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[sgt_zim]

I can understand the empathy, and I share it, but there has to be a firm reestablishing of order within the US immigration system, to include legal immigration. The United States should be treated like a Nation comprised of citizens again, not just an economic zone. Even if people view the US as one big Costco or Walmart, you can still be trespassed from those places.

I think something the Trump administration should explore is the option of beginning a grace period for illegal immigrants to return to their country of origin and apply for citizenship now. If they haven't by the time he enters office and they're caught, they lose the ability to legally do it in the future.

I also don't think we should be giving out as many work visas for certain sectors of our economy as we currently do, such as the tech sector, engineering (to include professors), mining, and energy production. There should be options for companies who can't fill roles with adequately educated Americans to tap into federal funding to train Americans for these positions. Exceptions could be made for immigrants coming from 5 eyes countries, but only if those individuals were citizens of said 5 eyes nation, and any money they send home should be taxed.

Programs like E-Verify should be mandatory, and companies employing non-citizens should be taxed at a higher rate, employers caught hiring illegal immigrants should face jail time.

The rate of legal immigration needs to be reduced, and quite drastically. As I pointed out a number of pages back, we've had nearly a 50% increase in population since 1980, and it's 100% due to immigration - legal and illegal. That isn't sustainable if we expect our culture to remain what made the US great.

We had a massive immigration of southern and eastern Europeans in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and it caused no end of problems. It took the Great Depression and ultimately WWII to bring everybody together.

 

[Pondoro]

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When baby poop was for men!View attachment 645631

I have shot AK´s..G3.. FN FAL and the M14..most of them extensively...I prefer the M14 (own one). Its lighter..more handy, better sights and much better trigger pull (two stage..).

 

[Foxi]

@ one day.Emblematic ?Really? I hope not.
an armed gay boygruop defends his minority rights
thats my impression.

 

[WAB]

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@ one day.Emblematic ?Really? I hope not.
an armed gay boygruop defends his minority rights
thats my impression.

Not something I would advise saying to their face. These lads were some of the toughest to carry a weapon into combat.

 

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[VertigoBE]

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I think Elon wanted to call it Department Of Government Efficiency (DOGE)…

 

[Beaufort]

Not anymore! We digital scan ever member coming in and will not allow anyone but the card hold to shop…
Just saying, the BP and ICE love us

Uh yeah, not so. I went with my wife to Costco yesterday. They scanned her card while I just walked right in beside her. Nobody asked me for any verification.

 

[VertigoBE]

On the immigration policy Trump should go for I tend to be in agreement with @Red Leg:

Assuming the 20M new illegal immigrants is a correct figure. And let’s say 5% of them are undesirable (drugs, crime, etc) that would still mean finding, catching, then transporting and delivering (to whom btw?) 1M people.

And although the vast majority are likely good people, these 5% are, a. all over the country and b. living with or around women and children.

If you want to see the fastest way Trump cannot accomplish anything, have four years worth of police/military worth of video circulating, breaching and entering to take criminals in custody while kids and women are in the cross fire. The entire world would come down on Trump. Look at the Israeli military going door to door in the Gaza Strip trying to get a few terrorists out of a larger population. Nothing good for Trump will come out of it.

Instead, make the inflows stop first. Then look at getting an ever increasing share of them official work permits and good jobs (no right to vote yet). Those that can prove after a few years that they have been contributing positively to the USA, can then eventually be granted citizenship. If however you get caught in crime, you get expelled immediately. No ifs or buts.

But by all means do not estrange these 20M people for life from the Republican Party. They are here now, you will not get them out anyway, so make sure they do not vote Democrat out of spite the next 40 years. Or this will be the last time you have had a republican president in your lifetime.

A good addition would also be a federal requirement to present ID when voting (which these immigrants should not have). That way only the positively contributing, tax paying immigrants who eventually are granted citizenship, will have a right to vote. As it should be.

V.

 

[jeanes]

I tend to agree with you on the visuals this would produce. Pull up a picture of the feds taking Elian Gonzales during Clinton's administration and multiply that by millions. Close the border, get rid of the criminals and go from there.