Cost for Me To Take The Big 5

are places where success runs consistently high, abound 80-90%
Even the best Leopard hunters have low success in marginal areas, whereas the opposite is true for prime areas. Almost any PH can have success on Leopard in places like Niassa.
 
My point is set your vision then go after it as I have on your terms and no one else’s as long as it’s legal
This is great advice. You started a great thread.
Having a vision, and goal is the only way to achieve in time what a person sincerely wants.

Achieving big 5 for somebody, is equal to having a good PG hunt for somebody else.
You need to set the goal, not lose it from the sight, and each day make a small step towards it. Sometimes it takes years.
In financial terms, you clearly described that even big 5, arguably the greatest African or most famous African accomplishment, is achievable.

Congrats!
 
And yet no one thinks about spending nearly that on a vehicle every few years. Most Americans have more money than they think. It’s how you choose to spend it.
Car buying types are everywhere. I have friends in hunting community saying safari is expensive, but they drive new cars of such value - or more. I have nothing against that, but when they say it is too expensive, that Africa, they are just better drivers then hunters, by choice of priorities.
 
Even the best Leopard hunters have low success in marginal areas, whereas the opposite is true for prime areas. Almost any PH can have success on Leopard in places like Niassa.
Agreed. You are absolutely ‘Spot On’.

Where I hunted in the Selous, we had leopards everywhere. We hung baits in 7 trees and had cats feeding in 5 of them. We saw leopards twice in the middle of the day while checking baits. We saw tracks pretty much everywhere that we encountered sand or soft soil. The population and density there is ridiculous. I’ve heard the Niassa is similar.

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Good thread and discussion.
I’ve taken a good buffalo and elephant. Doing white rhino (vita dart) this summer.
Trying to decide between Zim and Namibia for leopard.
Lion? Would love to take one in Tanzania.
 
Good thread and discussion.
I’ve taken a good buffalo and elephant. Doing white rhino (vita dart) this summer.
Trying to decide between Zim and Namibia for leopard.
Lion? Would love to take one in Tanzania.
Research the annual harvest statistics of each country to identify the better option for you in that choice. Countrywide quota VS export quantity. That will guide your choice in the right direction.
 
I went to Tanzania with my wife and two other members of this site. We went with an Outfitter who is not widely known in these circles. He is a darker skinned fellow of Iranian decent who's family fled Iran a long time ago, a Muslim hunting with some devoted Christians and holdung sime very interesting and respectful discussions. A good man who has an outstanding area in Tanzania with an amazing population of big cats. He has long ago lost track of how many lions he has taken with clients and himself but the number is over 200. Leopard way more. We had great success. Unfortunately this Outfitter is fighting for his life against cancer right now and I fear if he loses that battle, his area may be lost as well. A real shame.

However the realavent point is that there are opportunities out there to hunt the big cats and especially leopard in truly outstanding areas with consistently high success. We baited extensively and took the 3 leopard we had on license and when we left camp there were 6 more still on bait with little effort put into the last half of our 21 day hunt. I had not been to Africa the 3 years before that hunt and it was another 3 before I got back. But what a hunt!
 
Big 5 is definitely more achievable than the 4 North American Wild Sheep!


I would love to kill a Rhino with a Bow and Arrow, but doubt that will ever be legal again :(
 
This whole ‘Big 5’ thread is interesting. I still don’t have the Big 5 or Dangerous 7, as I’ve never shot a Rhino. I’m fortunate to have all the others except Rhino.

In 1983, I went on my first African hunt and shot 3 of the Big 5 on that trip. I took an elephant bull, leopard and 2 buffalo. I also saw a fantastic lion and Black Rhino bull, both at less than 20 yards. This was with Roy Vincent on Deka, Zimbabwe. It was the first full safari conducted on Deka in a dozen years.

