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[Kevin Peacocke]

Been there done that with my first DR that was a 470 and underweight. Miserable to shoot. I sold it bought appropriate weight and never looked back

What was the weight of the miserable one RB?

 

[Rare Breed]

I want to say 9.3

 

[Rare Breed]

Nearly kicked me to death. My 500 NE is 11 pounds and is a pussy cat. I can shoot it all day

 

[Hunting Hitman]

Nearly kicked me to death. My 500 NE is 11 pounds and is a pussy cat. I can shoot it all day

I totally agree. My Heym 470 NE is right at 11 pounds and is more of a push than a kick. I tend to like a little more weight on my DG rifles and do not mind the extra weight while walking in the bush.

HH

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

There is so much more that goes into felt recoil than just the rifle weight, like fit, recoil pad type, recoil pad width. The oly way to be absolutely sure is to fire the rifle and assess it for yourself.

 

[Daniel Cary]

An 89B in .500 was sold back to Heym, .. a few months back?

The owner claimed it was too Heavy post a Hunt, Idk the weight.

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

An 89B in .500 was sold back to Heym, .. a few months back?

The owner claimed it was too Heavy post a Hunt, Idk the weight.

If it was a Gross Box it would have been around 12 pounds. If it was an Africa frame about 10 pounds.

 

[Daniel Cary]

If it was a Gross Box it would have been around 12 pounds. If it was an Africa frame about 10 pounds

If it was a Gross Box it would have been around 12 pounds. If it was an Africa frame about 10 pounds.

that much of a difference? .. I'll be. Thank you Kevin, as always. That would've been the 1st used 89B to be.

 

[Daniel Cary]

If it was a Gross Box it would have been around 12 pounds. If it was an Africa frame about 10 pounds.

that much of a difference? .. I'll be. Thank you Kevin, as always. That would've been the 1st used 89B, to be.

 

[Tokoloshe Safaris]

12 lb. .500 Gross box to heavy. 10 lb. .500 African to light 11lb. to 11lb. 2oz African about right.

Unless they just bore out the .450-.400 bbl. like they do with the .470 resulting in the .470 being lighter than the .450-.400.

Lon

 

[SStomcat]

If one can’t learn to shoot a double that’s .75 lbs lighter than standard via some practice, perhaps a 375 bolt gun is just what the doctor ordered.

Question is is it worth paying 20K for a rifle that is not pleasant to shoot or less than ideal weight and have to adapt or get something that fits.

 

[SStomcat]

Does the weight of the bullets and slings (leather ones can add 8 oz or more) factor in?
My 470 weighs in at 10.8 pounds and I feel it is enough weight for me to hold at my shoulder and carry. I'm 6', 200 pounds so not small by any means.
Wonder how someone can lug 13 plus pounds of weight all day long and shoot precisely..

 

[Inline6]

Does the weight of the bullets and slings (leather ones can add 8 oz or more) factor in?
My 470 weighs in at 10.8 pounds and I feel it is enough weight for me to hold at my shoulder and carry. I'm 6', 200 pounds so not small by any means.
Wonder how someone can lug 13 plus pounds of weight all day long and shoot precisely..

Training, it is nothing more than that. I have an 80# pack and carry a 20# kettle bell in each hand and walk for miles like that. We don't have inclines in south Texas. It is the best training I can give myself for elk hunting. It crosses over into Africa too. Just walking with kettle bells will help you, when you are in the bush with a 12# rifle.

 

[rookhawk]

I can't speak to the goofy things that people do with double rifles, but I can share that Heym did make a few lightweight 470s. They were about 9.5lbs. They sold them to two markets:

1.) The professional that carrys it all day and shoots it rarely.
2.) Clients that are going to hunt with dangerous game scopes.

My 9.5lb 470NE weighs exactly 11lbs with its 1-4x Schmidt & Bender in claw mounts attached. (The way it left the Heym factory). If I was faced with a low-light follow up on a buffalo or elephant, you better believe I'd have that scope off and would simply endure the harsher recoil in exchange for the faster acquisition for a snap shot on a potential charge.

