WARNING: Don’t use this Ammo site!

[Lee M]

Don’t use this site. barrelammodepot dot com. I was searching for gunpowder and found varget and cfe223 available. Also imr4064. Seemed unusual. I Tried to checkout and it said $100 min. As i can’t find these powders anywhere and a $100 min required i searched online and read it is a scam. They even have am IM where you can communicate with someone. I was going back and forth for 15 mins. When i replied i read they are a scam the responses stopped. The stories i read online said when checking out they don’t except credit cards only Venmo and other options (which can’t be tracked or refunded). Fortunately i didn’t go down the rabbit hole. If anyone has a source of these powders please let me know. Thx. Hoping to save an AH member from getting ripped off !

 

[R.M.C.]

Thanks for the heads up!!!

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

Gracias for the warning!

 

[thi9elsp]

Thanks for getting the word out.

 

[cajunchefray]

Thanks for the "watch out". I found CF 223 on GB, but at over $300 per 8 pounds I passed, I did find 8# of Unique, and gritted my teeth and paid around $300, delivered but I figure that will last me for a few years.

 

[sgt_zim]

Don’t use this site. barrelammodepot dot com. I was searching for gunpowder and found varget and cfe223 available. Also imr4064. Seemed unusual. I Tried to checkout and it said $100 min. As i can’t find these powders anywhere and a $100 min required i searched online and read it is a scam. They even have am IM where you can communicate with someone. I was going back and forth for 15 mins. When i replied i read they are a scam the responses stopped. The stories i read online said when checking out they don’t except credit cards only Venmo and other options (which can’t be tracked or refunded). Fortunately i didn’t go down the rabbit hole. If anyone has a source of these powders please let me know. Thx. Hoping to save an AH member from getting ripped off !

a lot of those Hodgdon/ADI powders are unobtanium. The big 3 that everybody is short of are Varget, H1000, H4350.

I have moved to alternate powders for 2 of those (never used H1000) - Win748 is very close to CFE223, without the carbon fouling eliminator CFE223 is named for. In Hornady (for 1), a lot of times there is a corresponding 2000MR load alongside a CFE223 load.

So far, I've only used 2000MR for my 9.3x62, velocities are better than published. but like Big Game, it seems to prefer a pretty full case, like 95% or more.

 

[PARA45]

Thanks for letting us know. Seems like there are a lot of scams going around. Be extra vigilant when shopping on line.

 

[cpr0312]

Thanks for the valuable PSA!

 

[Hogpatrol]

If the site does not accept credit cards, wants paypal or other direct fund transfer protocol, DO NOT make a purchase. There are more of these scams on the web than you can shake a stick at.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

a lot of those Hodgdon/ADI powders are unobtanium. The big 3 that everybody is short of are Varget, H1000, H4350.

I have moved to alternate powders for 2 of those (never used H1000) - Win748 is very close to CFE223, without the carbon fouling eliminator CFE223 is named for. In Hornady (for 1), a lot of times there is a corresponding 2000MR load alongside a CFE223 load.

So far, I've only used 2000MR for my 9.3x62, velocities are better than published. but like Big Game, it seems to prefer a pretty full case, like 95% or more.

@sgt zim
I don't like correcting you but CFE stands for copper fouling eliminator, that's why I very rarely have to clean the rifles I use it in as
it does a great job on keeping copper fouling at bay.
@cajunchefray If'n I could get CFE223 at $300 for an 8 pound jug in Australia I would jump at it.
The last time I bought an 8kg bottle of 2208/varget I paid $360 AUD about 270 dollars US.
CFE223 in Australia is about as available as rocking horse shit since the stopped importing it.
Bob

 

[sgt_zim]

hmmm....i'm pretty sure we both said the same thing.

Win748 is very close to CFE223, without the carbon fouling eliminator CFE223 is named for

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

hmmm....i'm pretty sure we both said the same thing.

@sgt_zim you are saying Carbon and @Bob Nelson 35Whelen is saying Copper. (which might only occur in the 35 Whelen), but I think Bob got it right.

 

[sgt_zim]

@sgt_zim you are saying Carbon and @Bob Nelson 35Whelen is saying Copper. (which might only occur in the 35 Whelen), but I think Bob got it right.

oh crap. I know that. No idea why I typed carbon.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

oh crap. I know that. No idea why I typed carbon.

@sgt zim
You must have been having a senior moment mate.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

@sgt_zim you are saying Carbon and @Bob Nelson 35Whelen is saying Copper. (which might only occur in the 35 Whelen), but I think Bob got it right.

@375 Ruger Fan
Even after 150 shots in the Whelen and about double that in the son's 308 both still show no signs of copper fouling.
Bob

 

[sgt_zim]

@375 Ruger Fan
Even after 150 shots in the Whelen and about double that in the son's 308 both still show no signs of copper fouling.
Bob

Last couple years, I have typed words into sentences that just don't make any sense, or will omit a few words between thoughts. I'm only 52, BTW. Not just here, but when I compose emails at work or work on reports, I go back and proof and i'm like "what the AF was I thinking when I typed that???"

 

[ChrisG]

If I recall correctly, I believe varget is manufactured in Australia and getting it to the U.S. for hodgdon to relabel and re-sell has been a bit of a problem of late. So I wouldnt expect to see it for a while unless you want to pay $120 a pound for it from "Johnny's ripoff loading bench" on gunbroker.

 

[TNDave]

Was in LGS today and they had 4 pounds of CFE223, several other hodgdon and IMR powders. I grabbed 2 pounds of the CFE223 for $38 pound. They also had a few primers for $9.99/100, I left those on the shelf…

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Was in LGS today and they had 4 pounds of CFE223, several other hodgdon and IMR powders. I grabbed 2 pounds of the CFE223 for $38 pound. They also had a few primers for $9.99/100, I left those on the shelf…

TNDave
I would have got hold of more than 2 pounds of cfe223.
Bob