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The lesson is simply that the readiness, training, and capabilities needed to win require constant attention
I'd also toss in that the political will, and homogeneity of culture and the grit to support said will, in terms of fighting the war to win and not occupy or "win hearts and minds" no longer exists and that's a problem.

All the wars in my lifetime haven't achieved long term net gains except in our national debt.

The military is a machine for causing change by raw force. It's not meant to be a humanitarian organization.
 
Interesting two minutes of footage from one of the UA regiments committed to the Kursk salient. They are among the units encountering the poorly trained and totally inexperienced NKPA troops provided to Russia. Out of necessity, "suicide" drones have taken over much of the role normally provided by artillery.

Gaetz is scum. Good riddance. He regularly used prostitutes and drugs. Statutory raped a 17 year-old in Florida. Florida can’t prosecute without testimony as well. Surely we can do better than this? He dodged a bullet with the DOJ. The women and a friend met with the DOJ and corroborated the evidence but said they would not testify at a trial so the DOJ didn’t charge him. Lucky SOB should just slink off into his private catacombs but he’s probably too stupid to know that. We just might see him in the public eye again because of his ego and need for attention. Another narcissist.
 
Or they did not find the source creditable, just as the DOJ did not.
They refused to testify. Are the facts really at doubt? I understand you’re an attorney.
 
A credible conservative that serves and knows Gaetz says he personally experienced Gaetz often sharing perverted pics on his phone on the house floor. And telling stories of his less than stand up exploits.
Of course there are many substandard people in politics. And no one is perfect. And he certainly could do the job. But how would we react if Biden put him up for the AG?

There are plenty of qualified people that can clean house without the illegal baggage.
 
Gaetz is scum. Good riddance. He regularly used prostitutes and drugs. Statutory raped a 17 year-old in Florida. Florida can’t prosecute without testimony as well. .
The statutory rape occurred in 2017 and statute of limitations for FL has expired. Even if it had not, I am not sure if it is prosecutable, the woman in question has stated that Gaetz did not know her age and did not ask either.

Back in the 90s I used to live three doors down from Dennis Rodman's house at Newport Beach. It was attended by a multitude of co-eds during his infamous parties which I attended frequently. I had many co-eds during those times walk down the sand to my place to see my etchings. I did not ask for an id either as they looked old enough, and I think his security did check ids for those that looked too young.
 
Gaetz is scum. Good riddance. He regularly used prostitutes and drugs. Statutory raped a 17 year-old in Florida. Florida can’t prosecute without testimony as well. Surely we can do better than this? He dodged a bullet with the DOJ. The women and a friend met with the DOJ and corroborated the evidence but said they would not testify at a trial so the DOJ didn’t charge him. Lucky SOB should just slink off into his private catacombs but he’s probably too stupid to know that. We just might see him in the public eye again because of his ego and need for attention. Another narcissist.

I am not standing up for Gaetz's morals but the truth does matter.

There is a reason the DOJ didn't bring indictments. There was no evidence.

If a girl is 17 and has a valid (real) Florida drivers license saying she was of majority age is it statutory rape. Here is an pretty good article posted on this thread from a month ago detailing what is alleged in the House Ethics Report.

 
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100% for term limits. Two terms only for both houses. The President can serve just twice so it stands to reason members of congress should follow suit. Hell, a good number of them are not capable of one term.

Agree with you strongly. However I would extend the term of service to House Representatives to 4 years to give them time to become seasoned and of use. Limiting them to two terms at only 2 years each seems a bit short. I would also write it up as elected twice to two full terms. The exception there is for those appointed to fill an unexpected vacancy.

But overall, I do agree with you.
 
Gaetz is scum. Good riddance. He regularly used prostitutes and drugs. Statutory raped a 17 year-old in Florida. Florida can’t prosecute without testimony as well. Surely we can do better than this? He dodged a bullet with the DOJ. The women and a friend met with the DOJ and corroborated the evidence but said they would not testify at a trial so the DOJ didn’t charge him. Lucky SOB should just slink off into his private catacombs but he’s probably too stupid to know that. We just might see him in the public eye again because of his ego and need for attention. Another narcissist.

Prostitution maybe morally and legally wrong in most states but it is what it is and anyone who has served or been around any military base or military base of operations, or lives or been to any sizable city knows prostitutes are available.

