Politics

[Brent in Az]

From 2017

 

[Altitude sickness]

The UK needs their own Charles Bronson walking the streets.

 

[CJW]

Not that I would have too much confidence in Farage it does look like his "far right" party is leading in the polls.

Far-right Reform UK to beat Labour to be largest party if elections are held today: Survey

Nigel Farage’s far-right party Reform UK, which just has five MPs currently, will beat the ruling Labour Party to become the largest party if elections are held today, according to a survey

www.firstpost.com

 

[steve white]

A white guy gets harrassed and assaulted, cops stand around and do absolutely nothing, even when another "diverse" foreigner person gets in his face AGAIN as he stands right by the so called law enforcement officers. .

This is precisely why you NEED guns--to level the playing field with retarded cretins like the ones shown in this video. They think they can do anything to anyone if they are physically stronger--and apparently get away with it. I would love to see some young lady justifiably blow several of them away....but they gave up their guns, didn't they? What next, white genocide?

 

[Pheroze]

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[CJW]

I saw a clip of a comedian saying that last year, Canada spent more money on reparation to the natives type stuff than they did on their military. I'll let others look up the facts on that but I would say it sounds plausible.

 

[wesheltonj]

Enlighten me the "proof", please

Trump lost 9-0 on one case, and 7-2 today on another regarding the deportations with no due process. Even republicans judges side against trump, but then trump tells the media he won (even though he lost in court)

The due process that the Maryland man received was that it was proven in court in 2019 that his family was attacked by gangs in El Salvador and that he was allowed to stay in the United States. The court ordered that he is not allowed to be deported to El Salvador as he will likely be killed by the gangs he stood up to. Despite that court order, having a legal wife and kid here, and having a court order that he cannot be deported, which he had proof of, he was deported anyway. On top of that, trump and his administration admitted he was sent there by error.

On top of being sent there in error, trump smiled saying “I don’t have the power to make El Salvador send someone back” while El Salvador president says “I don’t have the power to send a terrorist into the United states” (even though it’s been proven in court that he is not a terrorist, but besides the point)

it won’t be long if no one stands up to him before trump starts sending American citizens to El Salvador prison for saying things about trump he doesn’t like. For a man who claims to be pro free speech, he sure does a lot of cracking down on anyone who says something he doesn’t like.

I considered myself pretty Republican before trump ran for president in 2016. He is a disgrace to the party, to family values, and to the bottom 99.9% of the countries earners. Never thought I’d willingly vote democrat but I’ll happily vote against any pro trump Republican candidate, even donate to democrat campaigns if the particular candidate is willing to not be pushy on the gun laws.

The people who refused to stand was not because the kid was a brain cancer survivor, it was because that was the same day Trump took all cancer research funding away, and tried to use (successfully) that kid as a publicity stunt to distract from the fact he just took that kid’s cancer research away, making it so if the cancer comes back that kid might die when he may not have if they find any breakthroughs. Which I might add, happen all the time.

There is also no evidence that the guy they’re trying to get back was in a gang, or that he beat his wife. In fact, there was a trial in 2019 that found that he stood up against the gang to protect his family, and that is why he would not be safe being returned to el salvador. The gang he stood up against would come after him and likely kill him.

This is what happens when you only watch one news source. REGARDLESS of where you stand politically, everyone should watch an equal amount of news from each side of the isle, as both sides are famous for covering up the dirty deeds of the other side. There is no good side, only different sides of the same evil coin. Don’t protect one side and attack the other, protect the people and attack the news sources and politicians for not doing what they were voted in/hired by the people to do.

(1)The standing was regarding the original posters election cases not immigration cases.

(2) the “Maryland Man” received a deportation hearing, was found to be an MS13 member, ordered deported. He appealed, again found to be A MS13 member, lost his appeal and ordered deported. He was not to be deported to El Salvador, because of a rival gang. He could have been deported to any other country that would take him. He has allowed to stay in the US because the rival gang. He still has a valid deportation order. Nothing is going to change that order. The rival gang no longer exists in El Salvador and could be sent there now.

