You Tube Hunting Couple Brown Bear Gone Wrong

[sureshot375]

This is one of the more interesting hunting videos Ive seen in a while. Full disclosure, I know absolutely nothing about hunting Alaska. It seems to me however this couple had a complete lack of respect for the entire situation which nearly lead to their demise.

In general they seemed to have a whimsical attitude about dangerous game hunting. A little too much let’s take selfies like and subscribe and not enough let’s take this seriously or we might get eaten.

They took one rifle, a revolver, and a bow. Who the hell hunts dangerous game with one rifle?? What on earth were they doing with that bow?? I mean it’s one thing if you have someone competent backing you up with a rifle and you want to bow hunt, but that wasn’t the case here. Doesn’t seem like a bow would have been remotely feasible based on the terrain.

Then there was the shot. 400 plus yards at dangerous game seems irresponsible. Obviously there was a lack of energy and or proper shot placement.

Their one and only rifle was loaded with “hot” hand loads which lead to the rifle’s failure. A blown primer kept the rifle from going back in battery. Hunting dangerous game in extreme conditions is not the place to max out a load.

I could go on and on.

In any event, it’s a video worth watching.

 

[Scott CWO]

Yes, I’ve seen this. Totally irresponsible shooting at brown bears, or any dangerous game, at that distance. Their rifle setup was also not suited for dangerous game.

 

[ACM]

I can’t believe the bear even saw them with all that matching camo! Even the gun was matching camo!

 

[Philip Glass]

I always say, and y'all always jump all over me, you should not use hand loads for DG! If you are an expert fine. These stories are constant about guys who "worked up a load" and their bullets failed or guns jammed. I'll bet he never rapid fired 5 rounds before he left home.

 

[Hogpatrol]

My 2¢. You can't fix stupid.

 

[WAB]

I always say, and y'all always jump all over me, you should not use hand loads for DG! If you are an expert fine. These stories are constant about guys who "worked up a load" and their bullets failed or guns jammed. I'll bet he never rapid fired 5 rounds before he left home.

There are people that should and those that shouldn’t. This dude definitely falls into the shouldn’t category. Personally, I’ve killed a number of bear with reloads, but I am very careful and quite confident that my reloads are superior to factory loads.

On another tick in the stupid column, those folks and their gear are two trips for that plane, and yet there all the gear sits in a pile on the beach. So that dude sat there for hours waiting for the second run without even carting the first run up to camp? He needs to stay in the city and buy his food at the supermarket.

 

[deewayne2003]

If they had been as concerned with shot placement as they are with product placement that situation wouldn’t have happened.

475yd shot in howling wind on a bedded animal partially obscured by the snow den it was bedded in.

She said it best in the interview…..
“What’s this bow gonna do?”

Thank god they found the pistol after they dropped it on the run!

That was a beautiful bear and deserved a better death.

I’ve never been to Alaska, but I would have been embarrassed to post that video.

 

[JimP]

These two had to be Alaska residents for a non guided hunt, and this is why Alaska requires non residents to have a guide. Stupid is stupid does. I can't imagine why a person would pack a handgun with only the loads in the pistol with no extra shells.

As for hand loads, that is all I have shot in the last 20 years except for a couple new rifles where I had a box of factory. But there are some things that you need to do with them. Make sure that all the loads that you have will cycle through the action. I also never shoot max loads, all my loads have been backed off. You never know if and or when you might get a couple more grains of powder into that case and when you pull the trigger the action will lock up, or in this case blow a primer out.

You can also have the same problem with factory loads and on this forum I have read where members have experienced some of the problems, not as likely but it does happen.

But back to the video, on my grizzly hunt I had the chance to take a bear at 578 yards. I declined because of the distance. My rifle and loads were perfectly capable of shooting very accurate that far but I just didn't want to chance that anything might go wrong.

 

[PARA45]

Where was the guide? I thought an Alaska non-resident had to be accompanied by a license guide to hunt bears. Stupid sh*t like this is what gives our sport a bad rap.

 

[JimP]

Where was the guide? I thought an Alaska non-resident had to be accompanied by a license guide to hunt bears. Stupid sh*t like this is what gives our sport a bad rap.

I'd wager that they were residents just because of no guide.

 

[WAB]

Where was the guide? I thought an Alaska non-resident had to be accompanied by a license guide to hunt bears. Stupid sh*t like this is what gives our sport a bad rap.

Had to be a resident. Alaska has its fair share of idiots too.

