My Mauser failed me

[Ontario Hunter]

@Ontario Hunter
Buying gun parts off E BAY is fine until you go to pay for it then it comes up CAN'T SHIP TO AUSTRALIA.
How do I know this, because I have tried. Dang can't even get a set of iron sights out of America to Australia.
Bob

Same problem here. It's actually the US govt not allowing gun parts to be shipped outside the country. The workaround, that usually works, is to have a US address that will accept your shipment and then have it sent on to you from there. However, using a foreign credit card can also trip a red flag sometimes. I do have a US credit card on US Bank to cover all bases. When the item is forwarded on to you from intermediary, it should be repackaged as something generic. Checkering tools could be declared on customs tag as "hobby modeling tools" which is not incorrect. Obviously some items would be more problematic to repackage. A gun barrel labeled as "pipe" could be risky. I wouldn't attempt shipping an action or receiver or bolt as something else. Other gun parts ... well ... be creative with repackaging. A P14 bolt shroud could be sent on as a "part for jig to machine manhole covers." How many customs inspectors have ever seen a machining jig for making manhole covers? "Hmmm. Yeah okay. Looks like something for a machine shop. Oh look, it's time to go powder my nose."

Shipping parts for guns that are banned in the recipient's country is just making an already bad situation worse. Get caught and they can throw away the key as far as I'm concerned.

 

[BlueFlyer]

Buying gun parts off E BAY is fine until you go to pay for it then it comes up CAN'T SHIP TO AUSTRALIA.

SARCO in the US were still shipping parts to Australia last year - I hope that has not changed.
Then you need to be careful with Australian Border Force as some parts need an import permit. Magazine components including W springs, M17 bolt, K98 triger all got pull up, but I was able to get the necessary permits and received them after a couple of months of paperwork and delay. Stocks also need an import permit. Best to buy local if possible.

 

[Grumpy gumpy]

I may or may not have had a barrel sent as a "precision ground internal spiral tube" from an irrigation supply company.
Gumpy

 

[BlueFlyer]

If you get your spiral tubes from an Athletics company in SA, there is no risk of any problems with the shipment. Always best to support a local supplier where possible.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Let's see what your bolt face looks like. You may have some crap accumulated in the extractor race? Mine is definitely British made by all the proof marks. No maker specified so presumably neither Remington or Winchester. I checked my bolt face diameter and is very precise. 404 rim is just barely larger than 303 and I can manually force 404 onto the bolt face. But very tight fit! Just for giggles I slipped the bolt back into receiver with a 404 dummy round captured on the bolt face. Dropped the floorplate so I could get the blunted follower out of the way and then gently closed the bolt as far as I could (about halfway). I wanted to see if the action had enough room to eject 404. It does. Looks like this could be a relatively easy build. Remove a tiny bit from the bolt face (a very tiny bit), switch to longer M17 mag box and reshape as needed (they are stamped metal so easily modified), and reshape loading ramp and feeding rails as needed. Seems the biggest obstacle is getting rid of those damn ears for rear sight. And rebating the receiver so it will release the barrel.

@Ontario Hunter
Mine is a Remington Eddystone version made in the USA.
As far as I know no P14s were ever made in England they didn't have the facilities as they were geared up to manufacture the SMLE. The P13 in .276 was sent to the USA to be made but the advent of WW1 made that a no go and it was modified to handle the 303 British and became the P14.
When England caught up with production of the No1 Mk111 SMLE they cancelled the order for more P14s and paid the company out and said thank you.
This left a heap of parts left over and when America entered WW1 they didn't have enough 03 Springfield so modified the P14 to handle the 30/06 and called it the M17.
I could be wrong but to the best of my knowledge they were only made by Remington, Eddystone and Winchester.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I am assuming it was rebarreled, being it is a .25 caliber. It sounds to me that the recess in breech on new barrel wasn't cut correctly to give the extractor room to move "outboard" far enough to snap over rim.

@roklok
Yes it is a rebarell and everything was done to minimum specs, even the head spacing for accuracy reasons.
It doest worry me that it doesn't snap over the case as if the game is still standing after five shots it deserves to live. That would mean my shooting has turned to shit and I have missed.
Bob

 

[Grumpy gumpy]

If you get your spiral tubes from an Athletics company in SA, there is no risk of any problems with the shipment. Always best to support a local supplier where possible.