 

[rigbymauser]

If we are being completely realistic, please enlighten me as to what war was ever fought in which allies did so out of the kindness of their hearts? EVERY war in world history that was fought with allied help was done so out of mutually beneficial, if not totally selfish reasons for each of the parties involved.... France and GB had been enemies on and off for centuries.... Great Britian was a mutual enemy of France and the U.S. Colonies during the Revolutionary War... Suffice to say, France had lots of self-serving reasons to ally and help the Colonies defeat GB...

Your condescending, arrogant, and frankly disrespectful assertion above is no surprise coming from a European... I always find it interestingly funny how you all talk shit about us until you need us... And mark my words, sooner or later you will need us again... If the Ukraine-Russian war has proved anything, it's that the EU in its entirety still cannot defend itself without American help...

I am not trying talk down the many lives that went lost during the two world wars to achieve peace. It was horrible. Most europeans actually learn this in their high schools. In case people forget there are lots of graveyards ovrhere to remind But all countries who goes to war has a political selfinterest. What do we get out it?. America is not an altruistic country.

In regards to all this “ you can not defend yourselves you need us from america”. The truth is “yes”. But what you have not been taught is Europe has on on 2-3 occasions since 1945 tried to become independed from the US in regards to build up a strong military force, but was stopped by the US in doing so. The previous political america didn’t want a strong europe. It was so funny to hear Mr. Trump expressing his lack of history here the other day in regards to why the establishment of the EU. One could only laugh but just a little as this idiote and his juvenile administration may try to ruin it for us, but also ruined for you. Atleast you get the MAGA hats and we don’t.

Since you will cut all europeans over the same ruler as me who are obvious arrogant and disrespectful let me tell how we see you guys. We sort of have a saying overhere that americans and europeans are equally stupid, but the americans have never tried to hide it!.

 

[spike.t]

Early turnout shatters record in Canada polls with 7.3m ballots cast

Elections Canada, the organisation which runs federal elections, reports a 25% jump when compared to early voting in 2021 polls.

www.bbc.com

 

[Tam Dl]

I saw a clip of a comedian saying that last year, Canada spent more money on reparation to the natives type stuff than they did on their military. I'll let others look up the facts on that but I would say it sounds plausible.

It is plausible, there was one huge bill Trudy paid on the way out. 20 billion. It is like everything else, you crash the economy to crash the people. Same thing with his lies on residential schools. Slightly different MO. However, I don't know if they have delivered on the cash, or it is just a promise to unfold at some future time.

Though I would say that given that only the US has ever invaded Canada, and that we were something like 5 years combined early for the world wars, taught the US on spycraft and SF, our way was paid. Plus when we show up for joint operations we tend to get bombed.

Of course past history.

As far as I can figure out, the current unpleasantness is due to the fact China has excess influence with the Liberals, same deal over the Huawei mess post 2016. Yet dozy Canadian voters want to up their street cred by bringing a more connected leader Who will be "tough" unless you are Chinese Communist Adjacent. Might be the right move, Bannon seemed a little beaten on AI the other day.

 

[Tam Dl]

I am not trying talk down the many lives that went lost during the two world wars to achieve peace. It was horrible. Most europeans actually learn this in their high schools. In case people forget there are lots of graveyards ovrhere to remind But all countries who goes to war has a political selfinterest. What do we get out it?. America is not an altruistic country.

In regards to all this “ you can not defend yourselves you need us from america”. The truth is “yes”. But what you have not been taught is Europe has on on 2-3 occasions since 1945 tried to become independed from the US in regards to build up a strong military force, but was stopped by the US in doing so. The previous political america didn’t want a strong europe. It was so funny to hear Mr. Trump expressing his lack of history here the other day in regards to why the establishment of the EU. One could only laugh but just a little as this idiote and his juvenile administration may try to ruin it for us, but also ruined for you. Atleast you get the MAGA hats and we don’t.

Since you will cut all europeans over the same ruler as me who are obvious arrogant and disrespectful let me tell how we see you guys. We sort of have a saying overhere that americans and europeans are equally stupid, but the americans have never tried to hide it!.

The US myth is that they won both world wars and did it for freedom. They were massively late, particularly in WWI, so late, the French leadership that was feeding and supplying them, regardless of what fantasies Mike Venturino has about US equipment for WWI, had to shame them to get them to go to the front. Asking whether they only intended to show up for the talks at the end. Brilliant, but they needed some street cred first.

