$1k budget for Scope

Where are you finding S&B for that kind of money?
ebay is a good place to start. Looks like there are a bunch of them on there now that are pretty low priced, may be new old stock, refurbed at factory, don't know....I'd check it out.
 
trijicon has some good offerings in that price range.

 
+1 on Leupold and +1 on Trijicon. I have a couple of VX5s for the Leupold. None hunted hard so no comments on their ability to take a beating. The Trij is new and on a .375, but it is a 1-6 so probably less than what you'd want for your range. There seem to be some great prices on Leupolds here from great sellers so a great used one could be just the ticket for $1k (can't believe that's now a limiting budget factor). Only thing I would also say is I've always been disappointed with a Vortex for lots of reasons. They fit in your budget but once I shot Leupold and Trij I never looked backed. Also, I have an old Zeiss Conquest on a. 300WM that has been a rock. Multiple Africa trips and it never moves. So +1 there assuming they still make good scopes.
 
Swaro Z3 of Leupold VX5HD. In the VX5 line the 2-10 or 3-15 are hard to beat. I personally like the 44mm Obj.

If you hunt hard you can sometimes snag a Z5 or a S&B Klassik in that price range. I picked up a S&B 3-12 the other day for $750 BUT haven’t snagged one that cheap in over a year. Most are around $1200 used
 
Lots of great scopes these days. Yes Leupold has a long history of great optics and for the most part I usually buy them. I have 2 scopes not made by them and many many that are!

More important to me is the right magnification range and mount scope as low as possible if the comb of your stock is not adjustable. Marrying your check to the stock and eye to the optic are most important.
 
I think 2 or 3 power on the low end would do well for me. Seems like I always use more power than what I see guys using. I know for a 100yd shot I would probably be on 7-9 power and I see that typically guys using 4 or less for this range. I feel like the more I zoom in the more accurate I can be but its not always the case.
With that in mind I'm going against the grain here to recommend something with greater magnification. You should look more in the area of a 3-15 or 3.5-18. For smaller calibers with good range ability i personally like the Swarovski Z5 in 3.5-18x44. It is relatively light weight, 1" tube that with the 44mm objective allows nice low mounting. It is a svelte scope with long tubes allowing much flexibility in mounting without any fancy rails or bases/rings. Superior glass to a Leupold and can be had with a ballistic turret or a graduated reticle. They can be found on closeout right now but may be a tad over your budget. Although well worth it. Maybe you can find a good used one or a basic plex reticle for your $1000?

A close second to me is the discontinued Zeiss Conquest HD in a 1" tube 3-15. I have a few of those including one with graduated reticle on my favorite 338 Win Mag. Should be able to find one for your budget. If not PM me and I might be able to help locate one... if you decide to go this way.
 
Looking for opinions. I am setting up a new 30-06 rifle. It will be for hunting. 300 to 400 yard shots being the farthest for me. I do not care for the tactical look and would like to stay with direct mount rings to avoid a rail. Recommendations on good rings would also be appreciated. I have never used anything over a $200 scope or and scope with an adjustable turret but I do like the idea to be able to adjust to different yardages. From what I have seen Leupold fits most of my requirements. Just wandering what else you guys recommend. Thanks

Leupold have always been, and remain, a good option, but their glass & coatings are objectively not as good as those of the big 4 (Zeiss, Leica, Swarovski, Schmidt & Bender).

Zeiss V4 and Swarovski Z3 represent the absolute best value for the money. Their 4 and 3 magnification ratio are plenty enough for most hunting, and drastically less expensive than their 6 or 8 magnification ratio scopes (V6 & V8, Z6 & Z8).

For a .30-06, the Zeiss V4 3-12x44 and Swarovski Z3 3-10x42 are likely the best choices, both in the $800 range, new. The Zeiss probably has a technical edge due to wider magnification range and slightly larger objective diameter, although Swarovski have taken the American market by storm over the last decade due to intense marketing and aggressive product placement with custom & high-end gun makers, and they have developed fierce customer loyalty. Technically speaking there is not much to choose between the two.

Other options include V4 4-16x44 or Z5 3.5-18x44, but you are now in the $1,200 range, new, and while they may prove useful for a longer reaching caliber (e.g. .300) they are likely overkill for a .30-06.

