Anyone run a muzzle brake-suppressor combo on a .375?

[spike.t]

Just why......

 

[BeeMaa]

I run a brake in my 7mm RUM and when using it on a plains game hunt I talked to my PH about it. He never voiced any negativity about me using one but I did encourage he and our tracker to use ear protection, which they did.
Ear protection is a simple solution for anyone around someone using a brake and at the end of the day, it should be used when shooting any firearm regardless of the caliber.

The PH isn’t going to voice any concerns with you, they will simply grin and bear it. Chalk it up to hazards of the profession, collect their fee and laugh behind your back when you leave.

Hunting with others (PH, tracker or just friends) and using a brake is damn inconsiderate IMO, regardless of the level of hearing protection. Using one on an indoor shooting range is another dick move.

 

[Red Leg]

I run a brake in my 7mm RUM and when using it on a plains game hunt I talked to my PH about it. He never voiced any negativity about me using one but I did encourage he and our tracker to use ear protection, which they did.
Ear protection is a simple solution for anyone around someone using a brake and at the end of the day, it should be used when shooting any firearm regardless of the caliber.

I am sure he didn't. I also am absolutely certain the tracker had no say in it one way or the other. I would suggest not using one of the things would be a far simpler solution - particularly on a 7mm.

 

[Red Leg]

The PH isn’t going to voice any concerns with you, they will simply grin and bear it. Chalk it up to hazards of the profession, collect their fee and laugh behind your back when you leave.

Hunting with others (PH, tracker or just friends) and using a brake is damn inconsiderate IMO, regardless of the level of hearing protection. Using one on an indoor shooting range is another dick move.

Or ten feet away on an outdoor one.

 

[WyoBull]

@BeeMaa and @Red Leg, I respect your guys opinions and did not realize using a muzzle brake was such a sensitive subject. I have used one for years on my 7 RUM (the only one I have) and am very cognizant of those around me wearing hearing protection when I shoot it. If I am at our outdoor range, I will separate myself from other shooters just for this reason.
Happy New Year to you guys!

 

[Red Leg]

@BeeMaa and @Red Leg, I respect your guys opinions and did not realize using a muzzle brake was such a sensitive subject. I have used one for years on my 7 RUM (the only one I have) and am very cognizant of those around me wearing hearing protection when I shoot it. If I am at our outdoor range, I will separate myself from other shooters just for this reason.
Happy New Year to you guys!

And I am likely reacting more strongly than I should, but I am not overstating in the slightest, the absolute visceral reaction of the vast majority of PH's and guides exposed to the things.

 

[Luminous Ham]

Thunder Beast now makes a 375 caliber suppressor with or without a muzzle brake.

https://thunderbeastarms.com/products/magnus

This seems to me one of the more less subjektive responses with facts and less opinions. The way I read the data, for a .338 LM caliber, 338 Ultra-RR, one gets a reduction in sound at shooters ear from 137 to 134 db using a sup+brake and down to 132 db using only sup. Makes sense to me that a bit added sound with brake, but still half the noise (3 db is half).

Recoil is reduced by 32% using sup only and by 54% using sup+brake. Also makes sense to me.

Let me know if I am reading this wrong.

 

[Hooknbullet2]

You’re reading it correctly. I received mine from them a month ago.
But still waiting on my R8 to arrive to test it.

 

[Forrest Halley]

This seems to me one of the more less subjektive responses with facts and less opinions. The way I read the data, for a .338 LM caliber, 338 Ultra-RR, one gets a reduction in sound at shooters ear from 137 to 134 db using a sup+brake and down to 132 db using only sup. Makes sense to me that a bit added sound with brake, but still half the noise (3 db is half).

Recoil is reduced by 32% using sup only and by 54% using sup+brake. Also makes sense to me.

Let me know if I am reading this wrong.

I believe you may be one of the few that's actually reading it correctly. Too many others see brake and are too concerned with voicing their visceral reactions to the brake.

I believe the OP wants to run a suppressor and was weighing the options of how to attach said suppressor. It sounded like either direct thread or QD with a muzzle brake adapter. Either way the gun will be suppressed.

The brake has its purpose at the range. It keeps a good distance between you, the other shooters, and the RSO. I'd not consider anyone a bad citizen for setting up next to a short barreled AR shooter and rocking them out of their mag-dumping tactical pants. I warn anyone setting up next to me that it's going to be oppressively loud any time I have a big rifle out brake or not.

I cannot see cutting the barrel on a .375. I feel like it takes away much of the energy when the velocity starts to wane at the muzzle.