In 1986, I hunted Charara & Matetsi 3 in Zimbabwe and took another elephant bull, as well as bull and cow buffalo at Charara. I failed to take a lion despite giving it two weeks. We saw a number of lions, just not the right one. We also saw 5 Black Rhinos! 2 were single rhinos and then a group of 3 at about 25 yards…. A cow, her yearling calf and a very big bull. We were separated from them by a small stream and they never noticed us despite being close enough to hit with a thrown rock.

In 1989, I hunted Botswana, both the Kalahari Desert and Linyanti Swamps. Took a leopard on day one with the Bushmen by tracking it. Up north I shot 2 more buffalo and a lion. Saw some excellent lions but took a lesser cat on the 22nd day of my 24 hunting days. That lion gave me 4 of the Big 5.

After this, I had a long break from African hunting not returning until 2009 for a vacation and short hunt with Ernest Dyason’s Spear Safaris for plains game.

In 2019, I went on my next Dangerous Game hunt, to Maswa North in Tanzania. This was supposed to be a father-son buffalo hunt but due to me tearing my rotator cuff in my shooting shoulder the year before while trying to run down a poacher in Zambia, I wasn’t able to hunt. So, I got to enjoy watching my son on his first Buffalo hunt. He shot 2 bulls and I got to take pictures and pay the bill.

In 2021 I hunted Mlele South in far Southwestern Tanzania. This was the hunt where I failed to take a leopard in November. It was hot, there were baby bush pigs everywhere and cats were fickle. I shot a couple buffalo but struck out on leopard. Saw probably 60 bush pigs on this hunt!

In 2023 I had the great pleasure of taking my son to Madaba in Tanzania’s Selous Game Reserve. This was an epic safari, where I took 4 of the dangerous 7. My son and I took a pair of great old Dugga Boys together. I shot a leopard with my son sitting right beside me, so he got to experience the hunt. My son was also next to me on an intense dry land hippo where we were face to face with a bull in very thick cover at 15 yards. I shot that hippo on the run and my son barely refrained from joining in the shooting. Unfortunately, my son flew out of camp for home the day before I shot a croc on Lake Nyerere; but he got to participate in the croc hunt most of the way, including spotting a 14-15 foot croc that we nearly got killed.

So, I’ve been fortunate to take all of the Big 5/Dangerous 7 except Rhinoceros. I’ve never had any interest in a White Rhino and can’t afford one of the very few Black Rhino permits. I recently learned from one of our members that it is possible to dart a Black Rhino and I might do that someday.

Next trip is in May. Heading to Zim for a combination trip where I’ll be visiting several NGO’s that the Mzuri Wildlife Foundation has funded and seeing how they’re using the funding we’ve given them. I expect to see lions and black rhinos that they’ve radio collared as well as other interesting species. Then going to Hammond on the Savé Valley Conservancy for a buffalo hunt. I’ll be looking for an old broken down Dugga Boy while an 81 year old buddy will be looking for the biggest bull we can find him. We likely will see all of the Big 5 on this trip, even though only a couple buffalo will be shot. All of the Big 5 can be found on the SVC.
 
@michael458 will tell you it is much worse than a 50-50. Of course, I had one hitting the bait on day one and nabbed him on day 3 of baiting.
I hate Leopards, and I hate people that get one on the first try too...................And it happens, just not to me........ I spent over 70 nights in blinds, over 7 years, with 5 different PHs, in 5 different countries before getting lucky. I have had 3 pals hunt leopard and get them on the first day/night......... Yes, I hate all 3 of them.. LOL....Maybe 50/50, flip a coin, I just had to flip the coin 70+ times............

I have been fortunate, taking several elephant, buffalo, hippo, lion, crocodile, ONE LEOPARD.. never hunted leopard again I simply do not have the patience for leopard........ and as far as I care, here is my version of "Rhino".......... They say a Photo Says a 1000 Words, I also say a Photo SAVES many 1000s of $$ as well......... and all that is short on this photo is "Squeezing The Trigger", everything else is there, so I figure this will suffice for my version of "The Big Five"................

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