Toyota 70 series

[Red Leg]

Everywhere I go in the world I ride in and hear the praises for the F70 series Toyota Land Cruiser - that is except in the US. Does anyone know if it is possible to get one here?

 

[sestoppelman]

I have asked a few PH's about this and they all say no way, wont happen. Its their opinion that our Big 3 automakers put the clamps on Congress and said they dont want the competition. Dont know for sure if thats true, there may be more to it than that, but it would not surprise me overly much if it was true.

 

[Red Leg]

Maybe, but I can't imagine what Detroit product it would compete against. The closest similar utility vehicle would be the jeep four-door but it is really a different size class. And no one has a problem allowing them to compete the high-end Land Cruiser against the Escalade, Expedition, etc. I would buy one in a second.

 

[bellero]

They were available in Canada under the name Landcruiser BJ 70 in the 80's and early 90's and they came with a left hand side steering wheel. Quite rare to find in good condition nowadays but they're still out there.

 

[bellero]

You can always deal with an importer to get one in Canada or the US.

Luxury Imports - Importing the finest in Exotic Land Cruisers

 

[bluey]

hey fellas what the fuel consumption on these beefy rear end big ass utes you guys love so much ?

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

hey fellas what the fuel consumption on these beefy rear end big ass utes you guys love so much ?

I had a Toyota Tacoma similar to the one in the other thread. Great truck until you put a load on the bumper. The 6 cylinder gas motor just couldn't handle it going up a steep hill. I now have Toyota Tundra, 1/2 ton truck. It has no problem towing.

To answer your question, it's fuel mileage is only slightly less than the Tacoma when in town, to the point of unnoticeable. When towing all the crap I take to elk camp, the Tundar is MUCH better and it doesn't take an extra hour to get to camp.

You have to remember out west we may be towing horses, 4 wheelers, or a camper up steep terrain. A gasoline 6 cylinder just doesn't cut it.

 

[bluey]

yea thats the hilux weak piont to phill it gets around 10.1 kms to the litre until you use the tow bar then its back to 7.5 kms to the litre
but its only a 4 cyl diesel 3 litre turbo its to low geared and has to use revs in low gears . but it goes anywhere .
l had a little mazda bravo 2.7 litre petrol .that thing was awesome that used to get me where no one would go .
but bloody hopeless at towing . worst thing l ever did was give it the kids as a paddock bomb .
the old land cruiser is a bit of an icon down here but ,if l was going to up grade the lux l would get a Nissan patrol .

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

yea thats the hilux weak piont to phill it gets around 10.1 kms to the litre until you use the tow bar then its back to 7.5 kms to the litre
but its only a 4 cyl diesel 3 litre turbo its to low geared and has to use revs in low gears . but it goes anywhere .
l had a little mazda bravo 2.7 litre petrol .that thing was awesome that used to get me where no one would go .
but bloody hopeless at towing . worst thing l ever did was give it the kids as a paddock bomb .
the old land cruiser is a bit of an icon down here but ,if l was going to up grade the lux l would get a Nissan patrol .

Very few places my full size Tundra can't go that a Tacoma could. The 6 cylinder in the Tacoma was fine for towing on relatively flat ground. It's about 3 hours to elk camp from home. We gain something on the order of 6000 feet of elevation, around 2500 or so the last 30 miles. That last 30 miles you could watch the fuel needle falling.

The 6 cylinder had the same problem, you had to downshift so much to get enough torque to pull the hill at a reasonable speed. In town, it only got 1-2 miles per gallon better. In the end the only advantage then was it is a much less expensive truck.

But for my family the Tundra is also our family vehicle. Monday thru Friday my wife drives it, about 1.5 miles to her work. I drive the Camry, now with 113,000 miles on it to my job which is 22 miles away.

 

[Goon]

70 series are bloody good trucks. Love them. But here in Nz man there expensive!!! What are prices like in other parts? Near $70,000 nzd for one depending on model.

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

hey fellas what the fuel consumption on these beefy rear end big ass utes you guys love so much ?

Who cares. They look good.

 

[bluey]

Who cares. They look good.

ya think????

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

In my professional opinion, anything that looks good....is expensive.

 

[richteb]

Not really sure why you guys from the US would even want a Landcruiser considering that they are pretty ordinary compared to some of the trucks you have in US. This would be especially the case when towing. Also the Landcruiser would not have anywhere near the power compared to 4wd trucks in the US. The new Landcruiser 70 series 4.5 lt V8 two door ute start at around $65K, the Landcruiser 200 series wagon would be closer to $70k. Both these vehicles use around 12-14 litres to 100km. If towing heavy loads like say large caravan probably more like 16 litres per 100km. With diesel around $1.63 AU per litre they are not cheap vehicles to run. Even a crappy Hilux SR5 twin cabs are almost $50k and they are a 4cyl. We get pretty ripped off here in Australia when it comes to cars. Most cars from the US are way to expensive most like due to the steering conversion that is needed.

 

[bluey]

id choose my crappy hilux , any day over them big yank tanks ,
I agree that the 200 series chews the juice ,mate .
and its a bit to flash for me .when my wife bought the wagon it reminded of the big utes every body had when we went to Canada .
don't know where your buying your fuel from richteb , but it must be a long ways from anywhere.

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

Not really sure why you guys from the US would even want a Landcruiser considering that they are pretty ordinary compared to some of the trucks you have in US. This would be especially the case when towing. Also the Landcruiser would not have anywhere near the power compared to 4wd trucks in the US. The new Landcruiser 70 series 4.5 lt V8 two door ute start at around $65K, the Landcruiser 200 series wagon would be closer to $70k. Both these vehicles use around 12-14 litres to 100km. If towing heavy loads like say large caravan probably more like 16 litres per 100km. With diesel around $1.63 AU per litre they are not cheap vehicles to run. Even a crappy Hilux SR5 twin cabs are almost $50k and they are a 4cyl. We get pretty ripped off here in Australia when it comes to cars. Most cars from the US are way to expensive most like due to the steering conversion that is needed.

Richteb, if we are talking in hunting terms, there is just no way that ordinary trucks keep up with 250 days of hunting per year, year in and year out. Yes, maybe the first 1.5 years, when everything is still new. With a Land Cruiser, it's not as much about what engine is under the body, but more about the body that surrounds the engine.
We need to compare apples with apples. A Land Cruiser is built for a purpose. Whether it's hunting 250 days a year, hitching the plough behind the Cruiser, because the tractor is broken, whatever. They build them simple, no electronics for a reason. Less fancy, the less chance of something that can go wrong.
It's like comparing a A/T tyre with a mud terrain. The A/T is built for a little bit of this and a little bit of that. The mud-terrain, has a purpose and can do what the A/T does, and more.

 

[PeteG]

The new Landcruiser 70 series 4.5 lt V8 two door ute start at around $65K, the Landcruiser 200 series wagon would be closer to $70k. .

You think you're getting ripped off, last time i checked the 200 series was priced at over $200k here!

My Hilux 3.5years old, just north of $60k, there were a few addons, but the base model was nearly $55k.

 

[bluey]

the sahara is way over priced down here to pete , but not that crazy .
my lux is 2012 model that was 53, no tray or bull bar.

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

Come now fellas. Let's not start comparing who's government steals the most from their consumers. Surely South Africa will win that one hands down...
Have to go and hunt now. Talk in a week.

 

[bluey]

hunt well ,mate .