Requesting help with DIY spring bear hunt in Montana or Idaho

[5shot]

I live in Spokane and have family in Old Town. I also frequent North Idaho regularly.

 

[Sabre]

I think you are right to be concerned about grizzlies, especially having your son with you. I'm not saying you should never go into areas with grizzlies, but the advice that they aren't dangerous is patently ridiculous.

If I had a young person with me, I would maybe consider somewhere where the average slope wasn't so aggressive as Idaho tends to be.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I think you are right to be concerned about grizzlies, especially having your son with you. I'm not saying you should never go into areas with grizzlies, but the advice that they aren't dangerous is patently ridiculous.

If I had a young person with me, I would maybe consider somewhere where the average slope wasn't so aggressive as Idaho tends to be.

Never said grizzlies aren't dangerous. But statistics show that the black bears the OP and his son intend to hunt are more dangerous. They are more likely to stalk and kill you. Rarely will grizzlies do that. They are more dangerous in surprise confrontations. And grizzlies are certainly much less dangerous than driving to the grocery store ... or the cemetery. In fact, this afternoon I was nearly creamed coming back from the grocery store when some nut blew a red light at the intersection crossing Trans Canada freeway. I'm much safer living with grizzlies than a city full of humans!

For over five months every day I worked in Alaska around scores of brown/grizzly bears. Sometimes within six feet of them. On average probably no more than fifty yards. I had only five incidents that I can recall offhand. Never deployed my bear spray. Those were pretty much all "habituated" bears ... which I think are the most dangerous. Too unpredictable. Real wild grizzlies do not cause me anxiety ... if the encounter is mutually without surprise. Incidents of wild grizzlies attacking more than one person together are pretty much unheard of. Bluff charges are not unheard of but a grizzly actually tearing into a group of people ... no.

I'm in pretty good shape for my age but I'm not playing basketball with fifteen year-olds. They'll kick my arse. I'm sure they could also handle the hills of central Idaho better than most of us.

 

[Sabre]

Never said grizzlies aren't dangerous. But statistics show that the black bears the OP and his son intend to hunt are more dangerous. They are more likely to stalk and kill you. Rarely will grizzlies do that. They are more dangerous in surprise confrontations. And grizzlies are certainly much less dangerous than driving to the grocery store ... or the cemetery. In fact, this afternoon I was nearly creamed coming back from the grocery store when some nut blew a red light at the intersection crossing Trans Canada freeway. I'm much safer living with grizzlies than a city full of humans!

For over five months every day I worked in Alaska around scores of brown/grizzly bears. Sometimes within six feet of them. On average probably no more than fifty yards. I had only five incidents that I can recall offhand. Never deployed my bear spray. Those were pretty much all "habituated" bears ... which I think are the most dangerous. Too unpredictable. Real wild grizzlies do not cause me anxiety ... if the encounter is mutually without surprise. Incidents of wild grizzlies attacking more than one person together are pretty much unheard of. Bluff charges are not unheard of but a grizzly actually tearing into a group of people ... no.

I'm in pretty good shape for my age but I'm not playing basketball with fifteen year-olds. They'll kick my arse. I'm sure they could also handle the hills of central Idaho better than most of us.

I disagree with the vast majority of what you said and there is evidence out there that disproves much of it. But I already know that you won't change your mind, so it isn't worth discussing it with you. We can just disagree and that's fine.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I disagree with the vast majority of what you said and there is evidence out there that disproves much of it. But I already know that you won't change your mind, so it isn't worth discussing it with you. We can just disagree and that's fine.

Right. Have you ever encountered a grizzly bear ... outside of a zoo or your car window? I didn't think so. Spokane doesn't have many walking the streets.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I disagree with the vast majority of what you said and there is evidence out there that disproves much of it. But I already know that you won't change your mind, so it isn't worth discussing it with you. We can just disagree and that's fine.

After reading his posts for awhile I can understand why he has first hand experience being bear sprayed.

 

[Sabre]

Right. Have you ever encountered a grizzly bear ... outside of a zoo or your car window? I didn't think so. Spokane doesn't have many walking the streets.

Yes, I have. This might shock you, but other people on this forum also have outdoors experience.

 

[5shot]

Right. Have you ever encountered a grizzly bear ... outside of a zoo or your car window? I didn't think so. Spokane doesn't have many walking the streets.

Nice dig, but he never said he lived in Spokane, I did. Not sure why you have a stick up your butt about trying to insult me. You seem like you’d be real fun at parties.