Yes, I use that "athletic " company when I can, helps if your friend knows them well, but sometimes you have to go where the part is, sometimes you just need to change the original design
Gumpy

 

[CoElkHunter]

@Ontario Hunter
Mine is a Remington Eddystone version made in the USA.
As far as I know no P14s were ever made in England they didn't have the facilities as they were geared up to manufacture the SMLE. The P13 in .276 was sent to the USA to be made but the advent of WW1 made that a no go and it was modified to handle the 303 British and became the P14.
When England caught up with production of the No1 Mk111 SMLE they cancelled the order for more P14s and paid the company out and said thank you.
This left a heap of parts left over and when America entered WW1 they didn't have enough 03 Springfield so modified the P14 to handle the 30/06 and called it the M17.
I could be wrong but to the best of my knowledge they were only made by Remington, Eddystone and Winchester.
Bob

Won’t the extractor on your M17 snap over the rim of your .25-20 cartridge?

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Same problem here. It's actually the US govt not allowing gun parts to be shipped outside the country. The workaround, that usually works, is to have a US address that will accept your shipment and then have it sent on to you from there. However, using a foreign credit card can also trip a red flag sometimes. I do have a US credit card on US Bank to cover all bases. When the item is forwarded on to you from intermediary, it should be repackaged as something generic. Checkering tools could be declared on customs tag as "hobby modeling tools" which is not incorrect. Obviously some items would be more problematic to repackage. A gun barrel labeled as "pipe" could be risky. I wouldn't attempt shipping an action or receiver or bolt as something else. Other gun parts ... well ... be creative with repackaging. A P14 bolt shroud could be sent on as a "part for jig to machine manhole covers." How many customs inspectors have ever seen a machining jig for making manhole covers? "Hmmm. Yeah okay. Looks like something for a machine shop. Oh look, it's time to go powder my nose."

Shipping parts for guns that are banned in the recipient's country is just making an already bad situation worse. Get caught and they can throw away the key as far as I'm concerned.

@Ontario Hunter
The stupidity of it is you can ship stuff to the USA. I sent one member a barrel and cases.
The package was labelled steel pipe and brass casings, well reasonably accurate description.

Other members have needed projectiles, they were sent as experimental gas plugs, expanding and no expanding. Projectiles are gas plugs aren't they. After all they do stop the gas expanding uncontrollably. The gas can be allowed to escape in a controlled fashion.

I need a set of iron sights from the USA. They were sent as a leveling tool.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

SARCO in the US were still shipping parts to Australia last year - I hope that has not changed.
Then you need to be careful with Australian Border Force as some parts need an import permit. Magazine components including W springs, M17 bolt, K98 triger all got pull up, but I was able to get the necessary permits and received them after a couple of months of paperwork and delay. Stocks also need an import permit. Best to buy local if possible.

@BlueFlyer
When I imported my Boyd's stocks no paperwork needed an no worries as the stocks were under the $100 limit. Now Boyd stocks are over $100 and they won't export to Australia. Iv had triggers sent over from rifle basix and Huber concepts and they just sent them as spare parts no problems at all
I did have to have a B709 form to import a pre chambered Douglas competition barrel. Even that was no problems. Sent the B709 to the shipper in the states and it was delivered to my door. No questions.
Bob

 

[BlueFlyer]

Sent the B709 to the shipper in the states and it was delivered to my door. No questions.

Yes, my mistake was that I did not get the B709 first.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

@Ontario Hunter
Mine is a Remington Eddystone version made in the USA.
As far as I know no P14s were ever made in England they didn't have the facilities as they were geared up to manufacture the SMLE. The P13 in .276 was sent to the USA to be made but the advent of WW1 made that a no go and it was modified to handle the 303 British and became the P14.
When England caught up with production of the No1 Mk111 SMLE they cancelled the order for more P14s and paid the company out and said thank you.
This left a heap of parts left over and when America entered WW1 they didn't have enough 03 Springfield so modified the P14 to handle the 30/06 and called it the M17.
I could be wrong but to the best of my knowledge they were only made by Remington, Eddystone and Winchester.
Bob

This rifle appears to be Eddystone Arsenal. Only identification on the locking ring is "ERA" Has a whole bunch of British proof marks. Serial # is 410K