ZIMBABWE Hunting Information

[revturbo9967]

I would assure you the game in Zimbabwe is accustomed to the heat and droughts. It is part of life there.

 

[Foxi]

But still illegal...

a directflight to Zimb.with a gun --yes
checkout in Joburg ,gun also, and than further--- no.
Nothing will change with the embargo.
Conditions under the current president are as bad as ever.
@ revturbo
But Kariba has no big elephants.
It is an exception to catch a 40 pounder there.
@ Jäger IVo
if you are independent of time and want to go to Hangwe.
Ask for the" Black Train" and then get on the plane when they are there

 

[Jäger_Ivo]

a directflight to Zimb.with a gun --yes
checkout in Joburg ,gun also, and than further--- no.
Nothing will change with the embargo.
Conditions under the current president are as bad as ever.
@ revturbo
But Kariba has no big elephants.
It is an exception to catch a 40 pounder there.
@ Jäger IVo
if you are independent of time and want to go to Hangwe.
Ask for the" Black Train" and then get on the plane when they are there

BESCHLUSS 2011/101/GASP DES RATES vom 15. Februar 2011 über restriktive Maßnahmen angesichts der Lage in Simbabwe.

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(1) Der Verkauf, die Lieferung, die Weitergabe oder die Ausfuhr von Rüstungsgütern und damit verbundenem Material jeglicher Art, einschließlich Waffen und Munition, Militärfahrzeugen und -ausrüstung, paramilitärischer Ausrüstung und entsprechender Ersatzteile sowie Ausrüstungen, die zur internen Repression verwendet werden könnten, an bzw. nach Simbabwe
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Besitzen Sie einen EU-Pass? Dann spielt es keine Rolle, wohin Sie reisen und wie oft Sie umsteigen.

Do you have an EU passport? Then it doesn't matter where you travel and how many times you transfer.

 

[Foxi]

The sale, delivery, transfer or export of the goods..............

You see problems where there are none.
Hunting weapons are neither delivery nor export.
Countless hunters from the EU fly with their hunting weapons over Joburg (to check out there) to Zimbabwe
No one has broken the law.

 

[Jäger_Ivo]

I won't argue, I'm not a lawyer. I will only give my opinion (and the opinion of my lawyer- not expert for internation law) on the official document, which few have read in its entirety. I would just hate for people looking for information here on forum to be confused and have problems.
It's one thing if something is legal or not, it's another thing that someone is checking it or not. There is also a difference between arguing with a lawyer in the office and with a police officer at the airport who can prevent you from flying just because he has a different opinion. This can ruin your whole trip. I wouldn't travel with my own gun - especially now that the embargo has been extended again. But that's just my opinion and view of the matter, I'm not saying it's correct. Maybe you're right, I don't know. I myself hope that they will cancel it and one day I will buy a gun for a dangerous game and travel there with it.

 

[wesheltonj]

If you are from the USA, you cannot have Zimbabwe as your final destination if connecting thru the UK or the EU. Your final destination is somewhere else in Africa. You get a second separate reservation to Zimbabwe. You don’t have this problem if using a Gulf carrier. However, if using Qatar you will need a separate reservation if flying on any other carrier other then Qatar.

 

[Tokoloshe Safaris]

On my way to the airport, vic falls 2 days ago crops dead or dying. Food aid will make up for that (but thats another story.

How bad this drought will be nobody knows. For our hunters we will be more successful than usual because we have poured whatever we have made back into our conservancy. We pump about 200,000 liters a day for our animals.

I might add a greenie group tried to introduce game next to our conservancy were without water. The only ones that survived were the ones that made it into our hunting area.

Lon

 

[Ridge Runner]

So, I'm just doing a check off list of the forms/papers need to make the trip to Zim go smoother. I've been doing quite a bit of research, so hopefully I've got them all covered.

Prior to leaving US:
* SAPS 520. * CBP Form 4457. *Form F.R. 20
*Letter of Motivation. *Letter of Invitation

After the Hunt:
* Return Form TR2. * NP 11 Form
* PH Valid License copy

And can anyone give me some insight if I should look into doing the Global Rescue Membership?

Please feel free to let me know if I've forgot any necessary documents or have something the isn't necessary.

Thanks

Maybe I missed it. The Temporary Visa upon entry. Back in 2021, so I'll have to look back at my notes, I think the Visa was $40.00USD or $80.00USD.

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

I am thinking about the buffalo around Hwange in the near future. That's why I'm asking what it looks like there currently.

I hunted a buffalo near Hwange November 2023. We saw two dead elephants over the course of the hunt. The Game Ranger said 1 was stuck by lighting and previously reported, and the other was a young cow that got stuck in the mud and couldn’t get out. We witnessed lions feeding on that carcass. We observed hundreds of different elephants over the course of my hunt as well as a bunch of buffalo.

I wouldn’t hesitate to hunt the area again and am currently discussing a hunt with a buddy for later this year or next year to the same area.

As for the Rifle, I flew DFW to Harare on Qatar with zero issues. Vic Falls to Harare and I wasn’t even questioned on ammo counts (likely because it was an internal flight). They did ask in Harare but I said I like to pull the trigger and showed them pictures of a lot of guinea fowl and got no additional questions

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

Maybe I missed it. The Temporary Visa upon entry. Back in 2021, so I'll have to look back at my notes, I think the Visa was $40.00USD or $80.00USD.

