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250K is what Zelenskyy quoted in the news yesterday, but I also think he said 350K the day before.
Propaganda clearly flows both ways.
It is interesting that thanks to a nonaligned Turkish based aggregator of materiel losses we have pretty good reading of those baseline losses on both sides. This link goes directly to the Russian totals. No system is listed without video or photographic evidence. Obviously, that makes the totals rather conservative. https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html?m=1 As an example, according to Oryx and that visual evidence, Russia has lost 3750 tanks to date in the war. I know that DOD estimated Russia had roughly 3500 modernized T72 and T80 variants and a couple of dozen T90's at the start of the conflict. Those simply no longer exist. It is why the kills over the last year have been more and more often T-64's taken out of long term storage. They are death traps on a modern battlefield.

Oryx further notes total verified Russian losses of armored vehicles of all types, including tanks is 11,794. In both categories, note the number of captured platforms. Russia has actually been the largest supplier of armored vehicles to Ukrainian forces of any nation during the war. Again, those numbers significantly exceed the inventory of modernized Russian armored capability. It is why the internet is full in recent months of videos of Russians desperately trying to advance using ATVs and civilian vehicles.

Casualty estimates are all over the place. The Ukrainian MOD claims as of today that it has inflicted 858,390 casualties on Russian forces (KIA/WIA/MIA/and captured). This would include Wagner before its withdrawal, North Koreans, and conscripted troops from the occupied Donbass. The British MOD published an estimate 19 December 2024 that the Russian army had suffered as many as 750,000 total casualties to date.

US wounded to KIA ratios have ranged from 5 to 12 to one during the GWOT. Russia's field medical services are extremely primitive by Western military standards. By our estimate Russian WIA to KIA ratios are likely no better than three to one and perhaps as bad as two to one. Taking the British MOD figure that would result is somewhere between 275,000 and 375,000 KIA. That tracks pretty closely with Zelensky's estimate.

The US, on the other hand, has been very cautious on casualty estimates. On January 20 of last year, DOD estimated Russian casualties at "almost" 500,000. Combat over the last year as Russia has largely vainly tried to occupy new ground has been far more intensive than first two years. In November of last year alone both DOD and UK MOD estimated Russian total casualties in the 45K+ range. That is both staggering and unsustainable even for Russia unless it goes to nation-wide mobilization which Putin dares not do.

As I say, the US has enormous leverage at the negotiating table if it would just use it.
 
We europeans are bewildered after Vance´s speech in Münich.. Do Trump and his people now see Europe as an opponent instead of an ally..? Europe to be excluded from Ukraine peace talks...and YET we are expected to provide security and peace keeping troops in Ukraine..?? And I bet we are expected to rebuild Ukraine.. So..Russia is supposed to keep the 18% they have occupied without providing anything to rebuild..? Congrats Mr. Putin..your aggression indeed turned out succesful..!

Vance also attended a meeting with Alice Weidel, leader of the right wing german AfD party.. AfD is, at least, bordering on being neo-nazi..

Care to enlighten us on the AFD party? I've been hearing of it lately but am justifiably skeptical of its "far right" label by Europeans who seem set on self destruction and would label a t-bone steak as "far right".
 
Really good opinion piece in the NYT of all places with respect to the certitude that many have that the 14th amendment applies to anyone born in this country of any parents of any legal standing.

 
We europeans are bewildered after Vance´s speech in Münich.. Do Trump and his people now see Europe as an opponent instead of an ally..? Europe to be excluded from Ukraine peace talks...and YET we are expected to provide security and peace keeping troops in Ukraine..?? And I bet we are expected to rebuild Ukraine.. So..Russia is supposed to keep the 18% they have occupied without providing anything to rebuild..? Congrats Mr. Putin..your aggression indeed turned out succesful..!

Vance also attended a meeting with Alice Weidel, leader of the right wing german AfD party.. AfD is, at least, bordering on being neo-nazi..
I'm pretty certain that what is being conveyed is that this is a problem for Europe, not the US. We the people spoke and our elected president listened. Your collective leadership keeps sinking money into social programs to keep themselves in power instead of their defense all while expecting the USA to foot the bill to keep you guys safe. The free ride is over. We have spent way too much and sacrificed even more over the decades. We've had enough.

