Modern loads for 7x57 but using Supplies I have

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I am very low on Components for most stuff and that includes 7x57, in the meantime I'll have to use what I've got for this season's hunting.

Guess this is a more what should I load to hunt with since all will work for whitetail deer and possible black bear, I'll post what I have and we can talk what Maybe the best of make the most sense. I normally like 140s but ran out and like to get a few hundred speer 145 hot cors, but when I have found them there $30+ a 100 and my mind and pocket won't compute lol.

Rifle is a ruger ts 77 22"

Bullets. .Ct
Hornady 120 spire point. .50
Nosler 120 solid base btsp. .57
Barnes 120 ttsx. .50
Hornady 120 A-max. .50
Hornady 154 spire point. .60
Nosler 175 partition. .50
Hornady 175 round nose. .100

For powder really the only I have to make enough loads is imr 4350

Primers im very low, have about 100 wlr and like 50 Federal.

Brass is Remington

So you can see in just about out more then 2 years has done it's toll and with money so tight hard to resupply. So what would you load up.
 
You don't specify the ranges that your normally hunt if normally not over 150 yards I would use the 175gr Hornady running at around 2450fps +- you have most of them and how many deer bear will you be shooting finding a load 20 odd rounds to be used and then have 80 to hunt with which will keep you ready to hunt for quite a few years.
 
Of the bullets that you have, the Hornady 154 gr would be my choice for deer & bear. 4350 should work well with the brass and either primer,unless the feds are 215, in which case they are overkill and I'd stick with the WLRs
ya there 215s the 154 are the old spire points that have the high ojive I was holding them for it I get a 7mauser with a mile long throat since some you can't seat out far enough to get best accuracy some time with bullets lighter then 175.
 
You don't specify the ranges that your normally hunt if normally not over 150 yards I would use the 175gr Hornady running at around 2450fps +- you have most of them and how many deer bear will you be shooting finding a load 20 odd rounds to be used and then have 80 to hunt with which will keep you ready to hunt for quite a few years.
Shots anywhere out to 450 ish, hunt a bunch of different places but mostly edges of farm fields of somewhat open woods what may still have 300 yard shots.
I was going to load the rn 175 for days were I'd be hunting spots were I can't reach out.
 
My M.98 loves the 154 Hornady and 49 grains of IMR-4350 shooting them into a MOA or less. Follow all safety procedures and work up to it of course.
 
With your limited components, rather than loading bullets for different situations, load up one that can handle it all. I’d go with the 154gr Hornady, with the 120gr Barnes as my second choice.
As others have said, the WLR primers are the way to go.
 
With your limited components, rather than loading bullets for different situations, load up one that can handle it all. I’d go with the 154gr Hornady, with the 120gr Barnes as my second choice.
As others have said, the WLR primers are the way to go.
Ya will kinda be a do everything load, I never used the Barnes copper and don't have any confidence in them so was saving to use in my 7wsm to get the most speed possible.
 
Ya will kinda be a do everything load, I never used the Barnes copper and don't have any confidence in them so was saving to use in my 7wsm to get the most speed possible.
I’ve used Barnes often. I use a 140gr in a 7-08 carbine (~2650 fps). Performs well. However, I think going lighter is the way to go for lighter game.
 
I'd use the 175s, until you cross the 300 yard line they shoot flat enough to not have to hold off hair. I shot a nice white tail doe this year at a ranged 130yds. The 175gr Horn. RN entered just behind the near shoulder broke the off shoulder leaving a 3" exit hole. She went 30yds, fell in sight & was, dead when she fell. I like 175s.
 
I’ve used Barnes often. I use a 140gr in a 7-08 carbine (~2650 fps). Performs well. However, I think going lighter is the way to go for lighter game.
I just don't like how most are found under the hide, I like a passthru two holes are always better then one. Tho I shoulder shoot so maybe does not matter so much. I do want to try the hammer bullets, I like how they open but the base keeps going.
 
