Politics

[Red Leg]

I agree with you.. like I said earlier.. I dont think our problems are solely to blame on one generation or another..

they are the sum of the whole.. building blocks that have simply made a larger and larger and more complex problem to solve over the course of numerous generations..

That's correct. After all, people like me created those like @mdwest. Fortunately I could not have had any responsibility for @spike.t .

 

[Randy F]

FWIW, as a very early GenXer that survived raising a couple of millennials, there will always be those fairly pointless generational arguments used to point fingers at whatever societal issues of the day might be. Whether it's been about music, hair length, clothing style, or Ford vs Chevy, every generation has it's "these kids nowadays" and the "those old farts" comments. That'll never change.

Every generation has had a hand in it. It comes from the freedoms we have that were so painstakingly fought for. We're all taught to think and fend for ourselves. Go get your dream. Well the good and not so great consequences of that is that we all can and do think for ourselves.

No matter what your generation label is, think about all that's changed in your lifetime. For me it was small farms, single family incomes, chores to do morning and night, and hell bent on just being kid until you were called for supper. No cell phones or computers. No 24 hour cartoons or video games. Can I honestly tell myself that I wouldn't have partaken had they been available? Of course not.

By the time I was raising my own rascals, society had changed enough that those things I grew up knowing and doing were already past. Well crap. I can't raise them exactly like I had it because it no longer exists. No new parent has any experience. We all just do the best we can with what we feel is "right" at the time and try raise thoughtful, respectful human beings that we hope will contribute to society.

So you do everything you can until they hit puberty and you suddenly become the biggest idiot on the planet. Then what? By the time they've graduated from high school, they spent the last couple of years believing they're adults capable of taking on the world and just trying to get laid. By that point you've pushed the roller coaster to the top and all you can do is hang on and maybe lean into some of the corners.

Enter 24 hour access to cell phones and social media. If there is anything that can and will f up the best laid parenting efforts, well, there they are. I can't really fault them for forming their own opinions and expressing them when that's what I tried to instill. I am very thankful that both of mine ended up being very good productive people but that certainly doesn't mean we agree on everything. I can't say the same for some of the other parents my age who can barely have a conversation with their children. That's just sad.

Anyway, I guess the point is that it's the same old blame game if we let it be so. And what if we did? Would the situation be any different if all other generations were satisfied if one were accept the fault for all the worldly woes? Probably not.

Change occurs. We have to work with it and do our best to influence the influencers. Otherwise we'd all still be huddling around a radio for a Saturday night western mostly oblivious to what's happening outside our own neighborhoods.

Hey wait...

 

[LivingTheDream]

Generational arguments...almost like some people made up some dates to try to separate people in a way to divide us further.

I have been told I am a geriatric millennial, so I got that going for me.

 

[LivingTheDream]

Also, we have had this thread open back up for 12 hours, we need to keep it together guys!!

 

[spike.t]

Also, we have had this thread open back up for 12 hours, we need to keep it together guys!!

Obviously was asleep in our time zone I presume when it was put in the sin bin....as didn't know anything about it

 

[Randy F]

Also, we have had this thread open back up for 12 hours, we need to keep it together guys!!

Hey! Don't blame us you geriatric millennial brat!!

 

[Tundra Tiger]

I guess technically - and yes, I had to look this up - I am a GenXer by a very narrow margin: 1966. To listen to the checkout folks at our local grocery store, I apparently can pass for a boomer.

That said, I find it a whole lot easier to embrace a philosophy on life made popular by the late, great Patrick McManus, that doesn't need to be assigned to a particular age range. I am proud to say I am a curmudgeon. It works for me, splendidly. YMMV

 

[mdwest]

I guess technically - and yes, I had to look this up - I am a GenXer by a very narrow margin: 1966. To listen to the checkout folks at our local grocery store, I apparently can pass for a boomer.

That said, I find it a whole lot easier to embrace a philosophy on life made popular by the late, great Patrick McManus, that doesn't need to be assigned to a particular age range. I am proud to say I am a curmudgeon. It works for me, splendidly. YMMV

the older I get the more curmudgeony I get.. I think I crossed that rubicon about 10 years ago lol..

 

[LivingTheDream]

Obviously was asleep in our time zone I presume when it was put in the sin bin....as didn't know anything about it

Well, since you slept through it, everyone blamed you for the timeout.

 

[Newboomer]

FWIW, as a very early GenXer that survived raising a couple of millennials, there will always be those fairly pointless generational arguments used to point fingers at whatever societal issues of the day might be. Whether it's been about music, hair length, clothing style, or Ford vs Chevy, every generation has it's "these kids nowadays" and the "those old farts" comments. That'll never change.

Every generation has had a hand in it. It comes from the freedoms we have that were so painstakingly fought for. We're all taught to think and fend for ourselves. Go get your dream. Well the good and not so great consequences of that is that we all can and do think for ourselves.

