Why not a Dangerous Game lever?

[358 Norma]

I would think a Browning long action BLR could be made in the 416 Talor, 375 Ruger, or 416 Ruger.

 

[rookhawk]

I would think a Browning long action BLR could be made in the 416 Talor, 375 Ruger, or 416 Ruger.

In order of power to extract stuck cases, the order would go like this:

1.) Double rifle extractor
2.) CRF bolt gun
3.) PF bolt gun / lever gun
4.) Pump/Slide Action
5.) Semi-Auto

I think that answers the question above as to why certain calibers in certain actions weren't/aren't used. I certainly would want a very low pressure cartridge in a BLR, one lower than found in other actions.

 

[Hunter-Habib]

I don't doubt the extractors failed but I dispute the conditions were part of it as same or worse here and no failures due to the conditions. Most likely the person has hot loaded the ammo or the factory ammo couldn't handle any heat. Result a stuck case, a Sako extractor would probably jump the extractor grove rim, same result. With Rem extractors it also depends on when they were made as Rem went through a few years where quality control did not seem to exist and if the latter ones you could carry a spare and just put it in yourself. I still wonder why Rem stayed with such a small extractor when going to larger diameter cases.

Re Sako extractors, the only reason they don't break is they are thicker than the Rem's but have the same griping area and will jump over a rim if extraction is tight. The Sako's or any extractor that is a rotating extractor will eventually wear through. Have read of Sako extractors doing this, very high volume usage I would expect. The M16 design is a far better extractor than the Sako IMHO.

Update:

The .416 Remington Magnum was loaded with Barnes TSX 400Gr factory loads when it failed.

The 7mm Remington Magnum was loaded with Federal Power Shok 175Gr factory loads when it failed. But it had been previously given 25 years of regular service before the extractor broke.

My current dangerous game rifle is a Remington Model 700 Kevlar Stock Custom in .375 Holland & Holland Magnum. I had McBride's Gun Works fit an M16 extractor to the rifle for more reliable extraction.

I agree with your sentiments about the Remington Model 700 factory extractor being too small. That (and Remington's unsafe factory trigger mechanism) is an example of how Remington prioritized cost cutting measures over making a more reliable product. Nevertheless, the things are damned accurate which is why I continue to use (a highly modified) one.

 

[Sideshow]

Maybe this has been brought up somewhere else...

I have hunting shows on TV this afternoon, while working on rifles. It's raining hard and seems like a good "work on guns" day.

There is a show I am not familiar with on The Sportsman Channel - Gateway to Africa. One of the PHs, Francois Nels, had a Marlin .45-70 on the table in front of him while he was talking, and there was footage of him hiking and talking, carrying the same rifle.

How’s the BLR .416 conversion going?
Really interested to see your results.
Cheers
SS

 

[Sideshow]

In order of power to extract stuck cases, the order would go like this:

1.) Double rifle extractor
2.) CRF bolt gun
3.) PF bolt gun / lever gun
4.) Pump/Slide Action
5.) Semi-Auto

I think that answers the question above as to why certain calibers in certain actions weren't/aren't used. I certainly would want a very low pressure cartridge in a BLR, one lower than found in other actions.

Hey @rookhawk would you mind going into more detail please on your last sentence about low pressure with the BLR.
Cheers
SS

 

[Altitude sickness]

I think Rem model 700 and the Win model 70 push feed year models. are more accurate is partially due to slightly faster trigger lock times of the push feed design. Every millisecond that lock is in motion degrades accuracy.