Advice on Factory Regulation of Chapuis X4 in .30-06

[SFRanger7GP]

Beautiful rifle. I would go with 180gr ammo. Maybe a strange coincidence but all the 30-06 rifles I own or have owned shoot 180gr Remington Core-lokt and Barnes 180gr TTSX almost same POI at 100 yards. This includes a Merkel 141. It actually shot the 180gr Core-lokt better. 220gr and 200gr factory ammo is getting harder to find these days. 180-165 seem to be the most common available factory ammo.

Will this rifle be available in 7x57R?

Safe shooting

 

[Tom Leoni]

Will this rifle be available in 7x57R?

Alas no. Factory chamberings include 8x57JRS, .30 Blaser, .308 Win, .30-06 and 9.3x74R. Of these, for now I only import the last two as stock items. The others can be had by (non-cancelable) special order, delivery time approximately 6 months. I have flirted with the idea of buying an 8x57JRS for myself, but ammo availability is spotty at best.

I love the Rem CoreLokt 180s--that's definitely in the running as the default regulation.

(BTW, impeccable choice of rifles and calibers in your trip report!)

 

[Flipper Dude]

I’ve killed 2 eland with 30-06 with 220gr bullets using camp rifles. Wildebeest and sable as well. Damn heavy bullets hit like a brick. If I’m shooting my own ‘06 rifles I shoot 180 Barnes. Kinda on the fence on this one. My gut tells me shoot the 180 or 165s in a bolt rifle. Shoot the 220s in the double. You are not buying it for
long range shooting. Shoot the biggest plains game with the 220s. For me, that would be better use of the double. Either way, it’s a beautiful rifle, and congratulations!

 

[Safari Dave]

If it will shoot 180g or 220g factory Remington Core-lokts accurately, I would look no further.



I don't like scopes on DR's, so I would make it a <150m rifle.

 

[Safari Dave]

Do you know the barrel twist?

If not fast enough to stabilize heavy bullets, then there are other good options.


Beautiful rifle.

 

[Canadaboy]

I think any of the common 180 grain loads would be a good choice.

 

[Rubberhead]

Interesting question. There are a lot of "it depends" involved. The main point is, the heavier the bullet the more divergence from bore sighting that has to get built in. I'd consider too that if the rifle ever had to be used in a lead-free zone, then you'll want lighter, faster bullets that will open up on impact better than slower, heavier bullets.

Thinking of all that I grabbed my Nosler 9 manual and did a little more quantitative research. Then decided that if it was me, I'd get it regulated for 165 grain bullets on the faster side of the range. It would have some higher velocities to use mono metal bullets and, after shooting zebra and wildebeest with 180 grain Accubonds in a .30-06, I'd be fine shooting them with 165 grain Accubonds or Partitions.

Just my opinion.

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

IvW's arguments for not using a double as a single shot make sense, but when you are limited to a single rifle it also makes sense to get as much versatility out of it as possible. On smaller doubles, like 9.3 and below, as the 4x4 is, to me it makes a lot of sense to mount a scope for longer shots with the one barrel sighted, then whip it off if the occasion calls for or allows closer in. Of course it also makes sense if you just have a larger DG double as your only rifle too, but that starts to sound like sacrilege, so in my case I compromised on fitting a red dot to enable further PG shots and if it is too far pass.

 

[Woodcarver]

I’m envisioning this as a 150-200 yard rifle. We also offer the 9.3x74R version, which is regulated at 50 meters.

Beautiful rifle. Useful range for that rifle/cartridge combination in a double; optimize it with the 180gr bullet. What price point will this be offered at?

 

[Tom Leoni]

Hello, @Woodcarver - MSRP is about 7,500 for the '06, a bit less for the rimmed 9.3x74R.

 

[spike.t]

Well Tom I am in the 220 grn crowd....these my favorites in my m12 30-06 ..and if I was getting one of those doubles for here it would be these definitely

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But as you will be aiming at the USA market and have the 9.3x74r then I suppose the 180 grn makes sense....and again that little. 375 double at sci was lovely ( pains me to say it though as it was a 375 ).....and the two 450/400s were beautiful....you have me thinking ....and was good to meet you at the drinks party and chat next day on your stand

 

[jlb1036]

highly recomend using the 220 grs at 2300-2400 fps excellent for killing power and penetration
specially if you have the fmj old hornady with steel core/magnetic and the partition nosler 220 grs remember its all about shot placement-precission vs hyper velocity and that for the magnums ie 300 win/wby ect...

 

[mdsalern]

When do you expect this to be released?

 

[Dirtdart]

The 30-06 with a 180 grain Swift A-Frame has been a stellar performer in my experience. The 180 is about the perfect balance of weight and velocity for that cartridge IMHO.

 

[Nhoro]

I use 180 gr and 220 gr in my 30-06. Both are slow enough to use even cup and core bullets on smaller game. (Impala)I have a scope with distance graduations at 100,200 and 300 m. (Vortex). And i understand that round nose bullets like the woodleighs regulate well. As for performance, you can comfortably take an eland with the 180 - 220 gr bullets. Much better for bigger game than the 165 gr.

 

[AimSmall]

180gr, please.

Also, for a proper 2 year testing with the CEB 180 solids, please send a sample rifle to me.

 

[ActionBob]

An old favorite in Africa is 220 grain in a. 30-06. Reasoning as far as I can tell is that most shots tend to be under 200 yards, heck under 150. AND the versatility shows up in the slower velocity not blowing up the smaller critters while the penetration of that round shines for bigger animals.

Having said that, if you are going to regulate at ~175 yards. Go with 180 grain. It is a very common factory load in 30-06 so easy to find the World over.

 

[Tom Leoni]

When do you expect this to be released?

Hello, @mdsalern ~

It's already out. I'm happy to say that the little X4 has been fairly well received--obviously nowhere near like the Iphisi, but it's picking up.

Many if not most of you recommended the 180gr load, so this is what I went with. Currently they have a good supply of Federal Fusion 180gr, so I have asked them to start regulating the new batches with this load.

Incidentally, I have asked to make one for me already regulated with a 1-6x Zeiss Conquest, for the same load. I'll be taking it to New Zealand in a little over a year--red stag, ram, and Alpine goat. I am dead-set on taking a double, although a bolt would probably make more sense. For me, though, carrying a rifle that I love is half (or more) of the pleasure.

 

[ve7poi]

I am trying to decide on the default regulation of the Chapuis X4 double rifle in .30-06 that we have started offering. I've polled some writers and they tend to gravitate towards the 180gr load. Retailers point more towards the 165-168gr range, with a few actually choosing the 150.

Which weight would *you* prefer that a 22" barreled, 6.8lbs double in .30-06 be regulated for? Naturally, it can be fairly easily re-regulated, but I would love your opinion on the matter. Please feel free to recommend specific brands and bullet designs.

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Thank you in advance,

Tom

180 gr Barnes ttsx

 

[spike.t]

Hello, @mdsalern ~

It's already out. I'm happy to say that the little X4 has been fairly well received--obviously nowhere near like the Iphisi, but it's picking up.

Many if not most of you recommended the 180gr load, so this is what I went with. Currently they have a good supply of Federal Fusion 180gr, so I have asked them to start regulating the new batches with this load.

Incidentally, I have asked to make one for me already regulated with a 1-6x Zeiss Conquest, for the same load. I'll be taking it to New Zealand in a little over a year--red stag, ram, and Alpine goat. I am dead-set on taking a double, although a bolt would probably make more sense. For me, though, carrying a rifle that I love is half (or more) of the pleasure.

So when you bringing it here then Tom?....