"But.. had the EU actually been pulling its weight in NATO all of these years.. had they been engaging in fair trade for the last several decades.. etc etc.. we probably wouldn't be where we are today...
Whether that's the EU's fault to not living up to the contracts (i.e. NATO, etc) they signed and agreed to.. or the US's fault for letting them get away with it for so long doesn't really matter does it?"
@mdwest
as if the USA (and the US corporations behind it) have ever allowed themselves to be treated unfairly ?
Do you really believe that ?
I asked Chat GTP now,because their databases are much bigger than our subjective opinions and spotty memories (I'm just talking about myself
Answer Chat GTP :
Donald Trump has often claimed during his presidency that the European Union (EU) treats the US unfairly, especially in trade. But whether this claim is objectively true depends on how you define “unfair”.
Arguments in favor of Trump's position:
Higher EU tariffs on US products
Trump has often criticized the EU for imposing higher tariffs on certain US products than vice versa. For example, the EU had a 10% tariff on US cars, while the US only levied 2.5% on European cars (excluding trucks, on which the US levies a 25% tariff).
Regulatory hurdles
The EU has strict regulations for imported goods (e.g. in the agricultural sector), which makes it more difficult for US companies to enter the European market.
US trade deficit with the EU
The US has a trade deficit with the EU, which Trump saw as evidence of unfair treatment. In 2019, the deficit was around 170 billion dollars.
Arguments against Trump's position:
Reciprocal tariffs and subsidies
The EU does impose higher tariffs on some US products, but the US does the same in other areas, e.g. with high tariffs on European trucks or aluminum and steel products.
Fair trade agreements
The trade rules between the EU and the US are based on mutually agreed WTO (World Trade Organization) rules that were not unilaterally set by the EU.
Arguments against Trump's position:
Reciprocal tariffs and subsidies
The EU does impose higher tariffs on some US products, but the US does the same in other areas, e.g. with high tariffs on European trucks or aluminum and steel products.
Fair trade agreements
The trade rules between the EU and the US are based on mutually agreed WTO (World Trade Organization) rules that were not unilaterally set by the EU.
Subsidies and competitive conditions
Both the EU and the US subsidize certain industries (e.g. the aviation industry with Airbus vs. Boeing), which has led to trade conflicts.
Conclusion:
Trump's claim is a simplified representation of reality. While there are differences in terms of trade, both sides benefit greatly from each other economically. Instead of speaking of “unfair” treatment, one could rather speak of different trade strategies and interests.