I'd use the 175s, until you cross the 300 yard line they shoot flat enough to not have to hold off hair. I shot a nice white tail doe this year at a ranged 130yds. The 175gr Horn. RN entered just behind the near shoulder broke the off shoulder leaving a 3" exit hole. She went 30yds, fell in sight & was, dead when she fell. I like 175s.
Ya the old round nose are deadly, probably over kill for deer but should open at lower speeds.
 
Hi,

Two bullests-modern loads favorites of mine. Not maximum and entirely safe in your Ruger:
Cases Winchester or NORMA, not Remington, std primers 154 Hornady 50 gr 4350, for 2750 f/s
Cases Winchester or NORMA, not Remington, std primers 175 Nosler P 45 gr 4350 for 2500 f/s

Good luck

CF
 
The 175Gr Nosler Partition gets my vote for use on everything from whitetail deer to black bear. In my own Churchill Gunmakers 7x57mm Mauser, I’ve recently begun using Sellier & Bellot’s 175Gr Nosler Partition factory load (having purchased five boxes of this ammunition during a recent trip to Germany) and am quite satisfied. It can cleanly drop huge sambar stags with shots from any angle.
 
Hi Hunter-Habib,

Me to!! For my uses, the 175 gr Nosler Partition is the Number One. It can be loaded, in a good modern rifle with the apropiate powder, at 2650 f/s without any problem and very good cases life.
 
HDY 154 ideal for longer range deer and the Nos 175s for deer and bear. IMR 4350 was made for the 757 and 06 sized cases. What ranges do you intend to shoot? What part of USNY? For the 150s and 160s book max is 48 and 46 gr (so 47ish) and 45 gr for the 175. Seating depth will determine accuracy, though you can't go wrong starting with a factory std COAL. Even that 175 at 2550+ fps (4350) is good to well beyond 300 yds AND its SD (penetrating power) is precisely the same as a 220 gr bullet out of a .30 cal. ;) If you're not going to encounter any big bear, the 150ish gr is fine (the Nos PT is a better terminal performer than the others, however.) I really like my 757 AI. Loading up a bunch of 175s this summer for black bear with the son in the Fall (using my AI and his SAUM.) You'll find the 154 will outshine the 175 at distance (less drop, increased V and E) but the 175 will be a better performer when the bullet strikes (again suggested at <300, but run a ballistic calculator and you'll find it's likely good to 500 with such a good BC-0.520.) Nobody's going to shoot a 600-<900 lb black bear by me at more than 300 yds (let alone 50-150 with the ground cover they prefer.) Deer are another proposition altogether, out in the farmlands...If longer shots on deer, considering working up separate loads for each bullet and simply record the scope adjustments necessary to dial from one to another (likely a simple elevation adjustment.) You may find that the 150s are 3" high at 100 and the 175 is closer to dead-on (in which case-no adjustments are required in the bear vs. deer scenario.) Good luck! The loads below were chosen, as the V approximates same of max book loads using IMR 4350 (which is often the most accurate powder for the 757 case.)
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Speaking as a 7x57 owner, I can say what you NEED is GS custom banded bullets--you can safely increase velocities at least 100 fps without raising pressures AT ALL. That makes a big difference. Plus, custom orders are probably a lot easier to come by than off the (empty) shelf. Try it, you'll like it.
 
*120 gr std bullets not recommended in 7 for either deer or bear (but you'd get away with deer, esp. if the shoulder wasn't hit.) It's a very low SD varmint bullet that may fragment to hell on the surface upon impact. Could be a very short drag (you) if used on bear in the thick stuff!
 
Our (Son & I) favorite, short-bbl woods deer/bear combo uses 200 gr NPs in an 06. That 175 7mm is actually more bullet (ballistically, in every way than a 180 gr .30) but our load at 2550 fps (precisely what you'll get out of the max handload of 4350 in the 7) performs PHENOMENALLY, because the (virtually similar) bullet performs all of the work...We've taken deer to 300 (1x scope is the limiting factor) and never scoped a bear beyond 25-150 in the thick swamps and woods.
 

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