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Greetings MS 9x56,

I guess I should’ve typed within my original post / narrative, the Make & Model, instead of simply attaching a screen shot of the GunsInternational.com listing, (re-attached here below, again as Photo #1.) which, includes the make and model, however small print that it was.
At any rate, you are correct Sir.
Indeed it is a Savage, Model 1920, more commonly known as the “Model 20” .

Any way, the Model 20 Savage was a very good, yet affordable answer to the Pre-War Oberndorf, Model ‘98 Kurz (short action), controlled round feed, full length claw extractor and all.
The above mentioned, the little Model ‘98 Kurz Mausers in their day, (perhaps beginning during the 1920’s), were available from the maker in, among other calibers, the .250-3000 Savage.
Can you imagine what an original .250-3000, Oberndorf factory made, Model ‘98 Kurz Sporting Mauser, would cost today, in this unmolested and overall decent condition ?
Add a factory peep to the bolt shroud or cocking piece and I’d have to re-finance my house to buy such a Devine rifle.

My below attached photos 2. and 3. are of an original Kurz Mauser, factory made hunting rifle, in .250-3000 caliber.
I expect it might have sold for $6,000 to $8,000. US Dollars.
Not that I’m anywhere near being an authority on such things.
That amount is only a shade tree guess.

Anyway by your posts, I know you are a kindred spirit in favoring vintage rifles, very much like myself.

History Buffs Unite !
My satanic pocket computer (aka: “smart” phone), lately won’t let me post a little laughing face anymore.

Best Regards,
Velo Dog.
 

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Believe it or not I have wanted a model 20 for several years and actually passed on 2 ( one in 250-3000 and one in 300 savage but neither had the peep sight) to aquire my second model 98 proofed in 1937 in 8x57 (318 bore) 1/2 round 1/2 octagon barrel reciever engraved with oak leaves, double set triggers and fitted with a Lyman peep sight mounted on the bolt release lever. Eventually I will find my model 20 in 250-3000 with striker mounted peep sight. I must admit I have a special affinity for 100 year old hunting rifles in obscure calibers. Then getting them back in the field doing what they were made for. So far my greatest accomplishment was getting a Mannlicher Schoenauer model 1905 proofed in 1921 back into the field again. It really sooke to me on a wild boar hunt in Georgia. I wish I had a German hunting hat to wear on that hunt. I have since procured 2 of them for my next hunt with it. I also hunt with a 1920 manufacture Remington model 14 pump rifle in 30 remington. Both are great handling guns in the field and they both touch this old hunters soul. Sometimes I find myself just sitting and admiring them instead of watching for game.
 
I'm always on the hunt for unique rifles, and this one seems like a good value considering the components and history with it. Something a lot on this forum may appreciate considering the CZ magnum action, beautiful stock and long range capability - ends today!

CZ 550 Magnum 7.82 Warbird Bolt Rifle W/26.5" Bbl, Brass, Dies, Rings- 2010 - starting bid 1395​

 

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I'm always on the hunt for unique rifles, and this one seems like a good value considering the components and history with it. Something a lot on this forum may appreciate considering the CZ magnum action, beautiful stock and long range capability - ends today!

CZ 550 Magnum 7.82 Warbird Bolt Rifle W/26.5" Bbl, Brass, Dies, Rings- 2010 - starting bid 1395​

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Lazzeroni are still around and still support their cartridges too
 

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I think these early no longer made Kimber Model 89’s are very high quality, equal to the Dakota Model 76. This isn’t an auction it’s a buy now for $5500. If I didn’t already have a couple 416 Rigby rifles I would buy this.
 

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BJH65 said:

I think these early no longer made Kimber Model 89’s are very high quality, equal to the Dakota Model 76. This isn’t an auction it’s a buy now for $5500. If I didn’t already have a couple 416 Rigby rifles I would buy this.
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That Kimber of Oregon .416 Rigby is a heck of a good rifle for $5500!

Dwight of Sportsmans Legacy only deals in high quality firearms.
He is a supurb gentleman and one of us. I will gladly buy from him again.
 
"Shopping list" for Canadian members.

@Northern Shooter posted a link to EPPS in Orillia and I though I should expend the list and add some personal imput.
Last year, in December, I had corresponded privately with one esteem member of the Africa Hunting community (PH, author and forum member) and shared with him a list of Kilimanjaro Doctari rifles available at EPPS. He was extremely helpful and knowledgeable regarding these Kilimanjaro Doctari rifles. Once I finished my researched and made my own decision I had lifted my "personal embargo" on the existing stock and suggested that he shared "my" list with his Africa hunting friends. Within a week almost all rifles were sold out. (450 Rigby, 416 Rigby, 416 Rem., etc.)

(Full disclosure - the one that fitted me best and followed me home in the end was a Rigby Big Game 416 Rigby. 458 Lott is too much gun for me. Mr. Ralf Martini advised me that re-barreling the Heym is not a good ideea since the magazines and feeding rails are cartridge specific. Also, the Rigby lined up the open sights more naturally for me than the Heym did. I believe that Heym had the smoother bolt cycle).

