.416 Ruger Brass issue

[deewayne2003]

After watching this video I’ve gained a lot of respect for the owner of Buffalo Bore ammo for putting it out there.

If you got some of the new .416 Ruger brass, I would check your brass before loading it.

 

[CoElkHunter]

+1. I really like Tim Sundles and appreciate him sharing this video. Seems like Hornady needs to improve their quality control at least with this cartridge brass but probably others as well. I’ve never hunted DG, but I would run ALL cartridges I would be using on the hunt through the action to assure proper feeding.

 

[Grumpy gumpy]

Whatever happened to not trusting new factory brass and full length sizing each case?
I always give new brass a full work over from sizing to reaming flash holes, that way I know it’s got the best chance of working when I want/need it to.
Gumpy

 

[deewayne2003]

Whatever happened to not trusting new factory brass and full length sizing each case?
I always give new brass a full work over from sizing to reaming flash holes, that way I know it’s got the best chance of working when I want/need it to.
Gumpy

I hear you and agree, while I don't full size the new cases I do uniform the neck by running the brass halfway into the die.

On the other hand, when it comes to the Buffalo Bore .416Ruger ammo shown in the video.... how the hell could you quality control every piece of brass that comes in?

This is a major FUBAR on Hornady's part.

 

[549]

I’d like to have a 416 Ruger, but the brass & ammo availability, or lack thereof, has ruled it out.

 

[Papa72]

I encountered this same issue with my new Hornady .416 Ruger brass. I recently rechambered a .416 Taylor to .416 Ruger and it headspaced fine, chambered the dummy rounds I purchased off Ebay fine, and even chambered the Buffalo Bore 400gr TSX rounds without a hitch. However, the bolt would not easily close on 2 dummy rounds I made with the new Hornady brass…took a lot of force to jam it closed. Being dummy rounds they were not run through the sizer die. Was about to suspect my finish reamer was the culprit.

 

[shootist~]

Absolutely on running all new brass through the FL sizer die. Take nothing for
granted.

Most of my sizer set-ups are for only ~.002 shoulder setback, so the shoulders of New brass aren't touched anyway.

Learned my lesson the hard way during the Y2K component shortage of 1999. Although it was with a purchase of "fully processed" once fired brass, not factory new.

 

[Grumpy gumpy]

On the other hand, when it comes to the Buffalo Bore .416Ruger ammo shown in the video.... how the hell could you quality control every piece of brass that comes in?

This is a major FUBAR on Hornady's part.

I don’t know much about buffalo bore, or they production amounts, but the few smaller companies out here that produce ammo run all of it through dies so start with, litigation is a big thing to worry about. But aside from that, it does appear that hornady has slipped up a bit, I wonder what went wrong
Gumpy

 

[Flbt]

I don’t know much about buffalo bore, or they production amounts, but the few smaller companies out here that produce ammo run all of it through dies so start with, litigation is a big thing to worry about. But aside from that, it does appear that hornady has slipped up a bit, I wonder what went wrong
Gumpy

I am not a re loader but I have been told some hornday brass is short. Especially the leaver ammo with the plastic tip.
Why would they make ammo short?

 

[CoElkHunter]

I encountered this same issue with my new Hornady .416 Ruger brass. I recently rechambered a .416 Taylor to .416 Ruger and it headspaced fine, chambered the dummy rounds I purchased off Ebay fine, and even chambered the Buffalo Bore 400gr TSX rounds without a hitch. However, the bolt would not easily close on 2 dummy rounds I made with the new Hornady brass…took a lot of force to jam it closed. Being dummy rounds they were not run through the sizer die. Was about to suspect my finish reamer was the culprit.

I wonder if you could rechamber a .416 Ruger to .416 Taylor? It would be great if it would work because the Ruger Hawkeye models are very reasonably priced compared to a custom rifle in the Taylor cartridge.

 

[549]

I am not a re loader but I have been told some hornday brass is short. Especially the leaver ammo with the plastic tip.
Why would they make ammo short?

I believe the leverevolution bullets were a bit longer and to seat them at the cannelure, the brass was cut back a bit. May have been to meet O.A.L. limits also. In this case is wasn't an "Oops", it was by design.

 

[Flbt]

I believe the leverevolution bullets were a bit longer and to seat them at the cannelure, the brass was cut back a bit. May have been to meet O.A.L. limits also. In this case is wasn't an "Oops", it was by design.

Thanks

 

[Papa72]

I wonder if you could rechamber a .416 Ruger to .416 Taylor? It would be great if it would work because the Ruger Hawkeye models are very reasonably priced compared to a custom rifle in the Taylor cartridge.

No, because the .416 Ruger cartridge is dimensionally larger in every aspect than the Taylor. The Taylor’s belt happens to be the same diameter as the Ruger’s case at the head so it’s an easy reaming job to enlarge the chamber, just can’t go the other way.

 

[CoElkHunter]

No, because the .416 Ruger cartridge is dimensionally larger in every aspect than the Taylor. The Taylor’s belt happens to be the same diameter as the Ruger’s case at the head so it’s an easy reaming job to enlarge the chamber, just can’t go the other way.

I figured that was the case (pun intended). LOL Maybe a Ruger in .338 WINCHESTER MAGNUM (same case dimensions as the Taylor) with a .416 barrel from someone/somewhere that would screw onto the Ruger and could be rechambered to the Taylor? Might have to be a barrel blank?

 

[Papa72]

I figured that was the case (pun intended). LOL Maybe a Ruger in .338 WINCHESTER MAGNUM (same case dimensions as the Taylor) with a .416 barrel from someone/somewhere that would screw onto the Ruger and could be rechambered to the Taylor? Might have to be a barrel blank?

If the .338WM and the Taylor share identical dimensions then could just have that barrel rebored to .416. May not be a cheaper option ‘tho.