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[RR 314]

It’s a nice gun but why do so many of these rifles have a 13 1/2 inch pull? Way to short for me.

HH

Because you are an ogre. . I prefer longer LOP, but can shoot 13.5” comfortably on varmint rifles such as the .375 H&H. . My .404 J and up start at 14.5”.

 

[elkocountygun]

It’s a nice gun but why do so many of these rifles have a 13 1/2 inch pull? Way to short for me.

HH

good point, possibly to be used in brush where 1 may have to move fast in a difficult situation like charge...just offer my thoughts

 

[RR 314]

good point, possibly to be used in brush where 1 may have to move fast in a difficult situation like charge...just offer my thoughts

13.5" LOP is "standard" in the US as manufacturers have determined it is acceptable to a majority of shooters (think 5'8" to 6') off the rack. Odd that it has not increased over the years. Not uncommon for European manufacturers to start at 14+".

 

[Beck]

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1097654797

 

[elkocountygun]

45-70 is a rimmed cartridge. There are doubles in 45-70

This is going to overly simplify it and isn’t 100% accurate but think about a revolver or shotgun. You have a rim that sits on the back preventing the cartridge from dropping forward and further into the chamber, but also providing something for the extractor to take hold of. Think about some of the most common revolver calibers 38spc, 357mag, 44spl, 44mag, etc they all rimmed. You can get revolvers in non rimmed cartridges but you’ll normally need something like a moon clip to hold the rounds. Not 100% accurate but trying to think of some examples that might make sense for firearms you own or have experience with

good info and thx. helps much

 

[elkocountygun]

With the belted magnum, they had to come up with a way for the extractors to snap into place between the belt and the rim in order to extract the cartridge. With a rimmed case, the rim rests on the extractor.
Pic 1-shows the small protruding "bump" that is spring loaded. This snaps into the grove between the belt and the rim.
Pic 2-pointing at this "bump" which is part of the extractor.
Pic 3-I am depressing it so you can see it is spring loaded. The belt must push past this when cartridge is inserted so it has to be able to drop down.
Pic 4-These are the extractors for rimmed cartridges. A lot more metal for the rim to sit on. No "bump" to fail. Exactly like a double barrel shotgun.
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very good. info and great pictures help explain much. very nice DG double. thx for the help.

there is very good info in this thread, post and on this website. amazing volume of solid information. thank you all

 

[elkocountygun]

13.5" LOP is "standard" in the US as manufacturers have determined it is acceptable to a majority of shooters (think 5'8" to 6') off the rack. Odd that it has not increased over the years. Not uncommon for European manufacturers to start at 14+".

That’s a great visual demonstration.

I suspect that the issues arising with non rimmed cartridges come from a weakened spring/bump. Not willing to risk it happening in the field because that can happen at any time.

13.5" LOP is "standard" in the US as manufacturers have determined it is acceptable to a majority of shooters (think 5'8" to 6') off the rack. Odd that it has not increased over the years. Not uncommon for European manufacturers to start at 14+".

i was sure it was 14+ and i am on the 6' end of scale. i like the ogre post joke i read on here a ways back. thx for info.

 

[ActionBob]

Here is a deal

 

[franzfmdavis]

Here is a deal
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The “1” looks like more like a Turkish Lira symbol so Ill take it

 

[pedersencopycat]

Seems like a pretty good deal

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1099396137

 

[Rare Breed]

Here is a deal
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What is price, caliber, etc. Am I missing it?

 

[pedersencopycat]

Oh whoops forgot to include the information. It is in 6.5x55, and currently the bid is at $615, buy now price is $1,325. this probably doesn't belong here actually, sorry about that

 

[pedersencopycat]

it's a cz 550 full stock, essentially new in box

 

[Scott CWO]

What is price, caliber, etc. Am I missing it?

Well, Bob & Gina are in London so…

 

[Rare Breed]

lol!!! I forgot Scott!

 

[BonUm16]

What is price, caliber, etc. Am I missing it?

Yes. All the answers are right there on the hang tag…

 

[Scott CWO]

lol!!! I forgot Scott!

@ActionBob is a very modest and very successful man... Wendy and I have spent a lot of time with Bob & Gina at SCI. They are real gems. I hope they post some things about their trip. Bob and I have been texting about it. That's all I am going to say...

 

[ActionBob]

Scott it was a pleasure texting. We did have a tour of Holland and Holland's factory today and I think that may be the highlight of our trip sp far. The Craftsmen (and Women) we met are all true artists in their own ways.

 

[ActionBob]

Yes. All the answers are right there on the hang tag…View attachment 677980

So there was a visit to the retail shop by a couple of tourists from Texas

A Holland and Holland Royal Double Rifle currently has a 5.5 year waiting list if ordered new and at a price of £185,000. Or roughly $240,000 at the exchange rate during the visit. This was right as Trump made the "Liberation Day" announcement and the World seemed to lose it's collective minds. Although the chaps (Charlie and Luke) at H&H were not phased and pounted out that Great Britain was already under Tarriffs of roughly half the 10% they recieved.

Turns out the lovingly beautiful wife put in an offer on the afore mentioned rifle at a considerable discount to the asking price

Early the next week, said offer was accepted Turns out Charlie convinced the seller that the economic sky might be falling and such an offer should not be passed again. (An identical offer had apparently been turned down some months earlier.) Then as luck would have it. The exchange rate also backed down a bit by the time it was needing to be paid.

 

[BonUm16]

So there was a visit to the retail shop by a couple of tourists from Texas

A Holland and Holland Royal Double Rifle currently has a 5.5 year waiting list if ordered new and at a price of £185,000. Or roughly $240,000 at the exchange rate during the visit. This was right as Trump made the "Liberation Day" announcement and the World seemed to lose it's collective minds. Although the chaps (Charlie and Luke) at H&H were not phased and pounted out that Great Britain was already under Tarriffs of roughly half the 10% they recieved.

Turns out the lovingly beautiful wife put in an offer on the afore mentioned rifle at a considerable discount to the asking price

Early the next week, said offer was accepted Turns out Charlie convinced the seller that the economic sky might be falling and such an offer should not be passed again. (An identical offer had apparently been turned down some months earlier.) Then as luck would have it. The exchange rate also backed down a bit by the time it was needing to be paid.

That’s fantastic, Bob.

I only recently registered but have been reading AH for a number of years. One of the things I have taken away in that time is that you and Gina both seem to have hit the lottery.

Enjoy the rest of your time in England.