It never hurts before pulling the trigger (pun fully intended ;)) on a new scope to check what is floating on eBay. While many listings, even used, are no cheaper, or even more expensive, than high volume distributors, one can sometimes find true opportunities either used, or "floor demo" or discontinued series.

In terms of rings (depending on which rifle and which bases), Talley and Warnes also represent great value for the money.

For the longest time, folks in the know have argued that one should spend more on the scope than on the rifle. This was and still is sound advice, especially as regards entry-level rifles in the $500 range.

However, nowadays the price of quality in glass has (comparatively) dropped significantly more than the price of quality in rifles, and the trend seems now reversed with, for example, a standard Win 70 costing $1,200, which is more expensive than one of the above $800 top tier scopes, even if one adds $200 in bases and rings.

Regarding rings & bases, an also well-established wisdom is that it is foolish to pair a good rifle and a good scope with inferior rings & bases.

You will be amazed at the difference there is between a $200 scope and a V4 or Z3, especially in low light conditions :)
 
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Another vote for leupold, give Mark Biggerstaff a call, I got a good deal from him on a leupold scope, bases and Talley rings, great guy to do business with the company is R&M I believe.
 
The glass and crosshairs are very nice. It’s a nice looking little scope, but I find it to be more of a 2-6 than a 2-10. Above 6 power I start having issues with eye relief. You need to be lined up perfect. I was excited to try it but just not the scope for me. If anyone would be interested in buying one I’d sell mine for $375 shipped (70% of Maven price). It’s been mounted but never shot. I swapped it for a 1” Leupold.
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I will agree, the Maven 2-10x eye relief over 6-7 power gets short. But if the caliber suits, it doesn’t hurt.
 

I have a couple VX5s that would fit the bill you’re looking for. Feel free to reach out via PM if either of these would work for you.
 
Looking for opinions. I am setting up a new 30-06 rifle. It will be for hunting. 300 to 400 yard shots being the farthest for me. I do not care for the tactical look and would like to stay with direct mount rings to avoid a rail. Recommendations on good rings would also be appreciated. I have never used anything over a $200 scope or and scope with an adjustable turret but I do like the idea to be able to adjust to different yardages. From what I have seen Leupold fits most of my requirements. Just wandering what else you guys recommend. Thanks

I'm asking you to give a few specifics:

What brand 30-06?
Does the rifle require a one piece or two piece base?
What eye relief are you wanting?
What tube diameter are you most interested in getting?
What is your max objective diameter?
Do you require low, med, high mount rings?
Are you wanting 1/8" or 1/4" inch click adjustments?
What type cross hair do you prefer? ie mil dot, fine medium, fire dot, "Christmas" tree, etc.
Lighted, multi color lighted, or plain recticle?
First or Second Focal Plane?
Bullet Drop Compensation?


I can fully recommend:

Osprey Global scopes. Mine came with rings for the bases on the particular brand and caliber rifles I had intended to mount or mounted the scopes on.

Euro Optics, GPO scopes are another good choice.

For hunting in low light conditions, I perfer a minimum of 30mm tube and 44mm objective.
 
Leupold and Swarovski are good lightweight hunting scopes. Meopta are clear but a heavier unit.

How often do you shoot out to 3-400? It might be a consideration in magnification but it’s a personal preference too.

I mostly look at 3-9x40 as a hunting scope but it’s what is right for you. I would certainly consider 2-10x magnification as a bit more versatile as I have hunted close. At times.

ZeroTech are an Australian owned business getting good reviews on the scopes they have Branded ZeroTech
 
What brand 30-06? Bergara B14 Hunter
Does the rifle require a one piece or two piece base? Either (I believe)
What eye relief are you wanting? Normal (3-5)
What tube diameter are you most interested in getting? 1" or 30mm
What is your max objective diameter? 44mm
Do you require low, med, high mount rings? Low
Are you wanting 1/8" or 1/4" inch click adjustments? 1/4
What type cross hair do you prefer? ie mil dot, fine medium, fire dot, "Christmas" tree, etc. Medium
Lighted, multi color lighted, or plain recticle? Plain reticle or similar to Firedot
First or Second Focal Plane? ??? I dont understand this
Bullet Drop Compensation? Looking for suggestions vs Adjustable Turret
 
