Zimbabwe Elephant Hunts “Management Bulls” -

[rookhawk]

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I've visited @Tokoloshe Safaris camp. I would say their fly camp with on-suite shower and toilet is the nicest I've seen in Zimbabwe. A+++ accommodation and hospitality.

Their elephant are a small bodied race with smaller ivory, but they are literally 1/3rd the price of alternatives.

If somebody wants to kill an elephant but their budget is roughly what you'd spend on an RSA high-fence plains game safari, you ought to hunt with @Tokoloshe Safaris

If you want an $80,000-type elephant hunt for 60lb-80lb ivory, this is not the place for you and frankly, what did you expect for $15k-$20k? Set reasonable expectations and they will definitely exceed how far your dollars can go anywhere else.

 

[Rare Breed]

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This elephant was shot yesterday we still have 2 tags

No wonder I am such a fan of Tokoloshe !!!!! Well done!!!

 

[Rare Breed]

I've visited @Tokoloshe Safaris camp. I would say their fly camp with on-suite shower and toilet is the nicest I've seen in Zimbabwe. A+++ accommodation and hospitality.

Their elephant are a small bodied race with smaller ivory, but they are literally 1/3rd the price of alternatives.

If somebody wants to kill an elephant but their budget is roughly what you'd spend on an RSA high-fence plains game safari, you ought to hunt with @Tokoloshe Safaris

If you want an $80,000-type elephant hunt for 60lb-80lb ivory, this is not the place for you and frankly, what did you expect for $15k-$20k? Set reasonable expectations and they will definitely exceed how far your dollars can go anywhere else.

Spot on @rookhawk !!

 

[HankBuck]

Spot on @rookhawk !!

@Rare Breed - appreciate info received so far and I’m learning more each day - started from scratch just last week and was referred by a friend to: SANGO WILDLIFE CONSERVANCY in Zimbabwe. If I’m getting this info all correct, they just opened up 4 quota for Non exportable bull elephant up to 30 lbs. trophy fee $5000. Each. The money is suppose to go towards Anti Poaching efforts. Camps are luxury and why the daily fee is $2000 per day and $450 for Observer. Two camps in their hunt area: Inqwe Lodge & Dadiso Camp. The hunt area appears about a 5 hour drive South from Harare. PH is Mark Jansen 593. The camp seems to cater to both hunting and photo safaris and I believe is fairly new - maybe 2-3 years old? The accommodations appeal to my Wife, the Hunting and low price for 30 lb bull appeals to Me. If anyone has specific knowledge - appreciate any details you can share… thank you

 

[Rare Breed]

So for a 10 day hunt $25,000 without observer fee. The comfort of your wife is huge in my opinion as it would be with my wife! If you went on a less expensive hunt for similar tusks you could have a great experience at $17-$18,000 but your wife in my opinion would not enjoy it at all. My recommendation is spend the extra money with your partner in life and ensure she also has a great time!!!!!

 

[Russ16]

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This elephant was shot yesterday we still have 2 tags

For perspective what’s the approximate weight of that ivory? I think it looks great but have no idea what it would weigh.

 

[Tokoloshe Safaris]

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For perspective what’s the approximate weight of that ivory? I think it looks great but have no idea what it would weigh.

These tusks are still in the skull in the ground but will go around [emoji6]lb .

 

[HankBuck]

For perspective what’s the approximate weight of that ivory? I think it looks great but have no idea what it would weigh.

@Russ16 - if the Tusks “look Great” does it matter what they weigh? I know trophy fees can be based on tusk weight so obviously it matters from that standpoint - but as a Hunter, if I liked to “look” of those tusks, and it was an old mature Bull, AND the experience of the Elephant Hunt….tusk weight would really not matter. Comparing it to something I have much more experience with - what my Deer rack “scores” is less important to me then how it looks, if it’s a mature Big bodied buck, and taken during a challenging hunt with a fine shot.

 

[HankBuck]

So for a 10 day hunt $25,000 without observer fee. The comfort of your wife is huge in my opinion as it would be with my wife! If you went on a less expensive hunt for similar tusks you could have a great experience at $17-$18,000 but your wife in my opinion would not enjoy it at all. My recommendation is spend the extra money with your partner in life and ensure she also has a great time!!!!!

@Rare Breed - AGREE, I want this hunt to be even more enjoyable for my Wife then Me - I’ll love the hunt regardless and don’t mind spending extra for some “Luxury” for her. What I’m still trying to decide: Is this the “right place & PH?” Are there other outfits that offer the same or better AND has anyone on AH hunted with such a n outfit & PH? One of the other benefits of the place in Zim I’m looking at is I can tailor this hunt anyway I want - 7 Days - 8 Days - 10 days….will always be $2000-per-day ..and I don’t need to shoot Anything if I choose Not to - No pressure to take an animal, don’t need to Hunt everyday if we decide we want to sight see etc.. It seems more like a Photo & Sight Seeing Safari with the “Option” to shoot an Elephant if I want to….just pay the extra $5000 Trophy Fee if I do.(Unless I have misinterpreted some information? I am still getting clarification on details and asking questions to insure No misunderstanding).

 

[Russ16]

@Russ16 - if the Tusks “look Great” does it matter what they weigh? I know trophy fees can be based on tusk weight so obviously it matters from that standpoint - but as a Hunter, if I liked to “look” of those tusks, and it was an old mature Bull, AND the experience of the Elephant Hunt….tusk weight would really not matter. Comparing it to something I have much more experience with - what my Deer rack “scores” is less important to me then how it looks, if it’s a mature Big bodied buck, and taken during a challenging hunt with a fine shot.

It doesn’t matter and I’ve never measured an animal I shot.

But I don’t always get to see the pictures. So when someone says they shot a 25 or 35 pound elephant I want to be able to picture approximately what that looks like. That’s why I asked.

I know they can be long and skinny or short and thick but just trying to educate so I have an idea of what I’m picturing.

 

[375Fox]

It doesn’t matter and I’ve never measured an animal I shot.

But I don’t always get to see the pictures. So when someone says they shot a 25 or 35 pound elephant I want to be able to picture approximately what that looks like. That’s why I asked.

I know they can be long and skinny or short and thick but just trying to educate so I have an idea of what I’m picturing.

Just something to keep in mind. You really need to see a lot of photos of different angles on elephant trophy photos to judge. You can make a small tusk elephant look big.

 

[HankBuck]

It doesn’t matter and I’ve never measured an animal I shot.

But I don’t always get to see the pictures. So when someone says they shot a 25 or 35 pound elephant I want to be able to picture approximately what that looks like. That’s why I asked.

I know they can be long and skinny or short and thick but just trying to educate so I have an idea of what I’m picturing.

@Russ16 - good point and I guess I do something similar with Deer racks —- when someone says they saw a buck and guesses a “score”—that gives me a rough “reference point” as to how big that rack will look….but I still take a buck based on How-it-looks-to-Me, also the Buck’s age & body size.