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It can't be overstated how important this decision is to the 2024 elections. If appealed, the 8th will in all likelihood uphold this decision.


Judge limits Biden administration contact with social media platforms in censorship case​


 
It can't be overstated how important this decision is to the 2024 elections. If appealed, the 8th will in all likelihood uphold this decision.


Judge limits Biden administration contact with social media platforms in censorship case​


Too bad we didnt have such a ruling a few years ago. The Biden Bunch has been running social media the whole time.
 
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Let me be somewhat briefer this time. I am not offended. I simply think your notions of private corrupt enterprise leading to a war in Ukraine are nonsensical. If by that assertion, you mean the war is the result of the machinations of a conspiracy formed by American military and corporate interests. It is the stuff of tin foil hats.

The portion of Eisenhower's speech that is always quoted is “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex” People draw far different conclusions from that quote than Eisenhower intended from the complete speech.

I would urge you to read or listen to the whole thing. What I believe he was warning about was that United States was entering into a period of persistent conflict - a period that world had not really seen since the 100 years war. He further stated that America must be willing to exert a primary leadership role in that new era. Another quote in that speech that doesn't get much attention is “Throughout America's adventure in free government, our basic purposes have been to keep the peace; to foster progress in human achievement, and to enhance liberty, dignity and integrity among people and among nations,” That is quite an imperial mission statement - even call to arms by perhaps the most informed and successful political/military leader since Washington.

He more than anyone understood the fallacy of disarmament and isolationism; a cancer through which he served in late twenties and thirties. Another quote captures that experience, “an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

I see no evidence that the machinery of defense has run amok. As Eisenhower notes it is absolutely necessary in a dangerous world. What I have seen in my lifetime are administrations making terrible choices that have been condoned by large majorities of the American people - at least for a while. Vietnam, Iraq, and the attempt at nation building in Afghanistan are the best examples. Those decisions were made by leaders elected by the American people.

As @WAB correctly notes, I believe Obama failed miserably in his responsibilities to to foster progress in human achievement, and to enhance liberty, dignity and integrity among people and among nations by abandoning our commitments to Ukraine in 2014. I simply wish the current administration would exercise more resolve in addressing that responsibility today.
If we look at the Vietnam and Iraq war- those wars were sold to Americans based on lies. Top American officials deliberately lied about the circumstances and reasons for going to war. This is a pretty good book about Vietnam: https://www.amazon.ca/Dereliction-Duty-Johnson-McNamara-Vietnam/dp/0060929081

The same thing happened with Iraq. American justifications for going to war- such as the claims that Saddam had WMDs and so forth were not accepted by many American allies even. Also mainstream media in many other western countries disproved the reasons justifying the invasion of Iraq given by American officials. However, mainstream American media believed what US government officials were saying and they parroted these false narratives to the American public.

I know a guy who used to teach political science at York University in Toronto. He was a specialist on the Middle East. He said that for him it was mind boggling how anyone, who was remotely knowledgeable about middle eastern geopolitics at the time, could have thought that invading Iraq was a good idea or that it would serve any US interests. Saddams Iraq kept Iran in check and vice versa. And this is leaving aside the morality (or lack thereof) of waging a war of aggression on Iraq.

But the decision to invade Iraq was pushed by Rumsfeld and Cheney. Both Rumsfeld and Cheney had and probably still have significant investments in Americas private defense sector. Given that war was good for business- and that these were the people who lied to get this war- its not exactly a tinfoil conspiracy to make the argument that this was at least partially done for their own personal and financial gain.
 
Joe and Jill are literal scum! :sick: They have disowned their own grand daughter who they have not even met, Hunter wont allow her to take his name, probably a blessing in the long run, and Joe tells staff at the WH house that he only has 6 grandchildren when he has 7!
They wont even acknowledger her existence!! Totally despicable people!:mad:
 
If we look at the Vietnam and Iraq war- those wars were sold to Americans based on lies. Top American officials deliberately lied about the circumstances and reasons for going to war. This is a pretty good book about Vietnam: https://www.amazon.ca/Dereliction-Duty-Johnson-McNamara-Vietnam/dp/0060929081

The same thing happened with Iraq. American justifications for going to war- such as the claims that Saddam had WMDs and so forth were not accepted by many American allies even. Also mainstream media in many other western countries disproved the reasons justifying the invasion of Iraq given by American officials. However, mainstream American media believed what US government officials were saying and they parroted these false narratives to the American public.

I know a guy who used to teach political science at York University in Toronto. He was a specialist on the Middle East. He said that for him it was mind boggling how anyone, who was remotely knowledgeable about middle eastern geopolitics at the time, could have thought that invading Iraq was a good idea or that it would serve any US interests. Saddams Iraq kept Iran in check and vice versa. And this is leaving aside the morality (or lack thereof) of waging a war of aggression on Iraq.

But the decision to invade Iraq was pushed by Rumsfeld and Cheney. Both Rumsfeld and Cheney had and probably still have significant investments in Americas private defense sector. Given that war was good for business- and that these were the people who lied to get this war- its not exactly a tinfoil conspiracy to make the argument that this was at least partially done for their own personal and financial gain.