 

[Challer]

Build tolerance by using duck loads in a break action shotgun. That 375 won’t ever be a problem

 

[Acopperdawg]

Man there is a lot of hate on here for muzzle breaks and suppressors. My question, is what is the harm in using a rifle with a removable brake or suppressor to practice and then throwing on a thread protector to hunt. everyone preaches shot placement and practice time at the range. Well, if I have the ability to shoot on my own away from others who might be impacted by a brake, why is it a bad thing to slap a brake on a gun and get some trigger time in? Also, if you can hunt with a suppressor on your gun, even in Africa, why wouldn't you? Perhaps it makes the barrel longer than some would prefer, but if you aren't the one carrying it and you aren't being forced to use it, who cares if the other guy in camp uses one. I think really we should all be encouraging others to get into the sport and shoot as much as possible.

 

[FlyGuy]

Everyone has an opinion on this rather contentious subject.
Here’s mine….
Muzzle Brakes:
Leave muzzle brakes for ELR rifles like 375 Cheytac, 50BMG etc.
They don’t belong on a hunting rifle.
Either cowboy up, or shoot something less powerful.
Suppressors:
They’re the best thing since the invention of the K98 action! Both for the shooter, and for the game we all claim to love.
The only time a suppressor doesn’t belong on a hunting rifle, is if it’s for DG, or if it’s a really beautiful classic with Grade 6 minimum Turkish walnut etc.
The new suppressors with the build in muzzle brake just make a good thing better.

About two years ago, I was sitting in a bowhunting hide, which as the crow flies, was about 600m from the shooting range on the neighbouring farm.
There were a lot of animals at the water hole, (warthogs, impala, mountain reedbuck, nyala etc.) and I was holding out for the big impala ram standing off to one side.

Suddenly, there was a shot from a suppressed rifle on the neighbouring shooting range and all the game at the waterhole were alert, but they didn’t run.
There was a second shot, and still the game didn’t run. They actually started drinking again and going about their usual business.

Then there was a shot from an unsuppressed rifle…
Every single animal around that waterhole was suddenly on edge, and they started moving back into the bush.
A second shot sent them running.
Not a single animal came to that waterhole for the rest of the day!

Unsuppressed rifle fire has a far bigger effect on the welfare of the game than we seem to think.

 

[Red Leg]

Man there is a lot of hate on here for muzzle breaks and suppressors. My question, is what is the harm in using a rifle with a removable brake or suppressor to practice and then throwing on a thread protector to hunt. everyone preaches shot placement and practice time at the range. Well, if I have the ability to shoot on my own away from others who might be impacted by a brake, why is it a bad thing to slap a brake on a gun and get some trigger time in? Also, if you can hunt with a suppressor on your gun, even in Africa, why wouldn't you? Perhaps it makes the barrel longer than some would prefer, but if you aren't the one carrying it and you aren't being forced to use it, who cares if the other guy in camp uses one. I think really we should all be encouraging others to get into the sport and shoot as much as possible.

I do not think there is any problem doing that so long as you aren't set up next to me on a range - and your rifle shoots to the same POI with it off. I could care less what some other guy in camp does with a suppressor.

However, I have no interest in using one in Africa (or for anywhere else but for varmint control). Most suppressors on most rifles turn them into something more closely resembling a surf rod than a hunting rifle. Secondly, I am unwilling to shorten a barrel to take one down to a boat rod size. Third, all of my African rifles have dismountable scopes and useful, regulated open sights. Finally, lots of the more interesting places in Africa do not permit them to be used.

 

[Challer]

Man there is a lot of hate on here for muzzle breaks and suppressors. My question, is what is the harm in using a rifle with a removable brake or suppressor to practice and then throwing on a thread protector to hunt. everyone preaches shot placement and practice time at the range. Well, if I have the ability to shoot on my own away from others who might be impacted by a brake, why is it a bad thing to slap a brake on a gun and get some trigger time in? Also, if you can hunt with a suppressor on your gun, even in Africa, why wouldn't you? Perhaps it makes the barrel longer than some would prefer, but if you aren't the one carrying it and you aren't being forced to use it, who cares if the other guy in camp uses one. I think really we should all be encouraging others to get into the sport and shoot as much as possible.

Because if you need relief from recoil, the muzzle brake doesn’t help you. Gun fit and weight will be your biggest assets

 

[BeeMaa]

Because if you need relief from recoil, the muzzle brake doesn’t help you. Gun fit and weight will be your biggest assets

...along with proper technique and practice. And then more practice.