Which bring us to the current stock of interesting rifles. Keep in mind these are Canadian dollars (about 70% in US dollars).
- Kilimanjaro Doctari No.3 - 458 Lott - includes the peep sight and the scope Z6i 1-6x24EE (circle dot) $13,750 Cad (https://kilimanjarorifles.com/gallery.html - no.35)
- Heym Martini Express - 458 Lott - Includes the scope bases but no rings or scope - 9,999 Cad
- Brno ZKK 602 - 375 H&H - $1,500 Cad
- Musgrave 83- 375 H&H - $2,7500 Cad
- Cogswell & Harrison - 375 H&H - $3,770 Cad
- Blaser R8 Kilombero - 375 H&H - this one was very interesting. To me it felt very heavy (I believe it was weighted at over 12lb empty without a scope and seemed muzzle heavy) - $15,672 Cad
- several Dakota Arms 76 (416, 450 Rigby and 458 Lott).


Enjoy:
ellwoodepps.com

Ellwood Epps Sporting Goods

Online shopping in Canada for hunting supplies, new and used firearms and bows, rare gun parts and obsolete ammunition. A great selection of fishing, camping and shooting supplies in our Orillia stores, north of Barrie, Ontario.
ellwoodepps.com ellwoodepps.com
 

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V.Veritas said:
"Shopping list" for Canadian members.

@Northern Shooter posted a link to EPPS in Orillia and I though I should expend the list and add some personal imput.
Last year, in December, I had corresponded privately with one esteem member of the Africa Hunting community (PH, author and forum member) and shared with him a list of Kilimanjaro Doctari rifles available at EPPS. He was extremely helpful and knowledgeable regarding these Kilimanjaro Doctari rifles. Once I finished my researched and made my own decision I had lifted my "personal embargo" on the existing stock and suggested that he shared "my" list with his Africa hunting friends. Within a week almost all rifles were sold out. (450 Rigby, 416 Rigby, 416 Rem., etc.)

(Full disclosure - the one that fitted me best and followed me home in the end was a Rigby Big Game 416 Rigby. 458 Lott is too much gun for me. Mr. Ralf Martini advised me that re-barreling the Heym is not a good ideea since the magazines and feeding rails are cartridge specific. Also, the Rigby lined up the open sights more naturally for me than the Heym did. I believe that Heym had the smoother bolt cycle).

Which bring us to the current stock of interesting rifles. Keep in mind these are Canadian dollars (about 70% in US dollars).
- Kilimanjaro Doctari No.3 - 458 Lott - includes the peep sight and the scope Z6i 1-6x24EE (circle dot) $13,750 Cad (https://kilimanjarorifles.com/gallery.html - no.35)
- Heym Martini Express - 458 Lott - Includes the scope bases but no rings or scope - 9,999 Cad
- Brno ZKK 602 - 375 H&H - $1,500 Cad
- Musgrave 83- 375 H&H - $2,7500 Cad
- Cogswell & Harrison - 375 H&H - $3,770 Cad
- Blaser R8 Kilombero - 375 H&H - this one was very interesting. To me it felt very heavy (I believe it was weighted at over 12lb empty without a scope and seemed muzzle heavy) - $15,672 Cad
- several Dakota Arms 76 (416, 450 Rigby and 458 Lott).


Enjoy:
ellwoodepps.com

Ellwood Epps Sporting Goods

Online shopping in Canada for hunting supplies, new and used firearms and bows, rare gun parts and obsolete ammunition. A great selection of fishing, camping and shooting supplies in our Orillia stores, north of Barrie, Ontario.
ellwoodepps.com ellwoodepps.com
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It's such an unassuming store that punches above it's weight in the dangerous game/safari rifle category. You would assume that one of the GTA stores would be the ones carrying these high value rifles as that's where all the money is.

Epps is the only store in this country I have ever seen a 505 Gibbs and 500 Jeffery in stock, as well as the odd double rifle and robust big bore ammo collection.
 
Holland and Holland Magazine Rifle - 375HH - $28,900
https://ellwoodepps.com/hunting/fir...lt-action-magazine-rifle-127207.html?___SID=S

Tod Ramirez Custom Rifle - 500 Jeffery - $27,900
https://ellwoodepps.com/hunting/firearms/todd-ramirez-premium-custom-rifle.html?___SID=S

J.P. Smithson Custom Rifle - 505 Gibbs - $14,400
https://ellwoodepps.com/hunting/firearms/j-p-smithson-custoim-505-gibbs.html?___SID=S

Rizzini Rhino Express - 470 NE - $12,500
https://ellwoodepps.com/hunting/fir...ver-pistol-grip-beavertail-case.html?___SID=S

Heym Express - 458 Lott - $9,999
https://ellwoodepps.com/hunting/firearms/heym-express-deluxe-magazine-rifle-458-lott.html?___SID=S

Dakota 76 African - 450 Rigby - $9,495
https://ellwoodepps.com/hunting/firearms/dakota-arms-76-african-custom.html?___SID=S

Dakota 76 African - 416 Rigby - $7,899
https://ellwoodepps.com/hunting/firearms/dakota-arms-76-african.html?___SID=S

Dakota 76 PH - 458 Lott - $5,999
https://ellwoodepps.com/hunting/firearms/dakota-arms-76-professional-hunter.html?___SID=S

Sako 85 Brown Bear - 500 Jeffery - $4,800
https://ellwoodepps.com/hunting/firearms/sako-85-brown-bear-sights-hinged-floor-plate.html?___SID=S

It's the AH wet dream, especially when you consider the exchange rate for you Americans.
 

