Mozambique Hunt Specials For Last Quotas 2018

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

Perhaps I missed it, (or CITES has not updated the listing), but I can not find CITES QUOTA for 2018.

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

Brickburn, so are you saying I am offering this hunt with false info?

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

The document that you provided is certainly not to be relied upon. Please contact CITES to clarify with them directly if the United States has resumed the international trade in Hippopotamus trophies from Mozambique.

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

I made no such accusation.

A few years ago TMS was offering a hunt in Mozambique and without their knowledge CITES had not yet issued quota for the species on offer. After thanking me for the heads up, TMS contacted the appropriate hunting association, who then contacted the appropriate government department. The government of Mocambique had not filed the required documentation with CITES, which was subsequently corrected, and the quota was issued.
Just wondering if this is a repeat!
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From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

View attachment 227619

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

Another operator I contacted about a hippo hunt in Mozambique said they are not exportable.

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

Who would be the PH doing these hunts? I wonder if these is someone just trying to move someone else's quota and maybe not told the whole truth on all the facts? Maybe it changed but I thought hippo was still a no from Moz.

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

I have no dog in this fight, @BRICKBURN brought up what happened with me, I had official quota from the government, but government hadn't applied to cities,, luckily Wayne brought it up. Managed to get the paperwork done.

Hippo have been opened. But! Quota allocation is a bit undesirable. No quota Cahorra Bassa and Southern Mozambique.

If I read this offer, I would understand southern Mozambique, you able to drive there from OR Tambo.

Before anyone jumps the gun, simple solution, post the official documents to prove that you have official quota. End of story, then no one can speculate.

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

I can only find quota for Leopard(120) on the website, I have sent them an e-mail, lets see if we can get the facts.

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

I sent an email to CITES. They referred me to:

Please contact the CITES authorities in Mozambique directly, they will be able to answer your questions. Their contact details are:

Ministry of Land, Environment and Rural Development
National Administration of the Conservation Areas

Mr. Francisco Augusto Pariela

Av. 10 de Novembro, 40
Praceta 1196

MAPUTO

Tel: +258 (21) 34 18 00; +258 827 49 35 00 (Cell. phone)

Fax: +258 (21) 30 63 12

Email: fpariela @ gmail.com

As well as:

Dear Sir,

Many thanks for your e-mail.

The CITES Secretariat has published on its website the voluntary national export quotas at the request of the CITES Management Authority of Mozambique, copied on this e-mail.

Please contact Mr. F.A. Pariela for further queries.

Best regards.

The Secretariat

I did that and have had no reply from Mr. Pariela.

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

Yip, no response from the Moz authorities rings the wrong bell. For the sake of the outfitter offering as well as the hunter wishing to book, it would be best to have a clear cut official answer or document.

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

The proof is in the pudding. I even tried to phone Francis, no response, sent whatsapp message no response even shows the message was read.

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

The collective knowledge on AH continues to impress me! Thank you gentlemen!

From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:regina.lennox@conservationforce.org]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
To: umlilosafaris@kirkwood.co.za
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA

Dear Francois,

You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.

Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.

Hope that helps,
Regina and John

Conservation Force
3240 S I-10 Service Road W, Suite 200
Metairie, Louisiana 70001 USA
504-837-1233 (office)
919-452-8652 (cell)
regina.lennox@conservationforce.org

 

[IvW]

Conservation force is just another organization, they do not issue the CITES export permits from Mozambique.(CITES are a member of this organization.)

Correct, the trade suspension for Hippo was lifted in Mozambique, question is if the Mozambique authorities have done their homework and are actually in a position to issue the CITES.

Mr. Francisco Augusto Pariela is the one who can confirm this but as above he is not responding,Ministry of Land, Environment and Rural Development National Administration of the Conservation Areas, which is a major concern.

Who would be the PH doing these hunts? I wonder if these is someone just trying to move someone else's quota and maybe not told the whole truth on all the facts? Maybe it changed but I thought hippo was still a no from Moz.

Where is this hunt taking place?

Why the need to post the same reply 12 times? also seems odd to be quite honest. Once would have been enough to bring the point across.