No matter what your generation label is, think about all that's changed in your lifetime. For me it was small farms, single family incomes, chores to do morning and night, and hell bent on just being kid until you were called for supper. No cell phones or computers. No 24 hour cartoons or video games. Can I honestly tell myself that I wouldn't have partaken had they been available? Of course not.

By the time I was raising my own rascals, society had changed enough that those things I grew up knowing and doing were already past. Well crap. I can't raise them exactly like I had it because it no longer exists. No new parent has any experience. We all just do the best we can with what we feel is "right" at the time and try raise thoughtful, respectful human beings that we hope will contribute to society.

So you do everything you can until they hit puberty and you suddenly become the biggest idiot on the planet. Then what? By the time they've graduated from high school, they spent the last couple of years believing they're adults capable of taking on the world and just trying to get laid. By that point you've pushed the roller coaster to the top and all you can do is hang on and maybe lean into some of the corners.

Enter 24 hour access to cell phones and social media. If there is anything that can and will f up the best laid parenting efforts, well, there they are. I can't really fault them for forming their own opinions and expressing them when that's what I tried to instill. I am very thankful that both of mine ended up being very good productive people but that certainly doesn't mean we agree on everything. I can't say the same for some of the other parents my age who can barely have a conversation with their children. That's just sad.

Anyway, I guess the point is that it's the same old blame game if we let it be so. And what if we did? Would the situation be any different if all other generations were satisfied if one were accept the fault for all the worldly woes? Probably not.

Change occurs. We have to work with it and do our best to influence the influencers. Otherwise we'd all still be huddling around a radio for a Saturday night western mostly oblivious to what's happening outside our own neighborhoods.

Hey wait...

Well said, Sir. As one who entered this world in 1940 what would you call me? Maybe I'm one of the old farts who can sit back and either shake my head or laugh at you younger generations and all your perceived problems and catastrophies. Most, or all of which, are of your own making. I can safely say that I had the best of times except for the Korean glitch. The Fabulous 50s were just that. The world was at relative peace, America was thriving amidst the baby boom and life was simple and good before all the gadgetry and gimmickry.

Nevertheless, each generation begets some good amongst the chaos. Scientifically, medically, technologically, all for our benefit. It has and continues to make the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA the best of the best.

 

[Flipper Dude]

I guess technically - and yes, I had to look this up - I am a GenXer by a very narrow margin: 1966. To listen to the checkout folks at our local grocery store, I apparently can pass for a boomer.

That said, I find it a whole lot easier to embrace a philosophy on life made popular by the late, great Patrick McManus, that doesn't need to be assigned to a particular age range. I am proud to say I am a curmudgeon. It works for me, splendidly. YMMV

Anyone who knows and appreciates Patrick McManus is an honorary boomer to me. Welcome

 

[PARA45]

We are just a bunch of grumpy old bastards, and @spike.t is the leader.

 

[Randy F]

I guess technically - and yes, I had to look this up - I am a GenXer by a very narrow margin: 1966. To listen to the checkout folks at our local grocery store, I apparently can pass for a boomer.

That said, I find it a whole lot easier to embrace a philosophy on life made popular by the late, great Patrick McManus, that doesn't need to be assigned to a particular age range. I am proud to say I am a curmudgeon. It works for me, splendidly. YMMV

I confess I too had to look it up...and 1966 for me as well...and grew up reading McManus...and if a label is required, that curmudgeon thing fits better than most that can be repeated without another thread timeout.

 

[spike.t]

To change the subject....I just can't believe how fkd the UK is....I find this just unbelievable......anger inducing....

 

[PARA45]

To change the subject....I just can't believe how fkd the UK is....I find this just unbelievable......anger inducing....

Not surprised at all. When I lived in FL, we had a Home Owners Association, and to display the American Flag, I was supposed to write a request. I never did, got a couple of violations, went to one of the meetings and raise hell, almost everyone in the meeting was on my side. The following year the by-laws were rewritten and the US flag was ok to display without having to ask for permission.

 

[Randy F]

To change the subject....I just can't believe how fkd the UK is....I find this just unbelievable......anger inducing....

Unbelievable. The Green Party guy says it’s unfair to have any flag displayed without realizing just how unpatriotic and ungrateful his his statement is to all those that have defended it.

The question should not be whether or not to allow your own flag to be displayed in your own country but rather whether or not it should be mandatory.

 

[SvenHoek]

Well as I have never understood, or really given a fk about all these generational classifications....thank you for letting me know I am a boomer.....all I can say to @SvenHoek is sit on it and swivel....as I am being good and trying to abide by the rules.....which for me is really fkn difficult....... ...and p.s. you sound like you have a redwood on your shoulder...not just a chip.........can't be told off for that as its available in the smiley section...just saying....

No worries puddin boy. Go back to your budlight and goyslop hungryman dinner and keep pretending everything is fine. I don't appreciate you.

 

[Randy F]

I can already hear the sound of leather being pulled through the belt loops of Brickburn’s jeans.

 

[HuntingGold]

Indeed

 

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