460 Weatherby opinions?

[colorado]

Not to mention possible bolt face work, depending on what chambering you go with.

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[colorado]

@Axle2010: It doesn't matter what anybody thinks: If you want one, Go for it! I'm sure you'll Love it!

I love my 500 Jeffery, probably should've leaned a bit more forward though lol!

 

[Daniel Cary]

Excellent Form! lol. Little last min .. windage? ;

This 460 thread & it's Ban in Canada, really makes me wonder how long until the US follows suit.
Will the .500's, or Banning Ammunition period, be next. "Loopholes" around the 2nd.
Like the Student Loan Bailout (Another thread, Sorry)

 

[Axle2010]

Excellent Form! lol. Little last min .. windage? ;
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This 460 thread & it's Ban in Canada, really makes me wonder how long until the US follows suit.
Will the .500's, or Banning Ammunition period, be next. "Loopholes" around the 2nd.
Like the Student Loan Bailout (Another thread, Sorry)

Yeah they're coming at it from every possible direction the last few years. They're already made it so expensive most of us can't shoot like we used to

 

[tarbe]

Yeah they're coming at it from every possible direction the last few years. They're already made it so expensive most of us can't shoot like we used to

Well, I ran 30 rounds through my 460 this week and the brass in in the stainless steel pins cleaning up now.

Will load them back up and do it again!

 

[Axle2010]

Well, I ran 30 rounds through my 460 this week and the brass in in the stainless steel pins cleaning up now.

Will load them back up and do it again!

Tarbe I've seen/read a few places that mention a lot of case stretch with the 460. Is this much of an issue or just with full pressure hot loads? At $200+ a box for factory ammo I hope to get at least several reloads from the brass.

 

[Sika98k]

Stock design plays a part in felt recoil too. The typical Weatherby stocks, aesthetics aside, are usually well suited for a relatively high mounted scope, but not always the best for felt recoil. Take a look at a 450 Rigby stock, vs a 460 WM…

Second that . Two of my friends own 416’s. A Winchester Model 70 and a Ruger No1. The Winchester is a relative pussy to shoot. The Ruger however is decidedly unpleasant.

 

[colorado]

Excellent Form! lol. Little last min .. windage? ;
View attachment 545967
This 460 thread & it's Ban in Canada, really makes me wonder how long until the US follows suit.
Will the .500's, or Banning Ammunition period, be next. "Loopholes" around the 2nd.
Like the Student Loan Bailout (Another thread, Sorry)

From my cold dead fingers ...

 

[tarbe]

Tarbe I've seen/read a few places that mention a lot of case stretch with the 460. Is this much of an issue or just with full pressure hot loads? At $200+ a box for factory ammo I hope to get at least several reloads from the brass.

Most of my loading with this case family has been for 450 Dakota and 416 Rigby....only very recently 460 Weatherby.

I can say the cases are stout, the taper minimal and in a properly chambered rifle with properly sized brass I really don't think case stretching will be an issue, assuming the loads are not excessive.

This is just based on my experience with about 600 handloads in these chamberings mentioned above.

 

[CoElkHunter]

From my cold dead fingers ...

... and a sore shoulder. LOL

 

[grand veneur]

Most of my loading with this case family has been for 450 Dakota and 416 Rigby....only very recently 460 Weatherby.

I can say the cases are stout, the taper minimal and in a properly chambered rifle with properly sized brass I really don't think case stretching will be an issue, assuming the loads are not excessive.

This is just based on my experience with about 600 handloads in these chamberings mentioned above.

I have never noticed anything like that either.

I also reloaded a lot of cartridges caliber 460 WBY-Magnum in 30 years, often a case several times, and among other things cases from original cartridges from Weatherby from the sixties, cartridges with the maximum load of this time. None of these cases showed a stretching or an other change in size. I think that the chamber of a rifle is responsible for something like that.

 

[Tikka 9.3]

My son recently acquired a 460WM. After seenig the performance and punishment from mosly the wrong end of the rifle, it baffles me as to why this cartridge was developed. Then it dawns on me, this rifle was way ahead of its time. I can hear the conversation around the campfire where the hunter discribed in great detail how, with his high powered telescope, he killed the elephant with a 647 yard (genuinely ranged) brain shot. What a game changer.......

 

[RR 314]

My son recently acquired a 460WM. After seenig the performance and punishment from mosly the wrong end of the rifle, it baffles me as to why this cartridge was developed. Then it dawns on me, this rifle was way ahead of its time. I can hear the conversation around the campfire where the hunter discribed in great detail how, with his high powered telescope, e he killed the elephant with a 647 yard (genuinelyf a Mark ranged) brain shot. What a game changer.....

