TANZANIA: Tz Safari Disagreement

[geoff rath]

Awesome thread, no thanks to the O P, but Kudos to Just Gina and Action BOB!!

 

[Sideshow]

That is all I ate every day for 21 days…vegetables. Green ones that do not make me sick so I can hunt.
I have also told outfitters to just make sure there are canned green beans and I’ll be fine. And I hate Caesar salad.

@Just Gina So was doing a 77dayer Nairobi to Cape Town and had this guy who was vegetarian. Was 2000. Anyway we went up to the Gorilla’s and then down through the Serengeti through the western corridor from Lake Victoria. Was a good trip as we came through the hart of the migration, but hard as I was trying to get this guy fresh veggies every day. I went out of my way but with no fridge I guess that it wasn’t enough. Pulled into Dar and went to get the pax’s their ferry tickets for Zanzibar as headed back to the truck.
Heres old maté tucking into a hamburger leaning up against this burger vendors place. I saw red grabbed him and had him up against the side of this van. Poor bugger burst into tears, told me that he just had a huge craving when he walked past and could not help himself. I felt really bad for him so brought him an ice cream to cheer him up.
So now he’s got this hamburger in one hand sauce and all running down his arm, ice cream in the other with the same mess going on and I lead him back to the truck with him still blubbering.
The passengers took one look and where like WTF
Still good mates saw him two months ago. He’s no longer a vegetarian
and dose not blame me.
Guess when the body tells you todo something you should listen!
I’m glad you can be catered for, so that you can get out there and do!

 

[Sideshow]

All said and done, she had such bad reactions to the Tsetse flies that she does not want to go back. I hope (and doubt it is) that was not her only opportunity to hunt lion.

At this point I get as much or more joy out of her successfully taking great trophies as taking them myself.

Sherdell, our Outfitter and PH did say that the next time he has a woman on safari, he will bring a porta potty with on the truck So tell your wife she can go with after all

I noticed in the pic above where you guys are having lunch that @Just Gina is wearing blue. Next time try not to wear blue black Tsetse fly and Mosquitoes are attracted to this colour.
I’ve been using this stuff. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Avon-Mosqu...locphy=9045599&hvtargid=pla-565508473398&th=1
works ok you smell nice and have soft skin afterwards lol but I’m sure there are better products.
Try to avoid the blues and blacks though.

 

[HankBuck]

I am! And honestly I do have several regrets from our Tanzania hunt. Gina and I discussed ahead of time which animals we would each target. A lot had to do with what we allready had and also our individual preferences. However if I could go back and do it over, I would have have had her take the lion, Roan and a reedbuck. All said and done, she had such bad reactions to the Tsetse flies that she does not want to go back. I hope (and doubt it is) that was not her only opportunity to hunt lion.

At this point I get as much or more joy out of her successfully taking great trophies as taking them myself.

Sherdell, our Outfitter and PH did say that the next time he has a woman on safari, he will bring a porta potty with on the truck So tell your wife she can go with after all

Action Bob, I understand your “more joy” seeing your Wife take a trophy vs You —- I am the same way whenever hunting with my Son (and one hunt w/Daughter). Regarding your helpful suggestion about telling my Wife of the “porta-potty” - makes perfect sense and more then adequate for “normal folk”.....but unless it’s being pulled behind the truck inside a luxury mobile home - it won’t do. We went hiking in Glacier National Park last year and could never take a trail more then 1-2 hours long just so she could make it back to a bathroom, she even refused to drink water on the trail - preferring to dehydrate then possibly need to “go” outdoors. But other then that little “quirk” she’s Great !

 

[PARA45]

I noticed in the pic above where you guys are having lunch that @Just Gina is wearing blue. Next time try not to wear blue black Tsetse fly and Mosquitoes are attracted to this colour.
I’ve been using this stuff. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Avon-Mosqu...locphy=9045599&hvtargid=pla-565508473398&th=1
works ok you smell nice and have soft skin afterwards lol but I’m sure there are better products.
Try to avoid the blues and blacks though.

Did you have a tough time getting close to the animals you were hunting? Skin so Soft aroma is very strong. Deer here in the US would scent you and be long gone. LOL!!!

 

[Sarg]

To me what taste like chicken was crocodile steak.

What a hard case thread this turned into, very funny & interesting !

On this Croc meat/flesh Wild Croc if larger does not taste like Chicken & I don’t find it very good to eat, I think most folk eat farmed smaller Crocs & these maybe feed on Chickens ?

14footers eating dead Buffalo - Horse or Hippos are not tasty !

 

[PARA45]

@Just Gina, what is your favorite way of making coffee? What kind of machine, pot, percolator, etc, do you use?

 

[PARA45]

What a hard case thread this turned into, very funny & interesting !

On this Croc meat/flesh Wild Croc if larger does not taste like Chicken & I don’t find it very good to eat, I think most folk eat farmed smaller Crocs & these maybe feed on Chickens ?

14footers eating dead Buffalo - Horse or Hippos are not tasty !

Or humans.

 

[buck wild]

PH pulling the tracker off a “fresh track” (trophy Lion, etc.) to toss his clients midday salad

I think that means something else is other circles

 

[buck wild]

Ok I hear the guys saying as long as the hunting is good/great they'll eat sand BUT..... if I'm paying $2,500 TZ day fees, I better be eating good!

When we run WT hunts here in Texas the landowner always makes sure there is a better than average dinner each night in case the hunting was poor. He says that at least the last thing they remembered before going to bed was a great meal, not a slow hunting day. I think there's something to that!