And it was a smart play. Show up late. Let other people win it for you, take over the British role, though different because the US is the most blessed land on earth, and actually has most of what they need. The myth would have been a stupid strategy, the practicality was smart. I like my allies smart.

 

[BSO Dave]

In regards to all this “ you can not defend yourselves you need us from america”. The truth is “yes”. But what you have not been taught is Europe has on on 2-3 occasions since 1945 tried to become independed from the US in regards to build up a strong military force, but was stopped by the US in doing so. The previous political america didn’t want a strong europe. It was so funny to hear Mr. Trump expressing his lack of history here the other day in regards to why the establishment of the EU. One could only laugh but just a little as this idiote and his juvenile administration may try to ruin it for us, but also ruined for you. Atleast you get the MAGA hats and we don’t.

I have no idea where you acquired your assertion that the U.S. never wanted a strong Europe capable of defending itself? I would like to hear specific examples of this because if that were indeed true, I don't see the U.S. ever allowing France or Great Britian to acquire nuclear weapons... Furthermore, the U.S currently has nuclear weapons positioned throughout several more EU countries via the NATO Nuclear Sharing Agreement...

In as much as your assertions of Trump not understanding the history behind the establishment of the EU, I would say he has a laser clear understanding of at least two very important concepts: One being how European tariffs have been extremely lopsided for decades, and the other being that the EU has not been paying its fair share for their NATO defense which, by the way, contradicts your theory that the U.S. does not want a strong EU capable of defending itself...

Please also enlighten me as to what you think Trump is ruing for you? If the Trump Administration has as much power and control over EU affairs as you allege, that is further proof that you are all collectively too dependent on the U.S... Hopefully, Trump will soon fix that situation for both of us...

Since you will cut all europeans over the same ruler as me who are obvious arrogant and disrespectful let me tell how we see you guys. We sort of have a saying overhere that americans and europeans are equally stupid, but the americans have never tried to hide it!.

I don't think you Europeans fully comprehend that a majority of Americans could care less what Europeans think of them, hence your arrogance... Most of us view Europe as the crash test dummy for liberalism... I understand that even after all of these years it still must be difficult to admit that if it weren't for us "stupid" Americans you would all be speaking German or Russian... And I agree that we Americans are equally stupid, at least to the extent that we will be there to bail your asses out again the next time... The caveat is that if it were to occur within the next 3 years and 9 months, you will have the privilege of paying for it...

The US myth is that they won both world wars and did it for freedom. They were massively late, particularly in WWI, so late, the French leadership that was feeding and supplying them, regardless of what fantasies Mike Venturino has about US equipment for WWI, had to shame them to get them to go to the front. Asking whether they only intended to show up for the talks at the end. Brilliant, but they needed some street cred first.

And it was a smart play. Show up late. Let other people win it for you, take over the British role, though different because the US is the most blessed land on earth, and actually has most of what they need. The myth would have been a stupid strategy, the practicality was smart. I like my allies smart.

This perspective is quite frankly narrow and disrespectful to the tens of thousands of Americans who never came back from WWI or WW2... They went when they were called and fought very bravely for the concept of freedom regardless of what you think the underlying politics of it were...

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

With roughly 1 in 6 Canadians voting in the early polls this election is shaping up to have the highest voter turn out in decades.

 

[steve white]

I have no idea where you acquired your assertion that the U.S. never wanted a strong Europe capable of defending itself? I would like to hear specific examples of this because if that were indeed true, I don't see the U.S. ever allowing France or Great Britian to acquire nuclear weapons... Furthermore, the U.S currently has nuclear weapons positioned throughout several more EU countries via the NATO Nuclear Sharing Agreement...

In as much as your assertions of Trump not understanding the history behind the establishment of the EU, I would say he has a laser clear understanding of at least two very important concepts: One being how European tariffs have been extremely lopsided for decades, and the other being that the EU has not been paying its fair share for their NATO defense which, by the way, contradicts your theory that the U.S. does not want a strong EU capable of defending itself...

Please also enlighten me as to what you think Trump is ruing for you? If the Trump Administration has as much power and control over EU affairs as you allege, that is further proof that you are all collectively too dependent on the U.S... Hopefully, Trump will soon fix that situation for both of us...