If a Mark V rifle, with factory loads, it will most likely be brutal. A properly built and weighted rifle is still a handful with factory loads, but substantially more manageable than a Weatherby offering. Can be loaded down to .458 Win. Etc, but kind of defeats the purported purpose.

 

[TTundra]

My son recently acquired a 460WM. After seenig the performance and punishment from mosly the wrong end of the rifle, it baffles me as to why this cartridge was developed. Then it dawns on me, this rifle was way ahead of its time. I can hear the conversation around the campfire where the hunter discribed in great detail how, with his high powered telescope, he killed the elephant with a 647 yard (genuinely ranged) brain shot. What a game changer.......

Mine dropped in its tracks at less than 20 yards.

What baffles me most owning and hunting with a 460 Wby is the larger than life tall tales it has garnered.
Follow the rules of any big bore. Make sure the rifle fits you, make sure you can handle it, and practice correct form. The 460 Wby is as formidable today as it was at its inception.

I'm almost embarrassed to say I've shot rifles at 50% of the "felt recoil" of the 460 wby and had them slap my face so hard I stopped after 1 or 2 shots. (See rule one above).

 

[colorado]

The rifle will most likely be the Weatherby Mark V (I wish they would offer it in a nice satin oil finish though) and after a couple boxes of factory stuff I'll be handloading for it. I've never shot any of the heavy kickers yet, only up to 300 wm and Buffalo Bore 4570's so far but neither of those bother me. Yeah I keep reading about the magic behind that .416 bullet, that's why I want one too

My advice is do not go from a 44/70 tp a 460 Weatherby really really bad idea. It's not just the recoil, but the recoil velocity that is the killer. I recommend going for a sedate 500 jeffery or 505 Gibbs. You get the glamor of a real African elephant anchoring rifle, get over that magic .50 mark and it will hurt you less.

 

[Axle2010]

My advice is do not go from a 44/70 tp a 460 Weatherby really really bad idea. It's not just the recoil, but the recoil velocity that is the killer. I recommend going for a sedate 500 jeffery or 505 Gibbs. You get the glamor of a real African elephant anchoring rifle, get over that magic .50 mark and it will hurt you less.

Colorado I've gotten a 375H&H and 416 Ruger since starting this thread and after reading a lot I'm thinking about a 458 WM next then a Jeffery when budget allows. I still like the 460 but that'll probably be a semi custom deal since I don't want one in the Mark V rifle.

 

[colorado]

Best of luck with your decision. When I had my 375 H&H rechambered/rebarreled to 500 Jeffery I thought "What have I done?" lol I love the rifle now

 

[BryceM]

I do shoulder surgery. I’ll not be firing one anytime soon. High velocity big bores is something I don’t need in my life.

 

[grand veneur]

My advice is do not go from a 44/70 tp a 460 Weatherby really really bad idea. It's not just the recoil, but the recoil velocity that is the killer. I recommend going for a sedate 500 jeffery or 505 Gibbs. You get the glamor of a real African elephant anchoring rifle, get over that magic .50 mark and it will hurt you less.

I don't know how you load your cartridges 500 Jeffery or 505 Gibbs, but my rifle caliber 500 Schüler has more recoil with a 535gr bullet that leaves the barrel at 2400 fps than my rifle caliber 460 Weatherby Magnum with a 500 gr bullet that leaves the barrel at 2500 fps. Maybe it's because of the different rifles, but despite it, I don't think that this recommendation is very good. I switched directly from a rifle caliber 9,3x64 to a rifle caliber 460 Weatherby Magnum. Sure, It was not that easy at the beginning and required a lot of training, but unfortunately there were no opportunities to test anything else at the time. The best way to prepare for shooting a rifle caliber 460 Weatherby Magnum is to train first with a rifle caliber 416 or similar and not with a rifle caliber 500 Jeffery, 505 Gibbs or 577 Nitro Express.

 

[krish]

@Axle2010
I WANTED A 460 WBY for long 30 years. But I wanted it in CRF. WETHERBY did not make them in CRF. I

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HAVE 458 WINCHESTER, 458 lott, 450 Rigby. But still wanted 460 Rigby. For me it is a WANT ONE not a need one. I am not recoil shy.
If you want one and can offord it Then Get One. You can always load it down to 23 or 2400 feet/second or even lower till you get comfortable.
Here are some pictures of 460 wby CRF CAustome built I got from AH Member @tarbe
Have fun
Krish.