Mauser Magnum M98 .416 Rigby for Roe deer video

[littlebear]

Maybe some of you have seen it before, but video was new to me when I found it today.

 

[Rob404]

Great

 

[Ridge Runner]

Cool vid.

 

[sierraone]

Great video, but a .416 Rigby was a little overkill, don't you think!

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

Beautiful video.

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

Great video, but a .416 Rigby was a little overkill, don't you think!

+1

 

[Opposite Pole]

One finds the strangest things on this forum. 22lr for Buffalo, 416 Rigby for Roe deer...

 

[Red Leg]

Nice production quality. Proportionally about the same as using a 600 nitro on a whitetail.

This fellow does indeed take his trusty, familiar, open-sighted Mauser to Africa. His buffalo hunt takes place in Tanzania with Rainer Josh and is one of the three vignettes that make up the dvd “Buffalo Hunters” (perhaps the best buffalo hunting video - certainly the most beautiful - ever filmed - available through Safari Press - or was). Regrettably, he wounds and looses his first bull - eventually successfully taking a second.

 

[Opposite Pole]

He also did some nice videos hunting Moose and Caribou with open sighted Krieghoff double.

 

[Hoss Delgado]

My granddad said " I would rather shoot a rabbit with a .375 , than an elephant with a .22 ." Is Overkill really an issue as big as people say it is ? You often hear these stories of little critters being Disintegrated by large caliber rounds . But l haven't really seen anything of the sort.
Some guy in Australia used a .600 Nitro Express on Feral goats without blowing them up.
Many of my fellow Americans have used .500 Jefferies and .505 Gibbs on Feral hogs without them blowing up.
I've personally shot a roe deer with a .375 HH Magnum using 270 grainers. That ended up being my lunch .
Yes , big calibers can be unnecessarily powerful for the smaller critters . But hey , they can work , if you download and use lighter bullets. I'd rather be overgunned than under.

 

[Mike Van Horn]

One finds the strangest things on this forum. 22lr for Buffalo, 416 Rigby for Roe deer...

Oh wait we like the same thing. No way

 

[Opposite Pole]

My granddad said " I would rather shoot a rabbit with a .375 , than an elephant with a .22 ." Is Overkill really an issue as big as people say it is ? You often hear these stories of little critters being Disintegrated by large caliber rounds . But l haven't really seen anything of the sort.
Some guy in Australia used a .600 Nitro Express on Feral goats without blowing them up.
Many of my fellow Americans have used .500 Jefferies and .505 Gibbs on Feral hogs without them blowing up.
I've personally shot a roe deer with a .375 HH Magnum using 270 grainers. That ended up being my lunch .
Yes , big calibers can be unnecessarily powerful for the smaller critters . But hey , they can work , if you download and use lighter bullets. I'd rather be overgunned than under.

You’re absolutely right and I have in fact head shot a rabbit for a pot with 375H&H. Worked fine but one does need to be careful, the rock behind the rabbit got split in half - ricochets are dangerous! Also you don’t necessarily need to download bigger boomers. Going with a heavy, stout projectile works ok as the bullet acts almost like a solid. I’ve also used 375 on Roe (270gr Brenneke Tog) and damage was minimal.

 

[Hoss Delgado]

You’re absolutely right and I have in fact head shot a rabbit for a pot with 375H&H. Worked fine but one does need to be careful, the rock behind the rabbit got split in half - ricochets are dangerous! Also you don’t necessarily need to download bigger boomers. Going with a heavy, stout projectile works ok as the bullet acts almost like a solid. I’ve also used 375 on Roe (270gr Brenneke Tog) and damage was minimal.

Opposite Pole, spot on . I only used a rifle for roe deer once . Normally , l hunt roe deer with a 10 gauge shotgun loaded with #1 bird shot with dogs .

 

[Red Leg]

Opposite Pole, spot on . I only used a rifle for roe deer once . Normally , l hunt roe deer with a 10 gauge shotgun loaded with #1 bird shot with dogs .

Curious where you accomplish that?

All my roe deer were taken in Germany and Austria (I would guess fifty or sixty over the years) where considerable effort was made to insure that all deer taken carefully fit the annual shooting plan. Obviously, a rifle was imperative in such selective shooting. Not sure how that could have been accomplished with bird shot from a shotgun. In fact, I am pretty sure it isn’t legal in those countries.