I don't think you Europeans fully comprehend that a majority of Americans could care less what Europeans think of them, hence your arrogance... Most of us view Europe as the crash test dummy for liberalism... I understand that even after all of these years it still must be difficult to admit that if it weren't for us "stupid" Americans you would all be speaking German or Russian... And I agree that we Americans are equally stupid, at least to the extent that we will be there to bail your asses out again the next time... The caveat is that if it were to occur within the next 3 years and 9 months, you will have the privilege of paying for it...



This perspective is quite frankly narrow and disrespectful to the tens of thousands of Americans who never came back from WWI or WW2... They went when they were called and fought very bravely for the concept of freedom regardless of what you think the underlying politics of it were...

I can only imagine that TamDi was referencing opposition to GERMAN rearmament, since they were major players in two world wars two decades apart. Many German firearms firms had to go to pellet gun manufacture or make other things altogether, like bicycles and domestic implements.

 

[spike.t]

With roughly 1 in 6 Canadians voting in the early polls this election is shaping up to have the highest voter turn out in decades.

From the news item I posted it seems the liberals were in front in the polls unfortunately.....

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

From the news item I posted it seems the liberals were in front in the polls unfortunately.....

5 point lead currently unfortunately is an understatement.

 

[rigbymauser]

I can only imagine that TamDi was referencing opposition to GERMAN rearmament, since they were major players in two world wars two decades apart. Many German firearms firms had to go to pellet gun manufacture or make other things altogether, like bicycles and domestic implements.

Here is the best (shortest)explanation I could find:

As stated before here on this forum. Lots of europeans wants independence from US military presence but still see US as an allied and trading partner. Europe has the same problems with China as US has but maybe just in a lesser scale.

Just heard an older danish former CEO here today expressing his views in regards to Trump and the problems the US already have:

- China has stolen upwards 2,5mill jobs from the US in the past 30 years.
- China steal patents from the US and violate protectionrights.
- China export ingredients to Mexiland for fentanyl export to the US.
- China establish productionplants in Mexiland to overflow the US with cheap items.
so the US worker can not compete on equal terms.
- Mexiland emty their lowest regions to make them across the Rio Grande. They work illegal or recieve welfare but they also weire more than 12bill USD goes back to Mexi.
-In case of war(examble China) a majority of all medical supplies are made in China.
-Eu tariffs are higher on certain items, but with the BigTech companies its the other way around. The US makes the best BBQ chickens in the world, why don`t we see them overhere?.
- Why does EU keep spending money on Putins warmachine with buying oil & gas, when Trump has offered the EU better prices?. Why should the US help EU with war in Russia if EU are fighting against their own "economics"?.

This was a 32 min interview. Just to make clear. Many(some) Europeans do see the problems the US and EU have that must be dealt with.

 

[rigbymauser]

I don't think you Europeans fully comprehend that a majority of Americans could care less what Europeans think of them, hence your arrogance... Most of us view Europe as the crash test dummy for liberalism... I understand that even after all of these years it still must be difficult to admit that if it weren't for us "stupid" Americans you would all be speaking German or Russian... And I agree that we Americans are equally stupid, at least to the extent that we will be there to bail your asses out again the next time... The caveat is that if it were to occur within the next 3 years and 9 months, you will have the privilege of paying for it...

Most americans barely know much about anything outside their country and sometimes even outside their own state. So no I don`t expect americans to even care we even exist. And maybe its for the better.

 

[Wheels]

.... Europe has the same problems with China as US has but maybe just in a lesser scale....

Europe's trade deficit with China is pretty close to equal Europe's trade surplus with America.

In the end, most countries will probably come to an agreement with America. As part of that agreement, most countries will probably be set in a much better position regarding China. There will be a massive squeeze put on China that China will have a hard time dealing with, since China has a 1T trade surplus with the world. If Europe has the fortitude to follow through in addressing China along with a deal with America, things should wash out fairly well for Europe.

 

[Wheels]

Most americans barely know much about anything outside their country and sometimes even outside their own state. So no I don`t expect americans to even care we even exist. And maybe its for the better.

There are definitely a number of ignorant American's, but it is hyperbole to use the term "most".