just another industry like cattle or sheep. It’s completely unsustainable and depletes areas of any wildlife. Unfortunately as human populations grow isolated areas that were formally somewhat protected come under pressure now as well. The level of poaching I saw where I hunted in Cameroon I don’t expect there to be wildlife in those areas in 5 years (more likely 2-3) unless another operator takes over and gets serious on anti-poaching. A poacher caught while I was there had just killed a buffalo. It was his third time caught and turned into police and released each time with a small fine and that’s with a hunting operator there pushing for convictions. There is no will in many government agencies to enforce wildlife laws especially in countries where it doesn’t generate foreign currency, also in many cases authorities have been bribed by poachers to turn a blind eye. Unfortunately, many black Africans see wildlife as a resource that cannot run out. The wildlife will likely be gone in many areas as populations grow before the culture can change if it ever does. Where I just finished hunting in Zimbabwe, the outfitter spends roughly $100k per year to keep mainly bushmeat poaching in check or the area would be depleted in a relatively short time. They can pick up snares, shoot dogs, and scare poachers off but it’s unfortunately a never ending battle. Personally I wish the locals could hunt low value animals like duiker, impala, Guinea fowl but if they have that opportunity they’ll use it to hunt sable, roan, buffalo as well. A place like Ghana or Nigeria or other countries where hunting generates no foreign currency, I can’t blame the locals for hunting/poaching, but it’s only a matter of time until there is no major wildlife left. Lord Derby eland should stretch from Senegal to South Sudan but are only found in a few isolated pockets now mainly due population growth and bushmeat. There also is generally no shortage of cattle or corn meal (often from US) in these areas so it’s not a question of lack of access to protein.it perhaps should be monitored to stop the illegal stuff but if they hunt legally and have safe practices then they are just running an enterprise as society would have it .
They are now living in settlements and it’s local trade. No doubt they can’t afford meat through the commercial supply chain but my understanding is that wild game meat is sold commercially.
If there is a push to ban “Bushmeat” is there a push to ban “Game meat”?
What am I not seeing here?
Is this about illegal hunting, protected species or the less regulated meat markets in poorer areas?
Thanks,Not trying to be rude, but I don’t think you are seeing how dysfunctional Africa is outside of South Africa and Namibia. Bushmeat isn’t just another industry like cattle or sheep. It’s completely unsustainable and depletes areas of any wildlife. Unfortunately as human populations grow isolated areas that were formally somewhat protected come under pressure now as well. The level of poaching I saw where I hunted in Cameroon I don’t expect there to be wildlife in those areas in 5 years (more likely 2-3) unless another operator takes over and gets serious on anti-poaching. A poacher caught while I was there had just killed a buffalo. It was his third time caught and turned into police and released each time with a small fine and that’s with a hunting operator there pushing for convictions. There is no will in many government agencies to enforce wildlife laws especially in countries where it doesn’t generate foreign currency, also in many cases authorities have been bribed by poachers to turn a blind eye. Unfortunately, many black Africans see wildlife as a resource that cannot run out. The wildlife will likely be gone in many areas as populations grow before the culture can change if it ever does. Where I just finished hunting in Zimbabwe, the outfitter spends roughly $100k per year to keep mainly bushmeat poaching in check or the area would be depleted in a relatively short time. They can pick up snares, shoot dogs, and scare poachers off but it’s unfortunately a never ending battle. Personally I wish the locals could hunt low value animals like duiker, impala, Guinea fowl but if they have that opportunity they’ll use it to hunt sable, roan, buffalo as well. A place like Ghana or Nigeria or other countries where hunting generates no foreign currency, I can’t blame the locals for hunting/poaching, but it’s only a matter of time until there is no major wildlife left. Lord Derby eland should stretch from Senegal to South Sudan but are only found in a few isolated pockets now mainly due population growth and bushmeat. There also is generally no shortage of cattle or corn meal (often from US) in these areas so it’s not a question of lack of access to protein.
Here is just a fraction of the snares and spears picked up this year where I hunted in Zimbabwe in July. There is unfortunately no sustainable bushmeat trade outside South Africa or Namibia.
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They unfortunately hunt/poach anywhere there is wildlife that isn’t heavily protected. The more wildlife the more incentive to take risk of poaching in areas with active anti-poaching or traveling long distances and set up camps for weeks. South Africa and Namibia are very civilized and organized. The difference between South Africa and a place like Cameroon or CAR might be similar to comparing Australia to a place like New Guinea.Thanks,
I don’t agree with the poaching and illegal hunting or corruption.
But I don’t know where the people are hunting either.
I’ve only seen a small part of South Africa and don’t know much of the neighbouring countries.