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[Brent in Az]

Trump should take that money and use it to buy the border wall sections at auction.

I hope he does

 

[CoElkHunter]

There’s some bs going on there, someone is having a bit of sport. Those big ones can be tracked. Airport Surveillance Radar can track a couple geese. And that’s old tech.

I think the drones might be coming from a farm in Grovers Mill, New Jersey? The Death Spell Caster posting on here says so. LOL

 

[Hunter4752001]

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Two Russian tankers sink in Black Sea spilling more than 4,000 tonnes of oil

Two Russian tankers in the Black Sea have been badly damaged due to stormy weather. A video shot from inside one of the vessels appears to show part of a tanker ripped from the body of the craft, and sinking down into the water.

news.sky.com

 

[mark-hunter]

Old news. few days old.
It is worth saying, this is not "Exon Valdez" type and magnitude of accident. But it is serious.
Those type of vessels (that look ugly, and substandard) are dual use vessels, designed for river and sea-coastal navigation - thus the specific design. Not deep sea vessels. They dont cross Oceans. Draught 3-4 meters.
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Due to shallow draft requirement for the rivers they generally have small capacity, and thus, small crew.
Master, chief engineer, one deck officer, and deck and engine hands, with cook (ratings).
(as opposed to average 20-25 crew for large deep sea vessels with full crew complement - master, 3 deck officer, ch eng with two engine officers and ratings, draught 15 plus meters)

Those are vessels details and pictures:

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:347163/mmsi:273333930/imo:0/vessel:VOLGONEFT_212

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:348458/mmsi:273354600/imo:0/vessel:VOLGONEFT_239

 

[HookMeUpII]

makes sense….
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I never would have guessed it but some local politicians here in NJ have said "give us answers or we may encourage them to be shot down." Whether that means citizens or LEOs? Who knows.

What they are speculating these things to be now is unsettling to say the least. I've now begun to fear the drones themselves less, and the idea of why they might be here more.

This is more of a lighthearted site, but the guy who wrote this is ex-military (I believe) and gives an interesting explanation with details:

The Hottest, And Most Terrifying, Theory Going Around About The Mysterious Drones Flying Over New Jersey Is Basically The Plot Of The Movie "Sum of All Fears"

New Jersey, the land of Wawa, diners, and now, apparently, allegedly, mystery drones scouring the night skies for a lost nuclear warhead. Or dirty bomb. Because why wouldn’t the Garden State, already ...

www.barstoolsports.com

 

[Hunt anything]

Let’s see, one of the few white players in the WNBA says she achieved her success through “white privilege”. That is laughable in just about any major sport being played today except for maybe ice hockey. There must have been some extreme pressure put on her from the league. IMO the WNBA is nothing more than a charity, it has not made a profit in its entire existence.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Interesting story telling of a 2018 event in Syria.

 

[Altitude sickness]

Yes, this was 2017-2018 the US Army sent in some Bad Hombres to kill every ISIS member they could find. And they laid waste to most of them and ElBagdadi.

You didn’t hear much about it unfortunately. those guys deserve to be recognized for killing a lot of ISIS fighters on their own ground

 

[flatwater bill]

@375 Ruger Fan Good article. Didn't see it covered locally. Environmental damage from warfare is often an overlooked collateral. 4000 tonnes (4400 short tons) sounds like a lot to me....but I guess compared to 500,000 tons of methane from Nordstream it is small....thanks for posting....FWB

 

[Datchew]

I understand the angle and concern of the drones "sniffing" for radiation but if someone was at a sufficiently capable level to get a nuke or dirty bomb in the area, I would think they're savvy enough to shield it from detection.

Lead is effective, versatile, and cheap

 

[Safari Dave]

Yes, this was 2017-2018 the US Army sent in some Bad Hombres to kill every ISIS member they could find. And they laid waste to most of them and ElBagdadi.

You didn’t hear much about it unfortunately. those guys deserve to be recognized for killing a lot of ISIS fighters on their own ground

Pray for those "Bad Hombres"

I know a couple, and all of them have a tough time dealing with what they had to do back then.


How are you supposed to deal with being a cold blooded killer, then transition into being a loving family man???

I hope Trump issues an unlimited debit card to all of our Vets who had to go into war zones, and bypass the VA.

 

[Safari Dave]

I understand the angle and concern of the drones "sniffing" for radiation but if someone was at a sufficiently capable level to get a nuke or dirty bomb in the area, I would think they're savvy enough to shield it from detection.

Lead is effective, versatile, and cheap

Tungsten isn't quite as cheap, but when delivered by a Ranger with a Benelli M4 from a Blackhawk, would do the job just fine, with only a mild hail storm for those down below.

 

[fourfive8]

Lead- For shooting down a drone or encapsulating radioactive material?

For shooting them down, I had the same thought about a couple of door gunners with shotguns on high performance choppers. Even 1 1/2 oz standard 12 ga load of #6 lead, steel, bismuth or tungston would take one out. Or retrofitting something like an F16 or A10 with short burst guns loaded with small shot ammo. The falling shot damage potential would be minimal with only the falling drone being somewhat of a problem. The greatest hazard might be flying into your own shot pattern and causing some engine damage. There would have to be some zone of fire restrictions and flying rules. But guaranteed, the government would classify a falling drone as an extreme hazard akin to a crashing B-52… just like the nonsense of calling a Chinese spy balloon falling over unoccupied, western US range land an extreme hazard. Followed of course by Brandon foolishly wasting resources and risking pilots trying to shoot down every weather and hobby balloon for the next month… trying to look tough. Corn Pop

 

[Certus]

@375 Ruger Fan Good article. Didn't see it covered locally. Environmental damage from warfare is often an overlooked collateral. 4000 tonnes (4400 short tons) sounds like a lot to me....but I guess compared to 500,000 tons of methane from Nordstream it is small....thanks for posting....FWB

Didn’t some country like Sweden find the USA likely destroyed that pipeline?

 

[fourfive8]

The first thing about this drone “explosion” I thought of was the basic hazard to aviation, especially small private aircraft. No matter type of drone- LE, military, commercial or hobby. Even a small hobby drone ingested into the engine of a large jet could cause a crash. Maybe the govmint/FAA has lost control of the airspace and doesn’t know what to do other than lie about it.

 

[mark-hunter]

Does flying the drone require having a license for that?
Then there should be a register of licenses issued?
Then the drone operators should obey some FAA rules?
Or, is it still unregulated?

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Didn’t some country like Sweden find the USA likely destroyed that pipeline?

No, not even close.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/nord-stream-pipeline-explosion-ukraine-diver-1.7296527

 

[Datchew]

Lead- For shooting down a drone or encapsulating radioactive material?

For shooting them down, I had the same thought about a couple of door gunners with shotguns on high performance choppers. Even 1 1/2 oz standard 12 ga load of #6 lead, steel, bismuth or tungston would take one out. Or retrofitting something like an F16 or A10 with short burst guns loaded with small shot ammo. The falling shot damage potential would be minimal with only the falling drone being somewhat of a problem. The greatest hazard might be flying into your own shot pattern and causing some engine damage. There would have to be some zone of fire restrictions and flying rules. But guaranteed, the government would classify a falling drone as an extreme hazard akin to a crashing B-52… just like the nonsense of calling a Chinese spy balloon falling over unoccupied, western US range land an extreme hazard. Followed of course by Brandon foolishly wasting resources and risking pilots trying to shoot down every weather and hobby balloon for the next month… trying to look tough. Corn Pop

Shielding. Concealing.

 

[shootist~]