What brand 30-06? Bergara B14 Hunter
Does the rifle require a one piece or two piece base? Either (I believe)
What eye relief are you wanting? Normal (3-5)
What tube diameter are you most interested in getting? 1" or 30mm
What is your max objective diameter? 44mm
Do you require low, med, high mount rings? Low
Are you wanting 1/8" or 1/4" inch click adjustments? 1/4
What type cross hair do you prefer? ie mil dot, fine medium, fire dot, "Christmas" tree, etc. Medium
Lighted, multi color lighted, or plain recticle? Plain reticle or similar to Firedot
First or Second Focal Plane? ??? I dont understand this
Bullet Drop Compensation? Looking for suggestions vs Adjustable Turret

Most “Hunting scopes” are second focal plane. The reticle does not change its size as you zoom the range of magnification.

First Focal Plane scopes have the reticle set in a different position in the order of the lense assembly. Something like that.

What’s important is First Focal Plane is often used in tactical style scopes. The reason is the gash marks or subtensions stay in proportion to the image as you change zoom. For ranging purposes if the reticle has .2mil radian subtensions and .5 an 1 mil radian it will appear bigger on higher magnification but the distance is the same so it can be used to range a target if you know the size or approximate size . You can also use the hash marks to allow a hold over. They can be a simple reticle too but the principle is the same.
These are common in PRS and tactical matches. They can be used for long range.
Someone may be able to explain it more correctly but it’s probably not what you want in this instance.

So you have narrowed it down to a second focal plane. 2-10 or 3-9 etc. Tube diameter won’t matter so long as you can get the rings or bridge mount to suit. 25 & 30mm should both be available to suit the action and ring height.

I think the Bergara would use REM 700 pattern mounts unless you have a Piccatinny rail then you will possibly have even more ring options.

The bullet drop compensation can be had in SFP and FFP scopes reticle. Or you can have a ballistic turret.
I think Leupold call it a cdc. They supply a second elevation turret cap or a coupon to have it supplied with a drop data engraved on it to suit your rifle and load from data supplied by you and they calculate the trajectory or required compensation.


Just realised that’s a a50mm objective lens model but my 4mm seems bright enough in most situations. No doubt some glass will be better but in the price point it’s still good.

Might be an option if you expect to be shooting at longer ranges.

Good luck with your research
 
How often do you shoot out to 3-400? It might be a consideration in magnification but it’s a personal preference too.

I used these numbers wanting to make sure I would be good for future Africa hunts? I have never been (yet) but from videos I do on occasion see guys shooting this far. I am, at home, a 100 yards or less guy. Typical whitetail hunts in my woods or probably even closer to 50 yards or less. Am I way off in my thinking? What ranges do you guys typically experience?
 
How often do you shoot out to 3-400? It might be a consideration in magnification but it’s a personal preference too.

I used these numbers wanting to make sure I would be good for future Africa hunts? I have never been (yet) but from videos I do on occasion see guys shooting this far. I am, at home, a 100 yards or less guy. Typical whitetail hunts in my woods or probably even closer to 50 yards or less. Am I way off in my thinking? What ranges do you guys typically experience?
My longest shot in South Africa was ranged at 235m by the PH.

10 animals taken on the package all on the same property and most inside 200 I believe.

There probably are opportunities to take long shots if you prefer and various opportunities might present if you are geared up and clued up intending to hunt that way.

That’s where a 3-15 might still be good at 50 and offer clear identification at a longer distance but I’m not sure I would use 15x in the field so much.

Even the 4-12 is versatile
 
Every scope I have is Leupold, a VX5 in 2x10 would fit the bill nicely and keep you close to your budget. There are some nice Leupold's in the classifieds here for sale. I have purchased a number of scopes from @Mark Biggerstaff here on AH. Mark is a great guy and will take good care of you!
Yup that would be the one to get. I do like the CDS feature.
 
First focal plane (FFP) means the reticle subtensions are accurate at any magnification. The reticle will enlarge as you increase magnification. Second focal plane (SFP), they will only be accurate at one magnification. The reticle will remain the same size throughout the mag range. Most folks who use turrets to dial will opt for FFP. Very common in the tactical arena but becoming very popular in the hunting world as well. This is evidenced by many "crossover" style hunting/tactical scopes.
 
If it is possible to keep the shots 200y and under I would probably try to keep the scope as simple as possible.
 

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