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[Brent in Az]

USA needs to ramp up the energy independence . Build more refineries?

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[Datchew]

You have left out a key point of true scientific method, an attempt to disprove your thesis. The climate is, and always has been, changing. Very few debate that. The dispute is on a causal link between human activity and climate change. The appropriate approach to this analysis would be to adopt a thesis for or against the link and attempt to prove AND disprove said thesis. I have yet to see any paper that takes this approach. In fact, quite the opposite. It is so bad that anyone who suggests a true scientific method be adopted is branded a heretic and accused of not believing the science. This disingenuous approach by politicians parading as scientists is nauseating.

Bravo. Well said.

One of the most interesting tells to me by the climate grifter bunch is their selection of control volumes and data sets.

The hyper focus on eliminating clothes washers that use "excess" water or gas stoves in our kitchen and yet one of the largest emissions of greenhouse gas in history is largely and conspicuously ignored. The Nord Stream pipeline sabotage.

 

[Neophyte]

One of my pet peeves is Low Flow toilets forced on us by the so called green crowd. I actually use more water due to having to flush more times to get the crap into the sewer system.

Don’t get me started on the toilets with sensors. They flush before I’ve done my business then I have to trigger the sensor again when I’m done taking a dump. Thus using more water than it should take.

 

[Russ16]

What happens if the anti abortion or 2A crowd wants to protest? People are quick to demand swift/harsh treatment to protesters when they don’t fit their narrative. But there will be a time when whatever cause you support needs to be heard, and you don’t want to give up that right just to spite your enemy.

Agree the more we restrict speech the more we restrict freedom. Once speech is restricted we are all on the path to being oppressed.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

"I can spell it out in color crayon for you if that helps any?"

Well that pretty falls in line with what I would have guessed he would have used...

I thought most cave drawings were done in charcoal but I guess colour crayons will do in a pinch.

 

[Tundra Tiger]

I thought most cave drawings were done in charcoal but I guess colour crayons will do in a pinch.

I think you are confusing members....

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I think you are confusing members....

It’s possible some are memorable for their wise contributions others blend together.

 

[Datchew]

I have been out of pocket for a few days.

After skimming through a number of pages of this thread, this is what I have found fascinating regarding the Zelensky/Trump/Vance press conference.

Individuals with a common love of hunting. Many who I know personally and have respect for as individuals. Have such an amazingly divergent take on a 50 minute video all seen. It just shows how individualistic we all are. I am thankful to Jerome for allowing everyone's perspectives to be shared. Even if half the people are wrong.

It's like that weird internet phenomenon where people look at the dress and differ on whether it's gold and white vs. blue and black.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Jeez you really are a muppet....by the way I can't stand horses....so whatever

Spike I probably owe you some form of royalty payment I used your muppet characterization to describe another member some pages back. In solidarity I’ll buy the drinks if you ever wonder into my little piece of the world. Out of curiosity have you ever drank spiked Tea ? Some older gentleman I knew used to take a gallon glass jug fill it with white rum and soak red rose tea bags in it while gently heating it on a stove in a pot of warm water. The first couple were quite harsh but the drinks seemed to improve as the night ran on.

 

[Neophyte]

Jeez you really are a muppet....by the way I can't stand horses....so whatever

“The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man.”

Will Rogers

Can’t stand horses?

They are the best way to work cattle. Especially if you have to rope them to doctor, brand, or whatever. Please do tell us what outfit you’re with as I have no desire to share a fire with you.

The joy of making a good ranch horse is one of the few pleasures in my life.

 

[Neophyte]

Americans in generel are restrospective people . The gunfight at OK corral or Billy Dixon that shot an indian from Adobe hills with a Sharps rifle are still an actualilty in 2025……LOL

Seeing as how my grandma was born in 1896, only grandparent I knew as a kid, and both parents were alive when Wyatt Earp died I’m not that far removed from that time period.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

“The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man.”

Will Rogers

Can’t stand horses?

They are the best way to work cattle. Especially if you have to rope them to doctor, brand, or whatever. Please do tell us what outfit you’re with as I have no desire to share a fire with you.

The joy of making a good ranch horse is one of the few pleasures in my life.

Given that I spent most of my teen years showing horses regionally and pull draft horses and oxen I’m inclined to agree with you about horses. I disagree about spike though I think he’d be a riot to be in a camp with.

 

[lwaters]

One of my pet peeves is Low Flow toilets forced on us by the so called green crowd. I actually use more water due to having to flush more times to get the crap into the sewer system.

Don’t get me started on the toilets with sensors. They flush before I’ve done my business then I have to trigger the sensor again when I’m done taking a dump. Thus using more water than it should take.

I always have company use the low flow toilet I had. It would leave crap all over the side and they would be be in there trying to clean it off. I finally got rid of it. They are worthless.

 

[Datchew]

Apparently Zelensky is ready to come back to the negotiations after Trump supposedly paused all aid.
I say supposedly and apparently because it seems by the time I hear about it, it's changed. Crazy times.

But the article i read this in had this picture which made me and my wife laugh out loud.
Anyone else remember Say Anything?

 

[Neophyte]

Given that I spent most of my teen year showing horses regionally and pull draft horses and oxen I’m inclined to agree with you about horses. I disagree about spike though I think he’d be a riot to be in a camp with.

We will agree to disagree about Spike. I’ll make sure to not spend money at Takeri Private Reserve.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

We will agree to disagree about Spike. I’ll make sure to not spend money at Takeri Private Reserve.

Best horse I ever owned , could show him all day long in pleasure classes western game him at night (barrels poles ect.) and pull him in single horse pulls. Although admittedly he was to slow to be competitive in the western games. Half Clyde half app.

 

[Neophyte]

I thought most cave drawings were done in charcoal but I guess colour crayons will do in a pinch.

Just give me the green crayons as I need to eat more vegetables according to my Quack.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

We will agree to disagree about Spike. I’ll make sure to not spend money at Takeri Private Reserve.

Your loss

 

[Neophyte]

Your loss

I don’t consider it a loss.

 

[Ed Lally]

I can't imagine the mental gymnastics required to equate the Russian invasion of Ukraine and subsequent devastation, with an assorted smattering of Mexicans, Hondurans, and Guatemalans et al crossing the border.


In other news:

White House seeks plan for possible Russia sanctions relief, sources say

Tariffs on neighbours and allies. Sanctions relief for Russia.
What a time to be alive.

Assorted smattering?? Why don’t you send me an assorted smattering of dollars and change from your 401k? Like 10 or 12 million dollars. Are you serious in your comments? I think not.