.416 Rem Mag: Information For Building A Budget Big-Game Rifle ( 416 Remington Magnum )

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Getting there.
And nice kerosene lanterns
Gumpy
Thanks for the boost :)

Those were my grandparent's lanterns.
I inherited their house around 2010 and was 3 of their lanterns here when I moved in.
I still remember the lanterns as a kid, and so brings back some memories. I'm also a prepper and so the lanterns are certainly appreciated.

Whenever power goes out and all we have are the lanterns, I tell my wife that we have to keep them turned down to conserve fuel. Actually its to keep things a bit darker and she dont see me slip out a couple hundred extra bucks while playing Monopoly lol
 
I think this stock is much better.

The straight classic stock should be much better in terms of handling recoil than the
wood stock you ordered.

Both in terms of comfort for the shooter and durability because of the metal bedding built into it.
 
THE SAVAGE 110 BOTTOM METAL & MAGAZINE FOR THE ACCUSTOCK

The bottom metal, magazine, and follower are probably the biggest problems/concerns with this particular build, and especially because the .416 isn't common enough to readily find it's parts at places like Ebay, G-nBroker, and even specialty shops.

After a couple months of constantly hitting dead ends with 416 parts, I realized the .375 H&H Mag and the .416 Rem Mag have the same size cartridge base and the same length.
The only difference is a small difference in how each case slopes from its base up to where the bottle neck starts.
So I started getting excited with that realization, but the excitement soon ended because it was also difficult, but not as bad as the 416, to find .375 HH parts as in the way of an actual magazine, or a follower and spring for if I had went with an internal magazine compartment.
Even when I did happen to come across a couple .375 HH parts, the sellers knew what they had, since the price was jacked up sky-high!

So now that I had to change to the Savage Accustock and it requires the use of their brand of bottom metal and magazine, or the use of a another manufacture's bottom metal and magazine, so far I have settled on the company Accurate-Mag since I was seeing a significant number of people making complaints about Savage's own magazines.

When it comes to Accurate-Mag, I rarely see anyone making complaints about the quality or functionality of their bottle metals when used with the AICS magazines.
The main thing I did see was a common issue whereby AICS is GOUGING customers for an average cost of 80.00 DOLLARS for a magazine while AICS expects their customers to do AICS job of sanding and polishing the follower since they drag and sometime get hung up on the walls of the magazine body, and I also seen where AICS expects its customers to sand down the sharp edges of the feed lips.

For 80.00 DOLLARS, not to mention the additional tax and shipping costs that goes with it, is absurd even if the company did its responsibility to clean up the follower and feed lips!
 
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WHERE-TO-GO-TO INFORMATION FOR BOTTOM METALS:

  • Accurate-Mag

  • PTG (Pacific Tool & Gauge)

  • Atlasworxs

  • Hawkins Precision

  • Kelby’s Inc ( Might only provide short action bottom metal )

  • CDI Precision ( No Longer In Business … In 2019 the owner's wife posted on his FaceBook page that he had died )
 
And if anyone knows any more places that produce their own version of bottom metals for Savage, please list them in this thread and use capital letters to make a header that can be quickly noticed by others :)
 
and now back to the bottom metal for the 416 Rem Mag .....

Since Savage doesn't provide a .416 or .375 magazine, I possibly still got lucky enough.
The Accurate-Mag bottom metal will accept a AICS .338 Lapua Mag

The following are the measurements for the .416 Rem Mag and the .338 Lapua cartridge:
 
The Following Is Copied and Pasted from ACCURATE-MAG's listing for the bottom metal shown in the previous screen capture:


Description:

WARNING: These bottom metal kits are only for rifles with bolt release mechanisms on the side of the rifle action, not in the trigger guard.

*ALL BOTTOM METAL KITS MAY OR MAY NOT NEED INLETTING TO FIT YOUR RIFLE STOCK


The Accurate-Mag bottom metal kit is Savages OEM premier direct drop in bottom metal kit that uses Accurate-Mag magazines. Designed and built by engineers at Accurate-Mag, it is built from 6061-T6 and anodized for a flat black finish. The bottom metals are designed for Accu-Stock rifles or can be inletted for a savage rifle stock.

These bottom metals are designed for Savage model 110 type actions, they will not work in the savage axis line.

This kit does not include mounting screws for the bottom metal because the savage factory screws are intended to be used. Longer screws may be needed, however, these are not available from Accurate-Mag Products.

This bottom metal can be used with any Accurate Mag AICS long action 3.850″ length SSSF magazine. If you’re magazine is not available in the drop down list, select “no magazine” and purchase the desired magazine separately from the magazines page.

Kit Includes:
  • Magazine Well Assembly
  • Trigger Guard
  • Magazine

ItemCartridgeCapacity
01200-0006-12No MagNo Mag
01200-0006-08.300 WM3
01200-0006-01.300 WM5
01200-0006-09.338LM3
01200-0006-02.338LM5
01200-0006-10.300 RUM3
01200-0006-13.300 RUM5
01200-0006-1730-065
01200-0006-1630-063
01200-0006-20.308win3
01200-0006-21.308win5
 
The 416 Rem Mag has a cartridge base diameter of .532 and the .338 Lapua Mag has a cartridge base diameter of .587

The 416 Rem Mag has an OAL of 3.6" and the 338 Lapua Mag has an OAL of 3.66"

So my initial thoughts are using the Accurate-Mag bottom metal and the .338 Lapua AICS magazine, and since the 338 Lapua has a bigger base diameter of its cartridge compared to the 416 Rem Mag, I can first try to manipulate the magazine's feed lips to properly hug the curvature of the 416 Rem Mag

I know the feed lips are heat treated but I'm hoping to move them just enough to make a difference that's needed
 
Two more options.

1. Make your rifle a 416 Ruger,it is the same length as a 300 Win Magnum and has the same ballistics as a 416 Remington.

2. Make your rifle a 416 Rigby, the 338 Lapua is derived from the 416 Rigby case.

The Rigby would require a 338 Lapua Bolt/ Bolt Face.

Either is Ballistically the same thing as a 416 Remington but may be easier for you to put together.
 

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