Wayne LaPierre resigns from the NRA

[TOBY458]

If you want a good laugh, watch Wayne's elephant hunting video on YT.

 

[Milo]

If you want a good laugh, watch Wayne's elephant hunting video on YT.

It is so bad. Embarrassing.

 

[Datchew]

I've always been curious if reform is ever successful or even possible with organizations. It seems better to dump them and move to support something similar with less baggage and corruption than to waste resources and frustration hoping to return to the good ole days.

It would take a severe and stark amount of change to get me back to donating to them.

 

[uplander01]

Never liked the guy.

 

[PerH]

Here the media say he was the one preventing people that wanted more stricter gun laws , and since he is gone it’s open and good . Yeah right..

 

[cash_tx]

I've always been curious if reform is ever successful or even possible with organizations. It seems better to dump them and move to support something similar with less baggage and corruption than to waste resources and frustration hoping to return to the good ole days.

It would take a severe and stark amount of change to get me back to donating to them.

I imagine this is where the 80/20 rule applies, where 80% of organizations in decline are beyond recovery while 20% might have a chance.

 

[Troubleshooter]

Personally, I say good riddance. Hopefully NRA members will elect someone we can be proud to stand behind (or really someone who stands behind us) who is notable, intelligent, and above reproach.

I agree, this is great news. He should have left years ago. But they still need to clean house on the BoD and reduce its size to a manageable number.

 

[Hunt anything]

Beat me to the post. I’m a life member, however I haven’t donated in the past several years due to his leadership or lack thereof.

My feelings for the NRA exactly, life member that hasn’t donated in years, will rethink depending on the new leadership.

 

[JimP]

I kind of wonder at times that if the NRA is so bad why do so many members on here from different countries say that they wished that they had a origination just like them?

 

[mdwest]

I kind of wonder at times that if the NRA is so bad why do so many members on here from different countries say that they wished that they had a origination just like them?

I think its a matter of perspective..

While the NRA is largely ineffective (IMO) at meeting its mission requirements.. it does at least to some degree represent gun owners..

In many countries there is no organization available to represent gun owners... so while largely ineffective, it is still better than nothing.. which is what exists in most other places..

In most countries firearms ownership is a privilege.. in the US it is a right as defined by our constitution.. so.. any organization in other countries would really be fighting for an expansion of privilege as opposed to defending a constitutionally protected right..

 

[JimP]

There are a lot of politicians that have a D or a I after their name that are afraid of what the NRA can muster as far as voting them in or out of office.

If it wasn't for the NRA having the membership to be able to do that a lot of the D's would of stripped us of the majority of the gun rights that we have now.

The NRA isn't perfect, but what political group that is fighting for our rights is?

 

[Hunt anything]

I kind of wonder at times that if the NRA is so bad why do so many members on here from different countries say that they wished that they had a origination just like them?

I guess they think that any advocacy for gun rights is better than none?

 

[mdwest]

None are perfect..

But I'd maintain that many are far more efficient and have proven themselves equally effective (if not more effective) at fighting for our rights.. with a fraction of the budget...

it wasnt the NRA that went to war with the ATF over the pistol brace issue.. it was the FPC and a couple of other smaller organizations..

It wasnt the GOA that supported banning of firearms in Virginia restaurants.. it was the NRA that did that in order to gain political points that they thought they could cash in elsewhere.. the GOA fought that BS arduously..

I'd venture if you put the NRA's budget into the GOA, FPC, and SAF, we'd see MANY more lawsuits filed against the gun grabbers.. MANY more fights in congress where the D's were truly afraid of what gun lobbyists could muster against them, etc..etc..

Dont get me wrong.. I have been a member of the NRA since my early 20's.. I have volunteered at 2x NRA conventions, and will volunteer at the convention in Dallas this year again.. I even dated one of the NRA's attorneys for a little while back when I lived in the DC metro area and spent a good bit of time running around their HQ, talking to leadership, etc..

But I also recognize what the organization once was, what it has become, and what it has the potential to be.. and realize that sadly what it has become is a bloviated, inefficient, self licking ice cream cone that doesnt produce nearly as much value for American gun owners as it should considering its budget and its resources..

I am hopeful with Wayne finally leaving that it will make the appropriate changes and get back on track in the near future..

 

[Woodcarver]

I've been a life member for 46+ years now. Despite Wayne's personal foibles and mismanagement in the last decade or two, the NRA has been the oldest and most effective civil rights organization in this country. It is still one of the most effective means for my voice to be heard in DC. Hopefully, those board members who have been trying to get him out, can now put the organization back on track to do what it is supposed to do; speak for "we the people" in regards to upholding and protecting our 2A.
Personally, I want to see it become less willing to support any compromise (that always moves us left). Every time I hear the term "common sense" in regards to why some piece of legislation should be passed, I cringe. Common sense is in fact, what is missing every single time. My sense is, that is why the NRA has been struggling, while other gun rights organizations have been growing; most of them are taking a hard line stance that any compromise is an erosion of our rights. Wayne LaPierre was too willing to negotiate. Glad he is gone, now let us hope the BoD can right the ship; it is far from sunk.

 

[rookhawk]

NRA Life Member, Life Benefactor Member, Life Patron Member, Life Whatever Member. Donated max to NRA at each level short of Eagle ($50k-$100k or more?)

Haven't given them a cent in ten years because of Wayne's behaviors, one of America's worst kept secrets.

My advice: Join Gun Owners of America that has low operational overhead, tangible litigation results, and has avoided inappropriate marketing of tacky and unethical products as a secondary profit center.

 

[Red Leg]

This is not a good particularly good look for the organization either.

Former NRA executive pleads guilty to fraud, agrees to testify in New York AG trial

Former National Rifle Association operations director Joshua Powell has settled civil claims of fraud and abuse brought by the New York Attorney General's office. The admission comes hours after Wayne LaPierre, the executive vice president of the NRA, announced his resignation ahead of a trial...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Jim Golden]

I met Wayne in Seattle in 1997 or 1998. He wasn't a bad opening speaker at the rally we attended for this bogus Initiative 676 (I think it was) to ban handguns in WA state. The real speaker was The Man, Himself, Charlton Heston. My buddy and I got down there early so we stood 3' in front of the podium. I actually got to talk to Heston a little bit. Seemed like a really cool guy and he had the most charisma of anyone I've ever met....bar none. Well, he was Moses AND Ben Hur But, it seems like Wayne has gone downhill a bit since then.... I live two hours from Fairfax. I'm just an engineer who likes to build rifles and shoot rocks. What would I have to do to get on with them and try to help out?

 

[Jim Golden]

Let me add....my dream is to come to Africa and get a dagga boy....but for now it's rocks and cardboard boxes!

 

[jpr9954]

This is not a good particularly good look for the organization either.

Former NRA executive pleads guilty to fraud, agrees to testify in New York AG trial

Former National Rifle Association operations director Joshua Powell has settled civil claims of fraud and abuse brought by the New York Attorney General's office. The admission comes hours after Wayne LaPierre, the executive vice president of the NRA, announced his resignation ahead of a trial...

www.yahoo.com

Josh apparently now lives in San Juan, PR.

Here is a bullet point summation of his deal with the NYAG's Office.

https://onlygunsandmoney.com/2024/01/06/josh-powell-get-his-deal-from-ny-ag.html

 

[cwpayton]

congrats redlegs that post made me laugh outloud .first time all day.