South Africa president seeks approval to take white owned land

[Houlainol]

http://www.worldtribune.com/south-a...ion-of-white-owned-land-without-compensation/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...confiscation-white-land-without-compensation/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...ricas-president-calls-confiscation-white-land

I searched on here for this subject and found nothing.

Zim has already taken white land, Namibia is starting to take farms progressing from the willing seller willing buyer setup, and now the RSA president is calling on black politicians to stand together to change the constitution to allow the government to take white owned land. The RSA constitution states it takes 2/3 rds to change the constitution and the article stated that if the vote followed racial lines it will pass. One article I read stated over 85% of the population supports the government taking white owned land.

I am not African. I have never even been to Africa. I have studied extensively the end of colonial Africa and the transition to the current post "colonial" Africa. The few white South Africans I know in the US already consider the whole country lost and unable to be repaired.

To be honest these news reports from last month have pushed me to get my first trip to Africa in the books because I am not sure hunting by Americans (or any whites for that matter) will be allowed for much longer.

I know Zim is a total disaster. Mugabe threatening to take over the professional hunting in Zim? Namibia I am not really sure of the situation on the ground but the president is calling for land grabs. I knew RSA was a mess but if they change the constitution to be able to take white land it begs the question...... what is the future hunting in Africa?

For you Africans on africahunting.com can you comment on the political climate of being in the hunting business and being white?

 

[BRICKBURN]

https://www.africahunting.com/threa...-africa-and-want-to-invest.37586/#post-350266

 

[Brent in Az]

If that happened, how long would it take before South Africa goes bankrupt? It is mind blowing, how these anti-white, black leaders have no grasp for a long term future of the country. Only the "Here and now". At some point they start asking the rest of the world for money.

 

[Erny]

Wow, that's pretty scary, and I don't live or own land in RSA.

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

You would think that most have learnt not to trust the media.

 

[Trakehner]

Remember, they're taking more than land, they're torturing/raping/killing Whites (Boers, Farmers etc.) South Africa and Rhodesia are in full genocide against whites. Obscene how the USA will take thousands of Somalis/muslims with nothing to offer but won't accept Afrikaners or Rhodesians. Maybe the current government will support people with the same values and culture as the West.

I remember when Rhodesia and South Africa were great places to visit and hunt...civilized bread baskets of Africa...and how American liberal politicians pushed to destroy these countries and turn them into 1 man/1 vote/1 time (which was warned would happen by Butelezi to DeKlerk). Sad what damage weak and evil politicians can cause.

 

[Brent in Az]

Saw an article about an older couple that were tortured and killed on their remote farm in SA. what was done to them was horrific.

 

[Houlainol]

You would think that most have learnt not to trust the media.

So you are saying these news stories are false? Im not picking a fight.

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

So you are saying these news stories are false? Im not picking a fight.

Not false, sensationalised. While in the USA for our marketing tour this year, I made the crucial mistake of trying to keep up with news back home. All I got, was local(USA) reporting on what was happening in South Africa. I was expecting a Civil war when I got back, and chaos on the streets. That's what the media portrayed it to be.
Got back to be totally SHOCKED that everything was running as normal.

When you live in South Africa, you learn to take all politics reported on, and try and figure out what it's a smokescreen for. What are they trying to diverge the attention from?

It's business as usual for me.

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

When you live in South Africa, you learn to take all politics reported on, and try and figure out what it's a smokescreen for. What are they trying to diverge the attention from?

When you live in the USA, you learn to take all politics reported on, and try and figure out what it's a smokescreen for. What are they trying to diverge the attention from?

 

[Houlainol]

Oh the media in the US is totally biased to a left leaning perspective but it is hard to imagine that attempting to change the constitution is a smokescreen.

Either Zuma is or he isn't. It's that simple. I'm pretty certain the ANC would consider taking white owned land a great acomplishment. The same thing has been happening in Zim for years and the president of Namibia has stated the same thing.

That is not conjecture. The namibian president said it himself in a tweet.

I would consider from afar that the situation in all of southern Africa to be worsening. It looks to me that whites in southern Africa have no representation or protection on the government level. I severely doubt anyone will come to their aid.

The South Africans I know believe that all is lost. I hope things improve but it seems persecution will only increase

 

[AlphaHunter]

This is from one of the South African news paper,

"White people must not think the EFF has forgotten about the land issue, said EFF leader Julius Malema on 20 April 2016 in a packed hall of the University of Pretoria’s Mamelodi Campus.

“The white minority claps hands while the EFF takes President (Jacob) Zuma over the coals and thinks we have forgotten that black people want the land returned. But we have not. They are next.”

This statement by Malema confirms the Front National’s argument on two issues: The white man who still votes for the DA, while the DA forms coalitions with the EFF, should not think that their adopted nephews will overlook them. Also, our position non participation in the public marches against Zuma together with the EFF. Julius uses the whites with their posters simply as useful idiots – when he’s finished with Zuma, those same fellow protesters are next to his list.

