Pre War Mauser in Schuler Caliber 11.2x72

[grand veneur]

I also used the loading data from the cartridge 404 Jeffery to reload the cartridge 11,2x72 Schüler and also to shot a buffalo. The 401gr RN SN bullet from Woodleigh worked, but broke in the game. I was able to observe something similar when shooting buffalos with the cartridge 10,75x68 and its classic bullet 22,5g FMJ bullet. For this reason I initially wanted to compare the cartridge 11,2x72 Schüler to the cartridge 10,75x68 rather than with the cartridge 404 Jeffery, but with good bullets it will certainly be completely different.

 

[grand veneur]

Is this the cartridge that is popular to this day in a particular Swiss Canton? I remember reading about an obscure cartridge that was beloved by the Swiss.

Kanton Graubünden

10,3x60R

 

[Red Leg]

Kanton Graubünden

10,3x60R

I believe it is essentially identical to the old 450/400 2 3/8 inch BPE?

 

[rookhawk]

I believe it is essentially identical to the old 450/400 2 3/8 inch BPE?

That's the one. Thanks @Red Leg and @grand veneur

 

[Red Leg]

That's the one. Thanks @Red Leg and @grand veneur

Would seem to be just the thing for potting the odd Ibex?!?

 

[grand veneur]

It is a special hunting law that only applies to the canton of Graubünden and not to the rest of Switzerland. The use of calibers over 10,2 mm is required by law for larger game species. The cartridge 10,3 x60R has established itself as the standard cartridge over the years, but the use of the cartridge 11,2x72 Schüler would also be permitted.

Art. 13
Jagdwaffen
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Es dürfen folgende Jagdwaffen verwendet werden:

a) *	für die Hoch- und Steinwildjagd: Büchsen mit einem Kugellauf ohne Magazin, Kaliber mindestens 10,2 mm

LexWork

 

[RayAtkinson]

Ses,
I shot those loads in my original Jefferys with a 29" barrel and another 1908 Mauser custom for many years? Pressure was in the 55-60 PS

 

[Grumpy gumpy]

I believe it is essentially identical to the old 450/400 2 3/8 inch BPE?

It is the same, I have a 450/400 2 3/8 on a large frame martini, mine is obviously a black powder rifle though.
gumpy

 

[Moosemind]

Hallo HWL,

I don't know. Wim Degol informed me that his bullets have a wall thickness of 1,8mm at the base which perhaps is not ideal for the cartridge 11,2x60.

As far as I understood him, he would produce FMJ bullets but also SP bullets for another customer. The SP bullets may perhaps look different.

I corresponded with Mr Degol and he said he would import 11.2x72 Schuler bullets into the US but needs a $10k minimum order to make import paperwork worth his while. I may do it alone or gather rifle owners together to group fund it.

 

[grand veneur]

I can hardly help you in the USA, because I live not very far from the Belgian border.

Mr. Degol has said some of us that he would eventually be ready to produce a few hundred SP and FMJ bullets caliber .440/11,2mm for the cartridge 11,2x72 Schüler. I am not so sure if that is possible and so I think that if something more bullets are ordered from your side in the USA, he can to start with the production.

 

[grand veneur]

Mr. Wim Degol made FMJ bullets for me. Good piece of work with a crimp groove on the right place. Perfect OAL for a classic magazine.

 

[Riflecrank]

11.2 x 72mm Schuler always catches my eye, then I move on like OP did.
I saved this from Harald Wolf, IIRC, might be interesting to go look through the HATARI TIMES again ...

 

[Yukontom]

Mr. Wim Degol made FMJ bullets for me. Good piece of work with a crimp groove on the right place. Perfect OAL for a classic magazine.

Any idea if he is shipping any to the US?

 

[grand veneur]

Any idea if he is shipping any to the US?

According to the post #49 there seems to be problems.

 

[Huvius]

I found some photos of my 11.2 Schuler - thought I would share them here.

 

[Huvius]

Here are my bullets I make from 7.62X39 brass.
I may have posted these somewhere here on AH but don't recall - anyway, it serves as an example that when there is a will, there's a way! I know that many hunters have employed just this technique when bullets are scarce - .375s from 223 brass for example.

 

[cajunchefray]

Here are my bullets I make from 7.62X39 brass.
I may have posted these somewhere here on AH but don't recall - anyway, it serves as an example that when there is a will, there's a way! I know that many hunters have employed just this technique when bullets are scarce - .375s from 223 brass for example.

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Very nice Schuler Mauser.

Always been fascinated by bullets made from other cartridge brass.
Can you explain the process?
Lead core alloy formula, swaging techniques, bonding, bullet performance, e.g. penetration and expansion?

Thank you for your insight.

 

[Lumaberpat]

Forgive my ignorance but would it not be simpler and a cheaper, simpler, and produce a similar outcome to have someone make hardcast lead bullets, or you could hire a CNC lathe and turn out solid bullets?

 

[PerH]

I think there is kits to make bonded bullet of that kind also , that would make them a good option also . Good to see the el cheapo over there AK brass as basis of other components also.