A very ugly high end slug gun

[HankBuck]

I replaced the wood. As great as they were/are, the A-5 had two design flaws that neither John nor Val Browning fixed, and both were wood related. The barrel recoils during cycling but the barrel ring around the magazine that guides it slams into the top end of fore end at the end of the cycle. The wood invariably breaks down from constant pounding. At the other end the stock is held on by a tang screw through the pistol grip. The wood is prone to cracking through the thinnest part of the stock. Remington fixed both issues with their 11-48, which replaced their A-5 clone Model 11. The 11-48 stock is attached by a bolt at the end of the action spring tube and a metal tube lines the fore end channel so the magazine cap absorbs the pounding of returning barrel ring.

Interesting regarding the wood cracking on the A5, I don’t recall that ever happening to my friends even after 25 years and 1000s of high brass rounds thru it. My Rem 1148 had about the same round count and I got some stock cracking in the mid 90s. We both used to “slather” oil on our guns when cleaning believing that “more is better”....I’d guess that contributed to my wood stock splitting ?? I really liked those old recoil operated auto’s for foul weather reliability...and we later noted that when his Brother got a New rem 1100 (1977) that it “looked better” then both our guns —- but jammed constantly and any “weather” turned it into a Single Shot Jammomatic.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Thanks Bob, for details on Australia and now I know where I can go for late season “everything” - it’s a bit of a drive from VA but sounds worth it.

@HankBuck
No problems mate. Put some Italian racing air in your tires makes it lighter for those water crossings, fit a long range fuel tank and you'll be fine for the drive. Seeing its a long drive bring a couple of buddies to share the driving.
I'll have the Bundy and Vegemite sandwiches read when you arrive.
Bob

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Interesting regarding the wood cracking on the A5, I don’t recall that ever happening to my friends even after 25 years and 1000s of high brass rounds thru it. My Rem 1148 had about the same round count and I got some stock cracking in the mid 90s. We both used to “slather” oil on our guns when cleaning believing that “more is better”....I’d guess that contributed to my wood stock splitting ?? I really liked those old recoil operated auto’s for foul weather reliability...and we later noted that when his Brother got a New rem 1100 (1977) that it “looked better” then both our guns —- but jammed constantly and any “weather” turned it into a Single Shot Jammomatic.

Yep. Those early 1100s were good for maybe two boxes at the range before they started gagging. Very comfortable to shoot though. Heavy as hell and gas operated = almost no felt recoil. My A-5 magnum with 31" barrel is almost as heavy even wearing plastic. Also very comfortable to shoot. Long recoil action was always easy on felt recoil. Most guys just couldn't get used to the "double shuffle" of the gun jumping back and then forward. Follow up shots are a bit slower, but fast follow up shots usually = funding ammo companies. I'm sure all the double gunners on here agree.

 

[rookhawk]

to the top. Just noticed it still in the gun cabinet.

 

[IvW]

And here I thought that you had a old customized Marlin Goose Gun.

I still regret not buying a Marlin goose gun 3" bolt action that had an insanely long barrel.....

 

[Altitude sickness]

Do you have any test targets at 200-300 yards?

 

[HankBuck]

I still regret not buying a Marlin goose gun 3" bolt action that had an insanely long barrel.....

IvW, that Marlin would be a top contender for “ugliest gun ever” and also about as slow getting that 2nd or 3rd shot off as reloading s Single Shot

 

[IvW]

IvW, that Marlin would be a top contender for “ugliest gun ever” and also about as slow getting that 2nd or 3rd shot off as reloading s Single Shot

Still a very cool rifle when arriving at the goose hunting areas.....

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I still regret not buying a Marlin goose gun 3" bolt action that had an insanely long barrel.....

