1910 Mannlicher

[Rolland]

I recently aquired ownership of a 1910 barreled action missing the stock and associated hardware, over the past few months I have aquired a stock and most of the hardware altho I am still needing a couple of items, the butt plate spring for the trap door and the latch for the pistol grip cap, and a front sight. Through the help of some very knowledgeable people on Nitro Express web site was able to learn a lot and find some parts I was missing.
In time also looking for reloading information as there does not seem to be much out there. I was in hopes that I might find some guidance here as well.
I always wanted one altho not necessarily in this caliber 95. x 57.
I can provide photos if needed.

 

[Brian Rothhammer]

Welcome to AH.

Here's a note or two regarding der Mannlicher Schoenauer: https://www.africahunting.com/threa...908-m1910-m1924-m1925-or-high-velocity.47277/

 

[SaintPanzer]

Working up some loads for this is on my "to do" list this spring. Really hoping the import of SHM brass works out. Will keep people posted here as we move along.

 

[Krink783]

If your Mannlicher is a Model 1910, it's probably in caliber 9.5x56mm M-S (AKA 9.5x57mm M-S).....that was the standard caliber for the Model 1910. Bullet diameter is .375.

 

[MS 9x56]

Is it in carbine or standard rifle length?

 

[Major Bonkers]

It will be the usual half-stock in that calibre.

(1) Parts available from: https://shop.miedler-waffen.at/Mannlicher-Schoenauer

Usefully, Herr Miedler will sell you a tang ('shotgun') safety, allowing the flag safety either to be kept in reserve or shrouded off.

There was discussion recently about the peep-sight that is often found on these rifles at the hand (or 'grip'). I hate this feature, as it jars that area of hand between the thumb and index finger, but others like it.

(2) Consider adding cross bolts to the stock/ action. If you are going to restock it, consider making it a takedown which, while not original, makes transportation easier.

(3) Reloading data from African Dangerous Game Cartridges by Pierre van der Walt (the bible), below (and my notes). The round itself is essentially a slightly underpowered .375 H&H.

(4) Avoid the modern Kynoch ammunition, which has a reputation for splitting at the neck.

 

[yamoon]

4895 seams toe the powder of choice in North America. Norma powders in Europe. Axel has posted several loads using Norma powder on the Nitro Express forum. I have been trying to work up a load using a ball powder, but so far I have had no luck.
Mike

 

[SaintPanzer]

4895 seams toe the powder of choice in North America. Norma powders in Europe. Axel has posted several loads using Norma powder on the Nitro Express forum. I have been trying to work up a load using a ball powder, but so far I have had no luck.
Mike

Which ball powder have you tried? I was going to start with VV N160, and maybe shift to N150...

 

[SaintPanzer]

It will be the usual half-stock in that calibre.

Guess I'm going to have to saw the front half of my stock off.

How long is your barrel?

I tried the Kynoch ammo once. Actually about 5 times. I think I had four cases split at the web. At least I was 5 for 5 on my Baden-Wûrtemburg needle shoot though. I'm told there was quite the bit of fire coming out the barrel. When I pulled the other rounds (of the box of 10), I found they were loaded with cordite. They were non-corrosive Berdan primers, I think we dated the box to the late 1950s. I tried playing with the empty cases to make some dummy rounds, but found it was very easy to crush the shoulder.

I'm thinking the combination of age and cordite did a number on softening the brass.

Mine does have a Lyman peep, but I've not found it to be in the way. I do have small hands, and I've been known to lay my thumb along the stock instead of wrapping it around the grip, in the old USMC Springfield manner.

One "modern" concession on mine: When I bought it, the front dovetail for the scope was soldered on the barrel, and not dovetailed into the receiver (which I was happy to see). I found an older scope stamped "Johann Springer Erben" on it, but the Vienna Springer Mount was a bit too far back, so I had a smith in Suhl make an "adapter" to move the mount a bit aft. Functional, but a bit ugly. I don't mind though, it's completely reversible, and my eyes aren't up to the iron sights anymore anyway...