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Leaders "followed the lawful orders of a previous administration." That was exactly what they were supposed to do. This sort of firing is indeed unprecedented. No, Marshal's retiring of many of the older Officers as we entered the Second World War was not the same thing. That was the military cleaning its own house for operational reasons, not FDR doing it for political reasons. After all, FDR certainly didn't fire Marshal. I assume that we will see a tit for tat when the democrats regain the executive branch.

It is obvious that the real driver is the rather novel political divide in the country, and the intolerance the base of both parties have for the other. A word of caution to the screaming partisans on both sides. Militaries have a difficult path to negotiate between those sorts of factions. In similar situations dating back to the collapse of the Roman Republic, armies have too often resolved the dilemma by simply seizing power.
 
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Police in the UK pay you a visit if you criticize a local official. The criticism was that she said he should resign.

Keep paying attention to Musk though. Easier than acknowledging that your own country is burning I guess.


If that’s true as described, that’s terrifying. JDV was right—if you’re going to be a police state it’s hard to make the argument that you deserve to be defended with American blood because you’re just a Soviet in tight jeans.
 
Trumps firing of the jeffies that could have remained loyal to the last guy could be the result of what a little bird told him…… ya never know….
 
One wonders, what does Putin have in his hands, what he could use against Trump? Was Trump not only involved in dubious activities in the United States, but also in Russia? Are there photos showing Trump with Russian women in catchy situations?

It seems clear that Putin could use something against Trump if he did not obey his word. How else can one explain Trump's submission to Putin? But of course, Trump is not a politician, but a crazy real estate shark, you can't measure him with ordinary standards.
LOL ..... Keep beating that dead "Russian collusion" horse; maybe he'll stand up and take saddle!
 
Leaders "followed the lawful orders of a previous administration." That was exactly what they were supposed to do. This sort of firing is indeed unprecedented. No, Marshal's retiring of many of the older Officers as we entered the Second World War was not the same thing. That was the military cleaning its own house for operational reasons, not FDR doing it for political reasons. After all, FDR certainly didn't fire Marshal. I assume that we will see a tit for tat when the democrats regain the executive branch.

It is obvious that the real driver is the rather novel political divide in the country, and the intolerance the base of both parties have for the other. A word of caution to the screaming partisans on both sides. Militaries have a difficult path to negotiate between those sorts of factions. In similar situations dating back to the collapse of the Roman Republic, armies have too often resolved the dilemma by simply seizing power.
Isn’t it a little drastic and sensational to talk about the military taking over?
 
Spreading NAZi symbols is strictly forbidden here, I don't know the penalty, but my hunting license would have to be the first thing to go.

The 3 German citizens 60 minutes had on said that displaying that symbol could get you 5 years.
 
I mostly agree with you, but I have a question: When you say: "first 90 days..." is it possible he's reacting to things learned in his first 1461 days?

One thing Trump seems to have learned in his second term is to surround himself with people that take most of the incoming fire. In his first term all the fire went directly at Trump.
 
Do you think Musk will eventually take one for the Trump team? If things get sticky if several of the bold/risky initiatives don’t go well.

Will he fall on his sword? And leave to absorb the blame.
 
Isn’t it a little drastic and sensational to talk about the military taking over?
I don’t know. Maybe not so far fetched. Didn’t Milley beta test that last time? If not so, why did Biden issue him a preemptive pardon?
 
Leaders "followed the lawful orders of a previous administration." That was exactly what they were supposed to do. This sort of firing is indeed unprecedented. No, Marshal's retiring of many of the older Officers as we entered the Second World War was not the same thing. That was the military cleaning its own house for operational reasons, not FDR doing it for political reasons. After all, FDR certainly didn't fire Marshal. I assume that we will see a tit for tat when the democrats regain the executive branch.

It is obvious that the real driver is the rather novel political divide in the country, and the intolerance the base of both parties have for the other. A word of caution to the screaming partisans on both sides. Militaries have a difficult path to negotiate between those sorts of factions. In similar situations dating back to the collapse of the Roman Republic, armies have too often resolved the dilemma by simply seizing power.

Agree. I think the closest to what is probably happening now was when Obama fired a couple hundred Generals and officers to revamp the military to match his vision.
 
One thing Trump seems to have learned in his second term is to surround himself with people that take most of the incoming fire. In his first term all the fire went directly at Trump.

Agree...

