Non-American ammo manufactures that produce big bore ammo?

[dlmac]

We're all adults here, we know that these are not the real reason these tariffs are being imposed. That's just the cover.

The tariffs are in place are for political bargaining chips. Mexico figured it out very quickly.

 

[dlmac]

Like the man said, Back on Topic.
I have really been thinking about a small company making ammunitions for classic calibers, not the new whiz, sexy, got to have it crowd. In hunting dead is dead, can't be any more dead. So, what would it cost for a group like AH members to start a company for selected medium and large bore ammunition?

 

[coreydb]

The tariffs are on a 30 day pause, but the Canadian PM stepped up to the plate with the US.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Far less than that. 43lbs in 2024 at the northern border vs just under 22,000lbs at the southern border.

So ... is it worth it to throw the stock market into chaos because of 43 lbs of fentanyl over 12 months? That's what ... less than 3.5 lbs per month. Oh my! Makes no sense. Like appointing an anti-vax nut to run the Dept of Health. What next? Anti-gun kook to head ATF? Chaos.

 

[Aaron N]

Like the man said, Back on Topic.
I have really been thinking about a small company making ammunitions for classic calibers, not the new whiz, sexy, got to have it crowd. In hunting dead is dead, can't be any more dead. So, what would it cost for a group like AH members to start a company for selected medium and large bore ammunition?

Taking a Quick Look, it seems like 7-8 separate machines are needed for just the brass production.

Case Manufacturing - D&M Holding Company

D&M: Provider of turnkey case manufacturing solutions utilizing cup and wire methods. Precise, proprietary case production equipment designed for your specific requirements, civilian or military.

www.dmholding.com

 

[Ontario Hunter]

The tariffs are on a 30 day pause, but the Canadian PM stepped up to the plate with the US.

I think the actions of the provincial premiers had more impact. They weren't interested in talking to that clown. Conservative Premier Ford ordered all US booze in Ontario off the shelves today. Retalitory tariff wasn't good enough for him. The province was willing to absorb the cost of destroying the existing inventory. Ford just bought himself another term in office. Quebec premier said he was making it impossible for US companies to get contracts ... and US utilities contract for a lot of Quebec power! And finally, the European Union was siding with Canada. Trump has Americans convinced the US can survive in splendid isolation. The stock market tells a different tale.

Whatever fool thinks food is more expensive up here has NOT been shopping in the US recently.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Like the man said, Back on Topic.
I have really been thinking about a small company making ammunitions for classic calibers, not the new whiz, sexy, got to have it crowd. In hunting dead is dead, can't be any more dead. So, what would it cost for a group like AH members to start a company for selected medium and large bore ammunition?

You would need to own an insurance company. Liability risk is just too high.

 

[dlmac]

You would need to own an insurance company. Liability risk is just too high.

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of partnerships or contracts with existing customs case makers and the like. Many companies have private label products made for them. One very smart man once told me never manufacture something that you can have done by someone else. No labor issues, no storage and little inventory storage. That is why China has an economy. Insurance is necessary, but loads keep moderate and good quality control is there for a reason. It will not keep you from getting sued, but certainly helps you win. Yes, there will always be the occasional dog and pony show in a courtroom

 

[dlmac]

What calibers would be in most demand? There are plenty 375 H&H out there.
1. 450/000
2. 470
3.?

 

[Northern Shooter]

What calibers would be in most demand? There are plenty 375 H&H out there.
1. 450/000
2. 470
3.?

For dangerous game? 375 HH, 416 REM, 458 WM and 470NE.

 

[grand veneur]

What calibers would be in most demand? There are plenty 375 H&H out there.
1. 450/000
2. 470
3.?

The thread is about big bores and not about cartridges caliber 9,3mm or the cartridge 375 H&H Magnum. Nonetheless, there are a lot of different big bore cartridges also in use nowadays so that it is difficult to say what is needed above all. In the past, the cartridge 458 Winchester Magnum clearly dominated the market, but somethings have changed since the nineties. There are certainly some big bores that are used more than others, but the list has become much longer in the meantime, so it is better to mention the big bore cartridges that are hardly or not used at all anymore. You also have to take into account that big bore ammunition is very expensive and rather than buying factory loads, owners of such rifles load their ammunition. At last not forget the customers of the big companies like H&H, Purdey, Westley Richards ...and so, whose ammunition is supplied with the rifle. A market for different cartridges that is also difficult to estimate.

 

[BlueFlyer]

One very smart man once told me never manufacture something that you can have done by someone else.

The frustration is that down here we have Bertram Brass, Woodleigh Projectiles and ADI propellant, so if there could be a reliable agent in the US we have all the components needed.
Bruce was looking at loading some "boutique" cartridges but it was not stacking up financially.