 

[Major Bonkers]

To be fair, WAB, they are young, and the only way to get experience is to get out there and do it. And they have had the honesty to post - what seems to be - a fair account of what they got up to. That said, the way that they went about matters does not seem particularly sporting or respectful.

It always astonishes me that more people don't manage to kill themselves out hunting. I almost managed it when I rolled an Argo on myself in the middle of nowhere.

Next week, Trevor and Tana go after a Cape Buffalo with a .243" and five rounds.

 

[Boone66]

I always say, and y'all always jump all over me, you should not use hand loads for DG! If you are an expert fine. These stories are constant about guys who "worked up a load" and their bullets failed or guns jammed. I'll bet he never rapid fired 5 rounds before he left home.

I hand load for everything, and you are right. Gotta test them loads, rapid fire in heat and cold. I bet the chamber got hot and caused the over pressure, like a cook off in a machine gun. Totally irresponsible shot at a brown bear at that range.

 

[deewayne2003]

I hand load for everything, and you are right. Gotta test them loads, rapid fire in heat and cold. I bet the chamber got hot and caused the over pressure, like a cook off in a machine gun. Totally irresponsible shot at a brown bear at that range.

Per the video at 39:40 …

“Pretty hot round, the pressure is above saami specs”

And this is from someone other than the shooter/hunter so I would be willing to bet the hunter had this 3rd party load his ammo.

So a combination of errors and irresponsible behavior.

 

[pilar]

I always say, and y'all always jump all over me, you should not use hand loads for DG! If you are an expert fine. These stories are constant about guys who "worked up a load" and their bullets failed or guns jammed. I'll bet he never rapid fired 5 rounds before he left home.

I follow that same rules of engagement with DG
i have seen reloads do some stuff factory made usually doesn’t do
like break a case @ the magnum belt and leave the broken part jammed in the chamber
seen crushed primers not fire
action jammed by hot loads
not good in a heated moment
also imo a rifle should be thoughly cleaned and the firing spring lubricated with Lukus gun oil ( good from -40 to 400*) , a shot of WD-40 doesn’t cut the mustard

 

[62flint]

I follow that same rules of engagement with DG
i have seen reloads do some stuff factory made usually doesn’t do
like break a case @ the magnum belt and leave the broken part jammed in the chamber
seen crushed primers not fire
action jammed by hot loads
not good in a heated moment
also imo a rifle should be thoughly cleaned and the firing spring lubricated with Lukus gun oil ( good from -40 to 400*) , a shot of WD-40 doesn’t cut the mustard

I hand load for all my rifles. While I am new to the 375hh. I have loaded quite a bit of 30-06 and 300wm.
I have never. ( knock on wood) had a ammo malfunction with my hand loads.
But I am very careful with my loads. Especially my hunting loads.
Personally I would feel more confident hunting DG with my hand load. And if I get eaten because of ammo malfunction then I know who’s fault it was.

 

[pilar]

Had to be a resident. Alaska has its fair share of idiots too.

Yes idiots they are the crew that left a trophy bull elk in the bed of the truck to get stolen @ a motel fast forward to 20:00 minutes mark

 

[BRICKBURN]

....... I'll bet he never rapid fired 5 rounds before he left home.

I would not take that bet with someone else's money.

 

[BRICKBURN]

My 2¢. You can't fix stupid.

One of these days one of those bears might do the job properly.

 

[double rifle newbie]

ive been fortunate to have been able to hunt and harvest an alaskan griz. i am glad that they owned up to all the mistakes they made, the first making the decision to fire from 470 yards. ive actually taken one animal at that range. it was a caribou up in the noatak river drainage with my 338 win mag with hand loads. ill take that shot at a caribou if i feel i can hit it cleanly, but never at dangerous game. 1)you are more likely to get in a “wounded animal” situation because the bullet doesnt hit as hard, more likely to not place the shot exactly where you intended, now you have a wounded dangerous animal to contend with. 2)isnt part of the allure of dangerous game hunting the fact you are hunting something that can turn the tables in an instant?

Get as reasonably close as you can before firing on dangerous game. I took my Griz on a wide dry spot of the kelly river up in the brooks range. I could’ve shot at 200 yards with my 416 rem mag with 400 grain woodleigh hydros but crossed open dry riverbed to cut the distance down, shooting at 105 yards. more likely to make a cleaner shot and have it hit harder, and it makes for a more memorable experience.

i am paraphrasing, but the late Peter Hathaway Capstick said it so well. “Anyone can walk up and shoot an elephant at 300 yards. Thats not real elephant hunting.”

my 2 cents