Elon frankly seems to be getting a whole lot more flack than Trump.. and it appears Trump is happy to let him have it.. Heseth and Patel also get daily pot shots...

8 years ago the only name you would be hearing about now would have been Trump..

Hes also not going on the offensive with R leadership much (yet)... granted they haven't given him much cause (yet).. but 8 years ago I would have expected him to light into McConnel with a half dozen mean tweets a day for 30 days straight over McConnels recent actions.. he's largely just ignored Mitch... while McConnell continues to try to bait Trump into a fight (as recently as yesterday McConnel made public statements about Trump and his Ukraine position... but from what I can tell its been over a week since Trump said anything about McConnel publicly, and that was limited to calling McConnell "bitter" over the RFK jr confirmation)...
 
Do you think Musk will eventually take one for the Trump team? If things get sticky if several of the bold/risky initiatives don’t go well.

Will he fall on his sword? And leave to absorb the blame.


I think he will simply resign at some point to re-focus his energy on his own companies, and whatever else he decides he wants to pursue next..

I cant find a legitimate reference other than a handful of reddit posts, but supposedly Musk only agreed to stand up DOGE and to give the Fed Govt 4 months of his time.. after that he was supposedly going to move back to overseeing his own portfolio, etc..

That makes logical sense to me.. spend some time, identify the targets, conduct target analysis, figure out plan(s) of attack.. then turn all of that over to the associated secretaries and to POTUS for action... build a team capable of continuing the mission after you depart... and then go back to living his extravagant life the way he was living it prior to November..
 
Re-read the edited post that you quoted (I was editing as you were typing)... Hes already stated he doesn't care... and he's making tons of money on his other endeavors.. his personal net worth is now over $400B.. it was less than $300B in November...

Not to mention that while Tesla stock is down (5%).. it rose last year 70%... its got a very long way before it is seen as a bad investment.. and the EU market isn't enough to have the sort of impact you are hoping for.. until the Asian and US markets start to boycott, Tesla will continue to prosper.. The EU represents about 15% of Teslas global sales.. China alone is almost 37% of their market..

Tesla sells more EVs in the US than the next 3 EV manufacturers combined..




Everything I am seeing says the EU has far more to lose if those isolationist polices take hold..

No doubt everyone will suffer consequences...

But as stated several times already.. economists on the left and the right rarely agree on much.. but they agree that everything going on at the moment stands to hurt the EU more than it will hurt the US..

Think BYD is overtaking tesla in China.. Asian countries and south American countries...not that I pay much attention to electric car stuff....
 
I think he will simply resign at some point to re-focus his energy on his own companies, and whatever else he decides he wants to pursue next..

I cant find a legitimate reference other than a handful of reddit posts, but supposedly Musk only agreed to stand up DOGE and to give the Fed Govt 4 months of his time.. after that he was supposedly going to move back to overseeing his own portfolio, etc..

That makes logical sense to me.. spend some time, identify the targets, conduct target analysis, figure out plan(s) of attack.. then turn all of that over to the associated secretaries and to POTUS for action... build a team capable of continuing the mission after you depart... and then go back to living his extravagant life the way he was living it prior to November..

That's basically what I read too. Musk is devoting 24/7 for four months. Not sure about now but evidently he was sleeping on a cot in the office when DOGE opened for business.
 
based on the article posted above, what it appears that Putin has in his hands is rare earth minerals that he is offering Trump to support Russia rather than Ukraine in their conflict..

It was only a few weeks ago that Trump told Zelensky the price of the US supporting Ukraine was its rare earth minerals.. Zelensky declined...

Putin is now offering those same minerals up to Trump in the Russian held territories in Ukraine..

and just like that (in my best Forest Gump voice) a mineral deal is struck with Ukraine..


 
So when we get a ceasefire there may be capacity to look backward to do a deep dive into the Biden/Blinken teams decision to not take up the proposed peace deal very early in the Ukraine war.

supposedly Russia agreed to stop hostilities if Ukraine would commit to never joining NATO.

Was Biden and Zelenskyy correct in not taking that deal.

Ignoring the hundreds of thousands of lives lost and billions spent.

It could be argued that the Biden Zelenskyy decision to continue the war. And Biden not giving enough support to actually win the war, did have a huge positive effect. The 3 years of war took a lot of punch out of Russia.

So did the Biden Zelenskyy strategy Actually work better than ending it early? Only
to prolong the inevitable of Putin attacking at a later date.
 

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