 

[Red Leg]

You’re absolutely right and I have in fact head shot a rabbit for a pot with 375H&H. Worked fine but one does need to be careful, the rock behind the rabbit got split in half - ricochets are dangerous! Also you don’t necessarily need to download bigger boomers. Going with a heavy, stout projectile works ok as the bullet acts almost like a solid. I’ve also used 375 on Roe (270gr Brenneke Tog) and damage was minimal.

You are right of course. But, part of the joy in using a rifle, for me at least, is balancing it to the game. Like the fellow above, I “could” drag a .416 or .375 around for deer, but why on earth would I ever want to do so? I admit I am fortunate to be able to fairly regularly use those rifles for the game for which they were created. But hunting a deer is defined, at least in my mind, by a perfectly proportioned caliber. My Rigby Highlander .275 is my current favorite, but there are several 6.5’s and .270’s always waiting in the wings. And for me, the 6.5x57 has always seemed the perfect rifle for Roe deer.

 

[Hoss Delgado]

Curious where you accomplish that?

All my roe deer were taken in Germany and Austria (I would guess fifty or sixty over the years) where considerable effort was made to insure that all deer taken carefully fit the annual shooting plan. Obviously, a rifle was imperative in such selective shooting. Not sure how that could have been accomplished with bird shot from a shotgun. In fact, I am pretty sure it isn’t legal in those countries.

Sweden , Red Leg. Hunting roe deer with dogs and a shotgun is very popular in Sweden. I wrote about this in detail in a thread on the shotgun forums. It's only allowed certain times of the year though. They don't use buckshot there and you aren't legally allowed to hunt with slugs from a double barrel.

 

[Red Leg]

Sweden , Red Leg. Hunting roe deer with dogs and a shotgun is very popular in Sweden. I wrote about this in detail in a thread on the shotgun forums. It's only allowed certain times of the year though. They don't use buckshot there and you aren't legally allowed to hunt with slugs from a double barrel.

Thanks

 

[Hoss Delgado]

Thanks

I'm curious . You've NEVER hunted roe deer with shotguns ?! You seem like a guy who tries a lot of unique hunting experiences . You should try it someday. I will be going , this November . I think you will enjoy it a lot . Hunting roe deer with shotguns over dogs is good fun . #1 or #3 shot is invariably used

 

[Red Leg]

I'm curious . You've NEVER hunted roe deer with shotguns ?! You seem like a guy who tries a lot of unique hunting experiences . You should try it someday. I will be going , this November . I think you will enjoy it a lot . Hunting roe deer with shotguns over dogs is good fun . #1 or #3 shot is invariably used

Don't much like hunting deer over dogs period. Grew up in Southeast Louisiana where it was traditional and have also gone on a few hunts in the South Carolina Low Country and Florida Panhandle. It is a great way to kill "a deer". It is a pretty awful way to kill a specific deer. It has also been my experience that a number of deer hit by shot of any size go unfound - however good the dogs are. As I have gotten older, I have pretty much lost interest in simply killing things (other than pigeons at a pigeon shoot - feathered rats). I spend a lot of time and resources hunting older interesting animals. I did a driven shoot for wild boar on a European estate - that of course is done with rifles. But the vast majority of the boar there are bred and released for that sort of thing - interesting - maybe a bit exciting - but essentially a shooting exercise. A driven hunt in Germany or Austria on an unfenced Revier is a different thing entirely. There the boar are truly wild - slugs or rifles are legal. Hence the popularity of drillings where the next drive may produce a hare, a pheasant, or a 300 lb. boar. Roe and stag are rarely taken on such hunts - not because they aren't seen - but because the shooting plan is of such importance. For similar reasons, chasing elk (moose) in Scandinavia with dogs has had no interest for me either.

 

[Red Leg]

And that probably sounds overly critical of driven hunts for deer. I have no issue with anyone who enjoys it. In the South it is a series of annual multi-generational social events with enormous tradition. That aspect, I truly love and respect. Just for me, at this point in my hunting life, it is simply not how I care to hunt for deer.