Mine was made for a particular type of buyer (a client gun) and was built to honor the 11lb rule of a 470NE in that configuration. I prefer this to an after-thought gun that weights 12.75lbs or more because somebody decided to put a scope on after the fact.

Bottom line, have a plan and get the gun made to that plan, afterthoughts are never very good thoughts.

 

[Paul G]

There is so much more that goes into felt recoil than just the rifle weight, like fit, recoil pad type, recoil pad width. The oly way to be absolutely sure is to fire the rifle and assess it for yourself.

Stock shape also

 

[tygersman1]

Question is is it worth paying 20K for a rifle that is not pleasant to shoot or less than ideal weight and have to adapt or get something that fits.

It’s all relative. One guy’s 20k is another guy’s 5k to another guy’s 100k.

None of us are going to use a double rifle to the extent a professional hunter will. Fact is almost every one of us as hunters is likely better off with a $5k (or less) scoped factory bolt set up than whatever highly priced double rifle (fitted or otherwise). But it’s traditional and super cool, and we want what we want. If you’re asking me whether that 1lb or less means anything to me money wise, then nope.

I’m going to practice until I’m proficient with a double whether it weighs 10lbs or 11lbs. It’s just not that big of a deal considering the fact that I’m already way better with a bolt (and the vast majority of us will be) because I grew up using one constantly. And I have other better tools to kill everything besides all but the largest dangerous game (which I hunt occasionally).

think everyone should get to hunt whatever animal they want with whatever appropriate tool they want to use. I’m just clarifying that 1 lb or less just isn’t a big deal considering the grand scheme of things. And you’ll likely be carrying and using it rarely - yet, still carrying it much more often than using it.

I would also be fine if it was a nice 470 double and weighed 12.5 lbs. Would I prefer it to weigh less, sure. But again, all things considered, as mentioned by another poster, you can just train a little harder to carry a heavier double.

Lighter, Goldilocks, or Heavier (within reason), all will get the job done with a bit of training and proficiency.

 

[Flewis]

Training, it is nothing more than that. I have an 80# pack and carry a 20# kettle bell in each hand and walk for miles like that. We don't have inclines in south Texas. It is the best training I can give myself for elk hunting. It crosses over into Africa too. Just walking with kettle bells will help you, when you are in the bush with a 12# rifle.

How much time on a sling and not in your hand?

 

[SStomcat]

Training, it is nothing more than that. I have an 80# pack and carry a 20# kettle bell in each hand and walk for miles like that. We don't have inclines in south Texas. It is the best training I can give myself for elk hunting. It crosses over into Africa too. Just walking with kettle bells will help you, when you are in the bush with a 12# rifle.

Training, it is nothing more than that. I have an 80# pack and carry a 20# kettle bell in each hand and walk for miles like that. We don't have inclines in south Texas. It is the best training I can give myself for elk hunting. It crosses over into Africa too. Just walking with kettle bells will help you, when you are in the bush with a 12# rifle.

I believe you, but cant get around the fact that you have to log 120 pounds to practice carrying a 12 pound rifle.

 

[Inline6]

How much time on a sling and not in your hand?

Depending on where we hunt, at the end of the day. I personally rather train harder and hunt comfortably. If you are in the thick stuff rifle is in hand. Walking from spot to spot is different. Just depends.

I believe you, but cant get around the fact that you have to log 120 pounds to practice carrying a 12 pound rifle.

Maybe I did not do a good job of explaining, that I do for elk hunting. When you pack in for a week it is a little weight. We are in flat land, so to offset that to the best of my abilities I load up the weight. It never hurt me to put some work in. It is better on my knees than running on top of that.

If someone wanted to train to carry a rifle, kettle bells would be just fine. It sounds like a lot, start light and work your way up. You will be surprised what you can accomplish. I'm not a crazy fit person, 6' - 190. When I was younger, I was the same weight just at 9% body fat. Hahaha not the case now.

 

[Rare Breed]

12 lb. .500 Gross box to heavy. 10 lb. .500 African to light 11lb. to 11lb. 2oz African about right.

Unless they just bore out the .450-.400 bbl. like they do with the .470 resulting in the .470 being lighter than the .450-.400.

Lon

You are correct