You gonna pay for my guns and ammo while I spend my money on an expensive vacation? No? Same principle. You and the rest of Europe are upset that American funds are drying up and you may actually have to defend yourselves.
 
I actually am not arguing with you. I have no use for the VA. We are Medicare and Tricare for Life and would not trade it for anything. However, when we moved here from Virginia, from a medical perspective, it was like moving to a different planet. None of our new doctors were particularly interested in medical records. But yes, now with Medicare and Tricare we do not even require referrals.
Second that. I have medicare and tricare and choose my own medics. I go straight to speciialists for everything, no wasting time with VA.
 
We europeans are bewildered after Vance´s speech in Münich..

From the look on most of their faces, I would say less bewildered and more gobsmacked...

Other facial expressions alluded to guilty as charged....

Do Trump and his people now see Europe as an opponent instead of an ally..?

Trump views Europe collectively as a delinquent ally who has not met their end of the bargain on many fronts for the last several decades. Allies who are not reciprocal in their support are not really allies in the true sense of the word.

Europe to be excluded from Ukraine peace talks...and YET we are expected to provide security and peace keeping troops in Ukraine..??

Europe seems to have willfully excluded itself from any peace talks for the last 3 years... Any or all of Europe's leaders could have attempted to initiate peace talks but did not, or better yet could not...

In fairness, the previous joke of an Administration's impotence on this matter was no better than Europe's... They had 4 years to use U.S. leverage to force Russia to the table and did nothing meaningful to either end or exacerbate the war... At least Trump is getting them to the table which is more than any so-called leader in the U.S. or Europe has been able to accomplish to this point...

As far as the cost of peacekeeping, don't worry about the U.S.A. paying for more than its fair share like it has always done...
 
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Care to enlighten us on the AFD party? I've been hearing of it lately but am justifiably skeptical of its "far right" label by Europeans who seem set on self destruction and would label a t-bone steak as "far right".

 
www.dw.com

Will Germany's far-right AfD party be banned? – DW – 10/18/2024

German lawmakers from across the political spectrum are working together to ban the Alternative for Germany party, which has been classified as partly right-wing extremist. Can they succeed?
www.dw.com
www.dw.com

I can't form an opinion one way or another from this link because it's an opinion piece that speaks nothing to the specific reasons, or any case being made on what exactly the party has done, or what specific ideologies they support that qualifies them as right-wing extremists. The phrase "right-wing extremism" gets thrown around quite a bit world-wide by actual far-left extremists, so the weight of the phrase has little if any credibility here in the USA.

You need to provide sources that list specific extremist deeds or ideologies they support if you want your argument to be credible...
 
From the look on most of their faces, I would say less bewildered and more gobsmacked...

Other facial expressions alluded to guilty as charged....



Trump views Europe collectively as a delinquent ally who has not meet their end of the bargain on many fronts for the last several decades. Allies who are not reciprocal in their support are not really allies in the true sense of the word.



Europe seems to have willfully excluded itself from any peace talks for the last 3 years... Any or all of Europe's leaders could have attempted to initiate peace talks but did not, or better yet could not...

In fairness, the previous joke of an Administration's impotence on this matter was no better than Europe's... They had 4 years to use U.S. leverage to force Russia to the table and did nothing meaningful to either end or exacerbate the war... At least Trump is getting them to the table which is more than any so-called leader in the U.S. or Europe has been able to accomplish to this point...

As far as the cost of peacekeeping, don't worry about the U.S.A. paying for more than its fair share like it has always done...

What it looks like now is that Trump wants to make some quick end to the the Ukraine war and push all further commitment to accomplish that over to Europe..

The problem is that Trump is very unpredictable and seem to lack any political ideology..apart from some business like take on all political decision.

What Europe wants to clarify is what Trump wants in Europe.. Will he ultimately pull America out of NATO..? Is he to pull out all US troops in Europe..? Or what..??

The only sober members to Münich seem to be Keith Kellogg and Rubio ..Vance and Hegseth seem to be on another planet politically..

If the US is pulling out militarily all together then we would like to know..then Europe will have to build up a new continental army to face off Russia..

If this is the case the US will be on their own if the shit hits the fan in the Middle East and in the event of war with China..
 
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I can't form an opinion one way or another from this link because it's an opinion piece that speaks nothing to the specific reasons, or any case being made on what exactly the party has done, or what specific ideologies they support that qualifies them as right-wing extremists. The phrase "right-wing extremism" gets thrown around quite a bit world-wide by actual far-left extremists, so the weight of the phrase has little if any credibility here in the USA.