As for the 17 year old in question:
What was she doing at an adult age party?
Where were her parents?
Why didn't her parents know where she was, and what she was doing?
Why didn't the 17 years old admit she was only 17 prior to the consensual sex?

The question that needs to be asked is: How many of those prostitutes Gaetz paid for sex was under age? Before labeling him a pedophile.

Now as far as prostitution, we had a discussion about the subject and as one member pointed out (paraphrased):

'.....when I pay a whole I know I'm going to get laid. You're Taking still paying for it [sex] when you take a girl out for dinner, a movie, etc, spending all that money on a date. At the end you don't know if you're going to have sex or not.'

As for excessive drinking; I'm sure those of us who have and still do part take in alcoholic beverages have gone above our limit at least once or more. No hypothetic here cause in my younger days I partied heartyed more than a few times. However, I can count the number of over doing it on one hand. Can't say the same for others that were around at the time.

At 15, 16, and 17 years old u hung out with the older crowd 18 and older crowd. Because I didn't act like the idiots in my age group the older crowd accepted and treated me as an equal. Does that mean the women I slept with are pedophiles (Rethorical question)? No! It was consensual sex and I didn't admit my age, even though I knew they were older.

My life experiences have allowed me to be more open minded and less hypothetical to some others.

IMO...Habitual pedophiles still need to be castrated and given a slow, painful, death the same as mass murders and "white collar" above the law thieves. All other habitual criminals just need a slow poison in what will become their last meal.
 


So true

I'm often torn on the police issue.
We see incredible acts of selfless valor and at other times, heinous cowardice (uvalde) from the police.

They're easy to poke at when we see such things and easy to love when a shining example occurs.
It's a thankless job that I don't envy.
 
I am not standing up for Gaetz's morals but the truth does matter.

There is a reason the DOJ didn't bring indictments. There was no evidence.

If a girl is 17 and has a valid (real) Florida drivers license saying she was of majority age is it statutory rape. Here is an pretty good article posted on this thread from a month ago detailing what is alleged in the House Ethics Report.


Too much smoke around Gaetz for there not to be a fire somewhere. Just not buying into conspiracy theories around this guy. Good riddance, neither party should have someone like this "serving."
 
I am not standing up for Gaetz's morals but the truth does matter.

There is a reason the DOJ didn't bring indictments. There was no evidence.

If a girl is 17 and has a valid (real) Florida drivers license saying she was of majority age is it statutory rape. Here is an pretty good article posted on this thread from a month ago detailing what is alleged in the House Ethics Report.


I read this article earlier. It brought to mind a blackmail scheme from several years (decades ago) where, similar to Epstein, an individual ran a prostitute and drug ring with the intent to compromise politicians and the elites to protect him/her and his/her operations. IIRC.....Seems the headlines lasted less than a week. The names in the "black book" were never leaked to the public.
 
I am not standing up for Gaetz's morals but the truth does matter.

There is a reason the DOJ didn't bring indictments. There was no evidence.

If a girl is 17 and has a valid (real) Florida drivers license saying she was of majority age is it statutory rape. Here is an pretty good article posted on this thread from a month ago detailing what is alleged in the House Ethics Report.

So any time someone is not charged because of witnesses that won’t testify and a perp that refuses to cooperate means they are innocent? Does that erase what happened? Maybe you should have been a defense attorney.
 
I am not standing up for Gaetz's morals but the truth does matter.

There is a reason the DOJ didn't bring indictments. There was no evidence.

If a girl is 17 and has a valid (real) Florida drivers license saying she was of majority age is it statutory rape. Here is an pretty good article posted on this thread from a month ago detailing what is alleged in the House Ethics Report.

So any time someone is not charged because of witnesses that won’t testify and a perp that refuses to cooperate mean they are innocent? Maybe you should have been a defense attorney
The statutory rape occurred in 2017 and statute of limitations for FL has expired. Even if it had not, I am not sure if it is prosecutable, the woman in question has stated that Gaetz did not know her age and did not ask either.

Back in the 90s I used to live three doors down from Dennis Rodman's house at Newport Beach. It was attended by a multitude of co-eds during his infamous parties which I attended frequently. I had many co-eds during those times walk down the sand to my place to see my etchings. I did not ask for an id either as they looked old enough, and I think his security did check ids for those that looked too young.
Good for you?!? I hope you used a condom. Weird post!
 

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