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MS 9x56 said:
Believe it or not I have wanted a model 20 for several years and actually passed on 2 ( one in 250-3000 and one in 300 savage but neither had the peep sight) to aquire my second model 98 proofed in 1937 in 8x57 (318 bore) 1/2 round 1/2 octagon barrel reciever engraved with oak leaves, double set triggers and fitted with a Lyman peep sight mounted on the bolt release lever. Eventually I will find my model 20 in 250-3000 with striker mounted peep sight. I must admit I have a special affinity for 100 year old hunting rifles in obscure calibers. Then getting them back in the field doing what they were made for. So far my greatest accomplishment was getting a Mannlicher Schoenauer model 1905 proofed in 1921 back into the field again. It really sooke to me on a wild boar hunt in Georgia. I wish I had a German hunting hat to wear on that hunt. I have since procured 2 of them for my next hunt with it. I also hunt with a 1920 manufacture Remington model 14 pump rifle in 30 remington. Both are great handling guns in the field and they both touch this old hunters soul. Sometimes I find myself just sitting and admiring them instead of watching for game.
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I say, Good Show to all of that.
And, I wish you luck on locating just the right Pre-War .250 Savage, Model 20, proper era aperture sight on the cocking piece and everything just right.

Deer hunting with a Remington Model 14 slide action rifle in .30 Remington ya, I’m envious.
Almost bought one in .35 Remington, about 30 years ago.
But in a fit of stupidity, I talked myself out of it, because I already had a vintage Marlin Model 336, in that caliber.

My little Marlin was in excellent shape but, so old that it was not drilled and tapped for scope bases. (Mid to Late 1940’s perhaps)?
It did have a vintage Redfield receiver / peep sight on it and was quite accurate.
With it and a Remington factory loaded 200 grain RNSP, I shot the last deer I have taken in Alaska to date.

That was on Prince of Wales Island, about 20 years ago.
My friend, Cal Pappas eventually talked me out of that rifle only a very few years before he died unexpectedly.

Remington Slide Action aka: Pump Action rifles…..
I’ve always liked them.
Once upon a time I owned a Model 760 Remington in .300 Savage, also equipped with a Redfield receiver sight.
With that one, I shot the largest antlered Caribou of my many tundra adventures, with 150 gr factory loaded Slivertip bullets (two shots through the bull’s heart & lungs).
Upon the first shot, he stopped walking and my 2nd shot caused him to belly flop and quit right there.

Anyway, I’m rambling now as old folks tend to do when they remember how things used to be.
Therefore, I shall gittyup and start cooking dinner.

My apology to everyone for derailing this thread.

Cheers.
 
Velo Dog said:
I say, Good Show to all of that.
And, I wish you luck on locating just the right Pre-War .250 Savage, Model 20, proper era aperture sight on the cocking piece and everything just right.

Deer hunting with a Remington Model 14 slide action rifle in .30 Remington ya, I’m envious.
Almost bought one in .35 Remington, about 30 years ago.
But in a fit of stupidity, I talked myself out of it, because I already had a vintage Marlin Model 336, in that caliber.

My little Marlin was in excellent shape but, so old that it was not drilled and tapped for scope bases. (Mid to Late 1940’s perhaps)?
It did have a vintage Redfield receiver / peep sight on it and was quite accurate.
With it and a Remington factory loaded 200 grain RNSP, I shot the last deer I have taken in Alaska to date.

That was on Prince of Wales Island, about 20 years ago.
My friend, Cal Pappas eventually talked me out of that rifle only a very few years before he died unexpectedly.

Remington Slide Action aka: Pump Action rifles…..
I’ve always liked them.
Once upon a time I owned a Model 760 Remington in .300 Savage, also equipped with a Redfield receiver sight.
With that one, I shot the largest antlered Caribou of my many tundra adventures, with 150 gr factory loaded Slivertip bullets (two shots through the bull’s heart & lungs).
Upon the first shot, he stopped walking and my 2nd shot caused him to belly flop and quit right there.

Anyway, I’m rambling now as old folks tend to do when they remember how things used to be.
Therefore, I shall gittyup and start cooking dinner.

My apology to everyone for derailing this thread.

Cheers.
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Now I am envious as I would like to have a 760 in 300 savage.
 
Mtn_Infantry said:
Can’t help but notice every couple weeks you plug Simpsons on this thread and in a few of your other posts
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Indeed I keep an eye on their site for antique guns ....so always check the long guns when I am there
 
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