@IvW
I have a mosberg bot gun with a 22 inch modified choke barrel. Insanely accurate with 3 inch sold slugs ( with a red dot it put 3 slugs into a 3 inch circle at 100 yards and cuts clover leafs at 50)but being light weight it really gets your attention when you touch it off from the bench. Fine in the field tho.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

IvW, that Marlin would be a top contender for “ugliest gun ever” and also about as slow getting that 2nd or 3rd shot off as reloading s Single Shot

@HankBuck
I don't know about slow. I shot field clays with my mosberg bolt action shotgun.
2 clays rolled along the ground to simulate running rabbits at 25 to 30 yards was no problem at all. Just need to have plenty of practice with bolt action guns then they can be surprisingly fast.
I did get a couple of laughs when I stood on the stand with the bolt gun but that changed when the shooting started.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

My old mosberg maverick 12 bore bolt gun before the red dot was attached.
Ugly as all get out, light as but a bucket full of fun.
Bob

 

[Ontario Hunter]

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My old mosberg maverick 12 bore bolt gun before the red dot was attached.
Ugly as all get out, light as but a bucket full of fun.
Bob

Ah, a Schnable booger on the end of a plastic stock! That makes it classy, eh?

 

[Daniel Cary]

Southern, Lower MI used to be Zoned Shotgun (thought it still was/someone mentioned straight wall Cases) idk.

I like those Bolt Shotguns .. trying to steer Avid Hunters of all kinds to AH. I'll ask some colleagues, etc.

 

[HankBuck]

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My old mosberg maverick 12 bore bolt gun before the red dot was attached.
Ugly as all get out, light as but a bucket full of fun.
Bob

Wow Bob, just when I thought a Mossberg could Not get any uglier - you show one with a Plastic Stock !!! Very rare to see a gun with No forum and No function, assuming it’s trade in value is 1/2 box of 12 ga shells? Although I must admit that I’ve never fired one - might be fun, and the long barrel would help when your boat engine breaks down and you need a “paddle” to get back to the dock !

 

[Hunt anything]

One of these days I’m going to dig out my Western Field bolt action .410 shotgun. Talk about UGLY, it was my grandfather’s and I don’t know how many limits of dove, squirrel and other small game I shot with that thing I even shot my first duck with it when I was 7 or 8 years old.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Southern, Lower MI used to be Zoned Shotgun (thought it still was/someone mentioned straight wall Cases) idk.

I like those Bolt Shotguns .. trying to steer Avid Hunters of all kinds to AH. I'll ask some colleagues, etc.

@Daniel Cary
A shotgun loaded with slugs is a straight walled case.
Ha ha ha ha
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Wow Bob, just when I thought a Mossberg could Not get any uglier - you show one with a Plastic Stock !!! Very rare to see a gun with No forum and No function, assuming it’s trade in value is 1/2 box of 12 ga shells? Although I must admit that I’ve never fired one - might be fun, and the long barrel would help when your boat engine breaks down and you need a “paddle” to get back to the dock !

@HankBuck
It might be as ugly as a hat full of cats arses and that fancy schnabel forend makes it look like a pig with lipstick BUT it's accurate with slugs and fairly quick to operate plus holds 2 in the mag and one in the chamber. Trade in value is probably less than half a box of shells but that doesn't matter. It does the job it's needed to do and doesn't need a lot of care. A bore snake, a bit of oil and soapy water to wash the stock. Easy as.My son has now claimed it for his close in pig gun.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Wow Bob, just when I thought a Mossberg could Not get any uglier - you show one with a Plastic Stock !!! Very rare to see a gun with No forum and No function, assuming it’s trade in value is 1/2 box of 12 ga shells? Although I must admit that I’ve never fired one - might be fun, and the long barrel would help when your boat engine breaks down and you need a “paddle” to get back to the dock !

@HankBuck
The barrel is only 22 inches with a modified choke.
Bob

 

[BeeMaa]

I think this thread has taken a bit of a turn in the direction of "show me your ugly shotgun" when our friend @rookhawk is really just trying to sell his. I know he appreciates you keeping this post at the top of the heap, but someone should really make an offer on this one.

I said it earlier in this post, the shotgun for sale is not ugly...it's incredibly practical and accurate for the conditions where this is expected to be used. GLWTS.

 

[Altitude sickness]

BeeMaa, unfortunately a long range 12 gauge is an oxymoron, and the laws are changing in most shotgun deer zones. Many want a plastic .350 , .450 or .360 buckhammer. There are people that still prefer the ballistics of a slug gun. So there may still be a buyer out there.

I usually use a stick bow during gun season. But the deer gun most loaned out at my place when people hunt out back. is a deadly Savage 220 with Zeiss scope and accutips. A 300 yard deer gun all day.