Picatinny scope base on a Win model 70

[Sketchy1973]

If I mount a Tally one piece Picatinny scope base, on a Winchester Model 70 Safari Express. Will I be able to still use the iron sights? I want options of being able to switch out my optics, or shoot iron sights.

 

[450 Dakota]

With a full size rail I don‘t think so. They sit up a little high. Talley makes a 2 piece picatinny now that looks like it would work. Give them a call. They have always been helpful when I have called them. Usually good about returns as well.

 

[JimP]

You'll have to get one and then just sit it on top of the receiver and see if you can still use the open sights.

While it isn't a Tallay I just installed one on a muzzle loader and even with it in place I can still use the open sights if I remove the scope.

 

[Joker12]

Check the XS sights website. The Weaver backup ghost ring looks like what you are looking for.

 

[Sketchy1973]

Check the XS sights website. The Weaver backup ghost ring looks like what you are looking for.

Actually that's the last thing I'd do. The factory Safari Express are excellent.

 

[Sketchy1973]

You'll have to get one and then just sit it on top of the receiver and see if you can still use the open sights.

While it isn't a Tallay I just installed one on a muzzle loader and even with it in place I can still use the open sights if I remove the scope.

I'll just have to order one and see what happens. I have an older but new Leupold VX-3 1.75-6 that I want to use on this rifle. I just want to be able to use the factory iron if something goes wrong. Or ever switch it up and put on a red dot.

 

[zephyr]

Why a Rail??
When regular bases will do.. Unless your scope's body is too short
Rails can get in the way of loading

 

[JimP]

I'll just have to order one and see what happens. I have an older but new Leupold VX-3 1.75-6 that I want to use on this rifle. I just want to be able to use the factory iron if something goes wrong. Or ever switch it up and put on a red dot.

Why not just use quick detachable scope rings? You may not be able to get them for the Piciny mount.

 

[Sketchy1973]

Why not just use quick detachable scope rings? You may not be able to get them for the Piciny mount.

I can get quick detachable rings all day long that will fit Picatinny scope base. I just want to be able to see my iron sights if I take off my scope. Or I can use a red dot.

 

[Sketchy1973]

With a full size rail I don‘t think so. They sit up a little high. Talley makes a 2 piece picatinny now that looks like it would work. Give them a call. They have always been helpful when I have called them. Usually good about returns as well.

450 Dakota. I think your're spot on with Talley 2 piece bases. The forward mount should give me enough slots to fit my Leupold Delta Point pro reflex sight if I want to. That would give me all 3 sight options that I want

 

[Wyfox]

The Warne 2 piece pic base is pretty low too

 

[Graham Hunter]

If I mount a Tally one piece Picatinny scope base, on a Winchester Model 70 Safari Express. Will I be able to still use the iron sights? I want options of being able to switch out my optics, or shoot iron sights.

NO

 

[Laniarius]

I can see the irons no problem over Warne two-piece Weaver mounts on my Model 70 Safari.

I don't know why a one piece rail would be higher, unless it was to add 20 moa or whatever. But it sounds like maybe they are from what others a saying.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Why a Rail??
When regular bases will do.. Unless your scope's body is too short
Rails can get in the way of loading

I have one-piece semi-rails on my 30-06 Springfield and 98 Mauser 404 Jeffery. Both have cutouts for top loading magazine. The rail on the Springfield is exactly the same height as Weaver 2-piece bases. I can see iron sights over both easily when the scope is detached. And both guns wear Winchester Safari Express iron sights (1990s edition).
98 Mauser

Springfield 03A3

Both rifles load easily and cycle flawlessly.

 

[Sketchy1973]

I have one-piece semi-rails on my 30-06 Springfield and 98 Mauser 404 Jeffery. Both have cutouts for top loading magazine. The rail on the Springfield is exactly the same height as Weaver 2-piece bases. I can see iron sights over both easily when the scope is detached. And both guns wear Winchester Safari Express iron sights (1990s edition).
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Both rifles load easily and cycle flawlessly.

Nice rifles

 

[Sketchy1973]

I ordered up a set of Leupold 2 piece cross slot steel bases, and their Delta Point Pro cross slot red dot mount. I'll be ordering up their rings later. I'm still not sure if I'm going to mount my Vx-3 1.75-6 yet.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I ordered up a set of Leupold 2 piece cross slot steel bases, and their Delta Point Pro cross slot red dot mount. I'll be ordering up their rings later. I'm still not sure if I'm going to mount my Vx-3 1.75-6 yet.

That Leopold scope appears to have a fairly long tube. You should be okay with two-piece bases. I had to go with semi-rail on the Springfield because the Nikon 3-9x I bought had a short tube. At first I had extended ring on front with two piece bases but when I added optional iron sights, I wanted quick detach rings and nobody makes them extended. So it was either switch to a rail or a different scope or put up with improper eye relief with scope too far forward ( = poor acquisition and/or messed up field of view). Note where the front ring is located: almost touching the bell for objective lens. Full field of view just makes it. The forward ring is locked into the last ring slot available in the base before loading cutout. That Nikon scope is a dandy but tube is very short. The discontinued very low Weaver 1-piece base on my 98 Mauser has only two ring slots. Short tube scopes could be a problem as having only two slots on the rail limits options for ring placement. But the low power Bushnell I selected has no objective lens bell so I knew I had nothing to worry about. Eye relief would be dictated by my needs not the base(s) and rings.

 

[Sketchy1973]

That Leopold scope appears to have a fairly long tube. You should be okay with two-piece bases. I had to go with semi-rail on the Springfield because the Nikon 3-9x I bought had a short tube. At first I had extended ring on front with two piece bases but when I added optional iron sights, I wanted quick detach rings and nobody makes them extended. So it was either switch to a rail or a different scope or put up with improper eye relief with scope too far forward ( = poor acquisition and/or messed up field of view). Note where the front ring is located: almost touching the bell for objective lens. Full field of view just makes it. The forward ring is locked into the last ring slot available in the base before loading cutout. That Nikon scope is a dandy but tube is very short. The discontinued very low Weaver 1-piece base on my 98 Mauser has only two ring slots. Short tube scopes could be a problem as having only two slots on the rail limits options for ring placement. But the low power Bushnell I selected has no objective lens bell so I knew I had nothing to worry about. Eye relief would be dictated by my needs not the base(s) and rings.

The forward base can be orientated for shorter scope tubes. I'll post some pics once I get it set up.

 

[Laniarius]

Yes, at least for the Model 70 (I don’t know if they make one that would fit your Mauser 98) Warne offers an extended front base that can be oriented so that it sticks partly over the loading port, to help get that front ring a bit farther back.