I believe it was $30 in 2023. I’ll try and remember to check my notes this weekend

 

[Ridge Runner]

On the basis of stupidity. Baggage handlers in Jo'Burg forwarded my guns to SAPS even though they were to check though to Zim. So they sat at SAPS for two days until someone found them through an extensive search.

Fly from US to Harare directly on a premium carrier with only a connection in Dubai and you'll be fine. Dubai doesn't make many mistakes with weapon transport. Oh, and business class on Emirates costs very little more than coach on most carriers and it happens to be arguably the most prestigious airline in the world.

I went through Doha to Jo'berg arriving around 0500. My firearms went to SAPS, but I was aware of it prior to leaving the US since it was a transfer to Harare.

My flight from O.R.Tambo to Harare departed at around 1000hrs (?) that same day to Harare.

I ended up with a 30 day firearms permit vs the original 14 day permit which made things a lot easier upon my return to Jo'berg and on to PE later that afternoon.

 

[Pheroze]

Canada has imposed an arms embargo on Zimbabwe. I was informed about it incidentally by the officer processing my application to the USA.

Does anyone know whether this prohibits hunting rifles? I asked the officer with the Export Controls Division and they cannot give advice. So the only way to find out is to apply!

Current sanctions imposed by Canada

Canada has sanctions and related measures in place against a number of countries, as well as sanctions against specific individuals and entities identified as being: (i) responsible for, or complicit in, extrajudicial killings, torture or other gross violations of internationally recognized...

www.international.gc.ca

 

[rookhawk]

Canada has imposed an arms embargo on Zimbabwe. I was informed about it incidentally by the officer processing my application to the USA.

Does anyone know whether this prohibits hunting rifles? I asked the officer with the Export Controls Division and they cannot give advice. So the only way to find out is to apply!

Current sanctions imposed by Canada

Canada has sanctions and related measures in place against a number of countries, as well as sanctions against specific individuals and entities identified as being: (i) responsible for, or complicit in, extrajudicial killings, torture or other gross violations of internationally recognized...

www.international.gc.ca

When in doubt, book a ticket to RSA and a separate ticket to Zim. The Canuck’s are Satisfied you’re going to RSA and you have your papers in order. Where you go thereafter isn’t their concern.

 

[Pheroze]

When in doubt, book a ticket to RSA and a separate ticket to Zim. The Canuck’s are Satisfied you’re going to RSA and you have your papers in order. Where you go thereafter isn’t their concern.

Where there's a will, there's a way!

 

[Hank2211]

Canada has imposed an arms embargo on Zimbabwe. I was informed about it incidentally by the officer processing my application to the USA.

Does anyone know whether this prohibits hunting rifles? I asked the officer with the Export Controls Division and they cannot give advice. So the only way to find out is to apply!

Current sanctions imposed by Canada

Canada has sanctions and related measures in place against a number of countries, as well as sanctions against specific individuals and entities identified as being: (i) responsible for, or complicit in, extrajudicial killings, torture or other gross violations of internationally recognized...

www.international.gc.ca

Yes, the embargo covers hunting rifles. Canada isn’t the only country which applies the UN sanctions that way - i believe the UK does as well.

Rookhawk has given you a work-around. It’s up to you to decide if you want to use it. The authorities may never find out, but there are two things to bear in mind for this to work:

1. You need to show where you are taking your rifle(s). You will have to supply a letter of invitation from your outfitter, and you have to send in a cover letter which says why you want the temporary export permit. If you don’t have a hunt in South Africa or whatever your transit country is, you won’t be able to provide that, and the work around won’t work.

2. In any case, you have to be comfortable not telling the truth (or at least not the ‘whole truth’) to government officials on official forms (and attesting that you have in fact told the truth). I read recently that the son of a prominent US politician got into some sort of trouble for not telling the truth (or the ‘whole truth’) on a US government form. Not sure the penalties are the same in Canada for that (I don’t think they are, but still . . .), but candidly, it’s not something I’d be entirely comfortable doing.

Hope this helps.

 

[wesheltonj]

(1) The work around requires two separate reservations. (2) Easy enough to get a RSA transit permit.

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

Yes, the embargo covers hunting rifles. Canada isn’t the only country which applies the UN sanctions that way - i believe the UK does as well.

Rookhawk has given you a work-around. It’s up to you to decide if you want to use it. The authorities may never find out, but there are two things to bear in mind for this to work:

1. You need to show where you are taking your rifle(s). You will have to supply a letter of invitation from your outfitter, and you have to send in a cover letter which says why you want the temporary export permit. If you don’t have a hunt in South Africa or whatever your transit country is, you won’t be able to provide that, and the work around won’t work.

2. In any case, you have to be comfortable not telling the truth (or at least not the ‘whole truth’) to government officials on official forms (and attesting that you have in fact told the truth). I read recently that the son of a prominent US politician got into some sort of trouble for not telling the truth (or the ‘whole truth’) on a US government form. Not sure the penalties are the same in Canada for that (I don’t think they are, but still . . .), but candidly, it’s not something I’d be entirely comfortable doing.

Hope this helps.

God Bless America

 

[Hank2211]

(1) The work around requires two separate reservations. (2) Easy enough to get a RSA transit permit.

That’s right, of course, but you still have to have a reason to take a rifle to the first destination, which can’t be in Zimbabwe.

 

[Longwalker]

Hank2211 has given good advice. I suggest you listen to him.

 

[Mark R]

Oz also has a similar embargo.