 

[UMLILO SAFARIS]

Conservation force is just another organization, they do not issue the CITES export permits from Mozambique.(CITES are a member of this organization.)

Correct, the trade suspension for Hippo was lifted in Mozambique, question is if the Mozambique authorities have done their homework and are actually in a position to issue the CITES.

Mr. Francisco Augusto Pariela is the one who can confirm this but as above he is not responding,Ministry of Land, Environment and Rural Development National Administration of the Conservation Areas, which is a major concern.



Where is this hunt taking place?
Why the need to post the same reply 12 times? also seems odd to be quite honest. Once would have been enough to bring the point across.

What is odd is that it seems we are being made out as trying to sell a product that doesnt exist..... Thanks for counting my replies. Your comment: 'also seems odd' clearly states your opinion. You are free to post what you like on our adds, so please award us the same. I suggest you look at out website, our facebook page, you tube and read on internet about our history.....why on earth would we offer a product falsely in the first place, and secondly why would we choose AH plus Facebook as marketing platform for such a non-existent product. After 17 years as Outfitters believe you me, illegal hunts or non-existent products is not what made us successful! As fellow South African lvw, what is your objective here really?

 

[IvW]

What is odd is that it seems we are being made out as trying to sell a product that doesnt exist..... Thanks for counting my replies. Your comment: 'also seems odd' clearly states your opinion. You are free to post what you like on our adds, so please award us the same. I suggest you look at out website, our facebook page, you tube and read on internet about our history.....why on earth would we offer a product falsely in the first place, and secondly why would we choose AH plus Facebook as marketing platform for such a non-existent product. After 17 years as Outfitters believe you me, illegal hunts or non-existent products is not what made us successful! As fellow South African lvw, what is your objective here really?

Main objective is to get the facts on the table.

So just put the facts on the table then it will all be clear.

I am not implying that you are not offering a legitimate hunt but what you have presented here does not point out the facts of this hunt.
Your website, youtube,FB and your history does not clear up this offer.

I have hunted Mozambique in different areas under different circumstances. I have been taken for rides by Moz outfitters and concession/block holders on more than one occasion. Corrupt officials are always an issue.

I would hate to see your outfit or a client being caught.

Yes, Hippo & Croc both exportable to USA, got the all clear on 3 Moarch 2018 when the ban was lifted.
Meeting point is OR Tambo Airport then we travel together
$175 / day for observer

Post the official documentation where you got the "all clear" from Moz authorities and for which area or part of Moz?

Driving from OR Tambo, means Southern Moz(unless the drive is for 2-4 days), no quota in Southern Moz for Hippo.

Where is the hunt conducted in Moz? What is your allocated quota?Who is the outfitter/concession holder? Who is the PH? Confirmation from Moz authorities that they are in a position to issues the CITES permits as they are not responding to emails?

Lifting the ban is just the first step to hunting Hippo in Moz. Getting the paperwork to export them is a different issue.

As you mention you have been in the business 17 years it should be easy to provide the facts.

Not sure how long you have been offering hunts in Moz but things there are not always what they seem.

I am sure if you provide the relevant detail everybody will be able to see and make up their own minds with regards to this offer.

With the detail provided here I, personally would not book this hunt.

 

[GuttormG]

Where does it say that they will drive from ORTambo?

 

[IvW]

Meeting point is OR Tambo Airport then we travel together

That implies driving from there.

Pamphlet sais: Airport pick-up drop-off(nearest according to the hunt area)

There is no mention of further flights or other airport in Moz or charter which further implies, Southern Moz unless they have their own private charter plane from OR Tambo to wherever.

I am sure Umlilo will provide you with the correct details but the way I read it and the info provided, it means driving from OR Tambo.

 

[MarcoPani]

The fact that you have posted several times a reply from Conservation Force that simply says that is possible to import hippo trophies into the USA, does not mean that the trophy would be exported from Moz unless is coming from one of the areas that have received a quota ( which is probably being revised).

So, please, in which area your hunt will take place?

Your response will be highly appreciated.

Thanks