 

[Lone Star Bluegrass]

Dear God they resorted to eating sandwiches! I remember reading that chapter in “The Grapes of Wrath”—truly, a heart wrenching experience.

 

[Just Gina]

@Just Gina, what is your favorite way of making coffee? What kind of machine, pot, percolator, etc, do you use?

My favorite way of making coffee is fast!
I have a commercial Bunn coffee maker. I have used that type of coffee maker for years. I also have a Keurig, but I use that for the occasional flavored coffees.

 

[sureshot375]

The quality of the food is important. It’s part of the experience and there’s a big difference between deer camp with the guys and a safari in Tz.

I will also say that if expectations are at a certain level for the client and it was part of the agreement, then there is a problem that should be addressed.

However, addressing it in this manner and misrepresenting who they are by using someone else’s name shows the character of the OP.

Truth is that I’d be more concerned with the quality of the animals and how the hunt was conducted. The food would be important, but I didn’t travel thousands of miles for a gourmet meal.

Now did we ever establish that OP is pretending to be someone else? Just trying to keep up.

I think food is an important part of any safari because it is one of the few things the outfitter can actually control. It doesn't have to be fancy, but it should be good and there should be plenty of it.

Chicken is always a bit of a disappointment in a safari camp, unless it's properly done over a braai. I love chicken, but if I'm in Africa I'd rather be eating something wild.

I suspect the brevity of the original post and the ambiguity about whether OP was the client may come down to a language barrier. In any event I don't think there is really anything the safari consumer could take away from the original post.

 

[PARA45]

This is my favorite coffee pot, and probably the best way of making coffee over an open fire.

https://www.amazon.com/Coletti-Bozeman-Percolator-Coffee-Pot/dp/B01HZYPQVG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=36W6U1Q62V6GA&keywords=colletti%2B6%2Bcup%2Bcoffee%2Bpercolator&qid=1695396726&sprefix=colletti%2B6%2Bcp%2Bcoffee%2Bpercolator%2Caps%2C202&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&smid=ANI392GL5PDXD&th=1

 

[SFRanger7GP]

This is my favorite coffee pot, and probably the best way of making coffee over an open fire.

https://www.amazon.com/Coletti-Bozeman-Percolator-Coffee-Pot/dp/B01HZYPQVG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=36W6U1Q62V6GA&keywords=colletti%2B6%2Bcup%2Bcoffee%2Bpercolator&qid=1695396726&sprefix=colletti%2B6%2Bcp%2Bcoffee%2Bpercolator%2Caps%2C202&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&smid=ANI392GL5PDXD&th=1

This has been a very interesting, informative and funny thread. I love it. We took something negative and made it fun.

Since I live in the heart of the best coffee zone on the planet over half the year, I have become quite the coffee nerd. I hand grind local beans for each pot and hand pour/brew everything using a V60 or Chemex. I make "bespoke" coffee. You big coffee lovers should consider visiting us and we will take you to a real coffee farm so you can see the whole process.

Safe hunting

 

[R.M.C.]

Actually, I think this thread took a productive direction in spite of its now obvious trolling origin. Leaving aside the frivolity of salads and chicken, I found it interesting to read the various opinions of what comprises a meaningful safari. Clearly, some folks are very concerned about getting adequate bang for the big bucks they spend on safaris (e.g. fancy meals, gold medal horns, etc.). And they probably have standards set in their minds before the adventure begins. So is it really an adventure if the standards are carved in stone? Yes, I would prefer to try more wild meat when I'm there but I'll eat whatever is put on the table. It's always good food (well okay ... the pickled ostrich snack served up at a Kimberly farmhouse was not easy to ingest ... or digest). Safari meals should be like the hunting ... see what turns up and give it a shot.

Yes you're right, it displayed a lot of different views for sure.

 

[R.M.C.]

At least we are having a good time

Got that right lol

 

[PARA45]

This has been a very interesting, informative and funny thread. I love it. We took something negative and made it fun.

Since I live in the heart of the best coffee zone on the planet over half the year, I have become quite the coffee nerd. I hand grind local beans for each pot and hand pour/brew everything using a V60 or Chemex. I make "bespoke" coffee. You big coffee lovers should consider visiting us and we will take you to a real coffee farm so you can see the whole process.

Safe hunting

I was born in Nicaragua, and my grandpa had a small coffee plantation midway up of an old inactive volcano, and I helped pick coffee. One of the ladies from the farm would roast, grind, and make coffee in an old coffee can, over an open fire, and it was the best coffee I had, ever. The closest coffee to what I remember is brewing coffee on the coffee pot I listed over an over fire.

Oh, and yes, I would love to take you up on that offer and smoke a cigar with one/two or three cups of coffee.

 

[375Fox]

I hope the OP revisits this thread. I think this is the AH version of play stupid games win stupid prizes. I think his original post is serving appropriate purposes as he intended.

 

[SFRanger7GP]

I was born in Nicaragua, and my grandpa had a small coffee plantation midway up of an old inactive volcano, and I helped pick coffee. One of the ladies from the farm would roast, grind, and make coffee in an old coffee can, over an open fire, and it was the best coffee I had, ever. The closest coffee to what I remember is brewing coffee on the coffee pot I listed over an over fire.

Oh, and yes, I would love to take you up on that offer and smoke a cigar with one/two or three cups of coffee.

They still do the "cafe campesino" (farmer's coffee) here. We celebrated our town's 140th anniversary this year. "140 years unmarred by change" would have been a great motto.

Safe hunting