A young man I grew up with ended up with a PhD in forensic pathology. He was with the Canadian contingent excavating mass graves in Iraq after the war. They were sent to identify victims to offer families closure and support prosecutions. I finally had to ask him to stop sending me photos. I have a strong stomach, but it was more than I could take. The graves were huge, some containing thousands of people. Way beyond anything I saw in the media in size and graphic content. I am not sure we were the ones to do it, but I don’t think it was wrong to stop that madman.

On the WMD’s, I have always been curious what happened to Saddam’s gas. We know he had it as we had proof positive of his use of it on the Kurds in the North. I’m truly curious if anyone does know. At the time, I had dinner with Canada’s Lt. Gov.. She claimed that there were no WMD’s, but when I pressed on the use of gas against the Kurds I was brushed off.
 
A young man I grew up with ended up with a PhD in forensic pathology. He was with the Canadian contingent excavating mass graves in Iraq after the war. They were sent to identify victims to offer families closure and support prosecutions. I finally had to ask him to stop sending me photos. I have a strong stomach, but it was more than I could take. The graves were huge, some containing thousands of people. Way beyond anything I saw in the media in size and graphic content. I am not sure we were the ones to do it, but I don’t think it was wrong to stop that madman.

On the WMD’s, I have always been curious what happened to Saddam’s gas. We know he had it as we had proof positive of his use of it on the Kurds in the North. I’m truly curious if anyone does know. At the time, I had dinner with Canada’s Lt. Gov.. She claimed that there were no WMD’s, but when I pressed on the use of gas against the Kurds I was brushed off.
Exactly right, and I am not sure if it was ever determined where his WMD went, Syria comes up sometimes, but he DID have them and DID use them as you state.
Whether or not it was justifiable to take Iraq down will probably remain a much disputed point forever.
 
Yes, the leading theory remains Syria. Possibly also significant is that US special forces detected spikes of unique chemical signatures (residuals and reaction byproducts) of WMDs in the Tigris, Euphrates and Shatt Al-Arab system within a week of the beginning of the war. That story quickly disappeared after the initial report. ???
 
Syria would be a good guess, considering we had satellite photos of truck convoys headed into Syria right before the US invasion. I suspect that some of that was used in Syria.
 
A young man I grew up with ended up with a PhD in forensic pathology. He was with the Canadian contingent excavating mass graves in Iraq after the war. They were sent to identify victims to offer families closure and support prosecutions. I finally had to ask him to stop sending me photos. I have a strong stomach, but it was more than I could take. The graves were huge, some containing thousands of people. Way beyond anything I saw in the media in size and graphic content. I am not sure we were the ones to do it, but I don’t think it was wrong to stop that madman.

On the WMD’s, I have always been curious what happened to Saddam’s gas. We know he had it as we had proof positive of his use of it on the Kurds in the North. I’m truly curious if anyone does know. At the time, I had dinner with Canada’s Lt. Gov.. She claimed that there were no WMD’s, but when I pressed on the use of gas against the Kurds I was brushed off.
Would you like to see some pictures of Iraqi kids that were blown to bits by American smart bombs? Or maybe we should also show photos of the hundreds of thousands of civilians that were killed as a result of this war. Some of whom were killed by coalition forces. What made Saddam such an exceptional case ? You had the second Congolese Civil War that claimed the lives of millions of people. It happened slightly before the Iraq War. The US government never thought to do a "humanitarian intervention" there. Western mass media was also largely silent about it. Saudi Arabia is an abhorrent dictatorship led by a bunch of mad mullahs. They are a country that beheads people for the crime of "witchcraft". They are also currently bombing Yemen into the stone age using western weapons. Yet they remain a key US and western ally. America and the West is rather selective with which countries it chooses to bring democracy to. I hope this idiotic policy will stop. Hopefully Afghanistan and Iraq have been wake up calls. Instead of flushing 5 trillion dollars down the toilet- this money could have been used to i dunno improve America's health care system maybe ?

Lets say Saddam had chemical weapons. Like a number of other autocracies do. How would he plausibly deploy these weapons against America? And why would he when that would be sheer suicide. Saddam was a small annoying gnat to America. Yet he posed a huge threat to Iran. And vice versa. Having 2 of America's enemies next to each other and at each other's throat is actually fairly good for American interests.... Having an Iraq that's in shambles and led by Shiites, the same religion as the Iranians, is not so great....

Chemical weapons are also a bit difficult and expensive to keep and are not particularly effective. Its not suprising Saddam destroyed all he had left and/or did not make new ones. I know the US and Russia, for example, have destroyed quite a bit of their stockpiles. I doubt either of these countries did this out of sheer benevolence...
 
I wonder if cocaine is considered an alternative treatment for those with dementia as opposed to something recognized like Aricept.
we thought the same thing ; .. thank God for a good relationship with his son.

They'll blame Republicans for planting it anyway & get away with it ... seems to be the going trend.
 
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