You need to provide sources that list specific extremist deeds or ideologies they support if you want your argument to be credible...

To give you an idea..they want to lift all sanctions off Russia and stop all military support to Ukraine.

They also want to pull Germany out of the EU.
 
To give you an idea..they want to lift all sanctions off Russia and stop all military support to Ukraine.

They also want to pull Germany out of the EU.

Interesting, and perhaps unwise, but still nothing that constitutes the blanket label of right-wing extremism....
 
Interesting, and perhaps unwise, but still nothing that constitutes the blanket label of right-wing extremism....

What will it take to convince you..? New death camps..?
 
To give you an idea..they want to lift all sanctions off Russia and stop all military support to Ukraine.

They also want to pull Germany out of the EU.

That position would poll pretty high in the US in general and would be significantly above water with Republican voters.
 
To give you an idea..they want to lift all sanctions off Russia and stop all military support to Ukraine.

They also want to pull Germany out of the EU.
Interesting, and perhaps unwise, but still nothing that constitutes the blanket label of right-wing extremism....

Alexander Gauland (Sp?), a cofounder, described Hitler and the Nazis as "a speck of bird poop in the thousand year history of Germany." Germans seem to have a thing about these thousand year epochs.
They are indeed strongly supportive of Putin and the parallels to the relationship between the NSDAP and the Soviet Union prior to 1939 is rather striking.

They are anti-migrant immigration which, of course, tracks with the Trump movement. Additionally they have called for the deportation of any nonethnic German citizens. Obviously, that tends to bring up the specter Germany's last bit of ethnic cleansing.

All that said, their rhetoric is not so different from the more radical voices of the American populist movement. Of course, Germany's still recent history is somewhat different than this country.

Still, I think it was a mistake in what was otherwise a brilliant, refreshing, American centric conversation with Europe for Vance to even indirectly poke into that German domestic political wasp nest. Trump would be furious were Olaf Scholz to do the same in this country.
 
That position would poll pretty high in the US in general and would be significantly above water with Republican voters.

I sincerely hope that you are wrong.
 
It is shocking to see that both Musk and Vance attend meetings with AfD..
 
That position would poll pretty high in the US in general and would be significantly above water with Republican voters.
I genuinely pray that you are wrong.
 
I sincerely hope that you are wrong.

I haven't seen the data, and it likely doesn't even exist, but I would bet if you polled 3 of 3 Trump voters it would be 2:1 in favor of stopping Ukraine aid.

I don't do that many campaigns anymore, just for friends mostly, but in two congressional primaries I had last year, Ukraine was kryptonite. They were in different states, but both districts were Trump +15. With primary voters, it was overwhelming, they wanted the US to stop funding.
 
I haven't seen the data, and it likely doesn't even exist, but I would bet if you polled 3 of 3 Trump voters it would be 2:1 in favor of stopping Ukraine aid.

I don't do that many campaigns anymore, just for friends mostly, but in two congressional primaries I had last year, Ukraine was kryptonite. They were in different states, but both districts were Trump +15. With primary voters, it was overwhelming, they wanted the US to stop funding.

Well I’m a Trump voter, I support Ukraine, and I believe that most I know feel the same. I know that is anecdotal, but I pray that it is a wider held position than you believe. Our interests extend beyond our borders!
 
All that said, their rhetoric is not so different from the more radical voices of the American populist movement. Of course, Germany's still recent history is somewhat different than this country.

Interesting that you bring this up...

Hitler and the Nazis ruined the concepts of any outright displays of patriotism and populism in Germany, and throughout much of the European Continent out of both fear and guilt of embracing such ideologies. It's understandable I guess, but I also think it directly facilitated Europe's surge to the left post-WW2. Fear of repeating an undesirable outcome often creates an overcorrection in the opposite direction...

Given the realized costs of embracing socialism and far-left cultural ideologies, it's not surprising that populism is making a comeback in many parts of Europe. It's also not surprising that those Europeans still embracing the guilt and fear are making the same BS "threat to democracy" claims along with the analogies to Hitler that we heard here in the USA for the last 8 years... End of the world doom propaganda is all the left has when they cannot defend their failed policies, and it seems that more and more Europeans are waking up to that...
 

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