EFF supporters were invited by bus loads to a campus for a memorial ceremony for anti-apartheid activist Solomon Mahlangu, who was hanged in 1979. When Malema arrived after 12:00, the hall was so full that people had to sit on the floor.

Floyd Shivambu, deputy president of the EFF, introduced Malema as “the next president of South Africa.”

“We stopped Nkandla, and the Guptas were gone. Now we are going to retrieve our country,” Maidstone Malema to loud applause.

“All the beautiful buildings in this country were built by black people without being paid. It also belongs to us. We are going to take the land with everything in it whether they (white people) like it or not.”

“But Zuma is not our enemy. Zuma stands between us and our enemy, the white man.”

“It is the white man who killed Solomon Mahlangu, and although we must focus on reconciliation, we cannot be friends with white people.”

He said white people should stop crying because black people are the actual victims.

“No white man came here with the land.”

Front National says again: Stop looking at Julius Malema as a dumbhead and a non-entity. The tremendous growth of the EFF and the radical pronouncements he makes attract more and more people to his party. 2019’s election may only cause him to play a much, much bigger role in South African politics than now, at the expense of the already shaky DA.

We need to make every effort to secure ourselves, get involved with community forums and mobilize ourselves politely to try and resolve self-determination as soon as possible. A vote for the DA and taking to streets with the EFF will not give us much more mercy or time. We also see that one complaint after another is taken to the Human Rights Commission and the Court against Malema, its like the water off a duck’s back. Malema and his EFF are not only a threat to ANC and Jacob Zuma, but he is also a significant threat to EVERY white in South Africa. Even those who join hands and take to the streets. We can no longer deny it."

Just scary...and I live on a farm...

 

[lcq]

When you live in Canada, you learn to take all politics reported on, and try and figure out what it's a smokescreen for. What are they trying to diverge the attention from?

 

[Houlainol]

Maybe a smokescreen for an issue in district 9?

On a serious note I see no way this is not a real threat. I get not wanting it to be real but to think this is some fake ploy to divert attention from something else seems illogical.

 

[AlphaHunter]

Maybe a smokescreen for an issue in district 9?

On a serious note I see no way this is not a real threat. I get not wanting it to be real but to think this is some fake ploy to divert attention from something else seems illogical.

Only in my area, 5 farm attacks this month with 3 fatalities.

 

[lcq]

Only in my area, 5 farm attacks this month with 3 fatalities.

the government says it is working to stop the murders buy in reality they are doing nothing

 

[BRICKBURN]

You would think that most have learnt not to trust the media.

No way! You have to trust the internet, don't you?.

Oxford Study
Bakamo said on Wednesday that 19.2 percent of links shared by users of social media in France in the past six months pertained to articles that did not “adhere to journalistic standards” and that expressed “radical opinions … to craft a disruptive narrative”.


It said a further 5 percent related to “narratives [that were] often mythical, almost theological in nature” or discussed “conspiracy theories”.

https://euobserver.com/elections/137636

 

[Brent in Az]

If you believe the American lamestream media, Donald Trump is responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened,including the ice age, and the extinction of the Dinosaurs. The media across the globe has evolved into nothing but a big propaganda machine.

 

[BRICKBURN]

The election promises of the various parties in South Africa.

http://speakupmzansi.org.za/election-promises/

 

[BRICKBURN]

ANC rejects Zuma's radical land reform plan
SIBONGAKONKE SHOBA and QAANITAH HUNTER | 2017-03-13

The ANC has proposed a watered-down approach to land reform, despite President Jacob Zuma's recent call for land expropriation without compensation to be prioritised.

The ANC's policy discussion on economic transformation, which formed part of the discussion documents released to the public yesterday, does not call for the expropriation of land without compensation.

Instead, the document proposes that the government should do away with paying "premium" prices when purchasing land for reform and proposes "just and equitable" compensation.

The party's attitude to land reform approach is expected to be a hotly contested topic at the ANC's policy conference, set to take place in June.

Zuma's backers have adopted radical economic transformation as their campaign theme in a bid to deliver former AU Commission chairman Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma to the highest office.

The divisions are likely to play out at the policy conference in Johannesburg when Zuma's supporters are expected to push that land expropriation without compensation be adopted as ANC - and therefore government - policy. Zuma recently broke ranks with his party's caucus in parliament when he suggested ANC MPs should have voted in favour of an EFF motion to amend section 25 of the constitution to allow for the expropriation of land without compensation.

In January the Sunday Times reported that Zuma told an ANC policy workshop that the party's policy proposals were not radical enough and ordered that the documents be rewritten.

Enoch Godongwana, head of the ANC NEC's subcommittee on economic transformation, which drafted the document, admitted that his party was divided on the matter.

"People have got different viewpoints on these matters. Obviously, there is going to be contestation," he said yesterday.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2017/03/13/ANC-rejects-Zumas-radical-land-reform-plan