Attacked by dangerous game while hunting something else?

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I'm sure it's happened to at least a few people here.

How many of you have been attacked during an unexpected encounter with dangerous game while hunting for something else?

1. Charged by a buffalo while hunting plains game?

2. Attacked by a lion or leopard while hunting buffalo?

3. Charged by a surprise elephant while hunting hippo?

I'm guessing this is more the case in "wild Africa" where there are no fences, but I assume these surprise encounters may also occur in South Africa.

Let's hear your story.
 
I may be wrong but with having a PH by your side all the time that you are in the field I'd guess that the odds of any of those things happening would be very low.

If you are in a area where dangerous game would be I would surmise that the PH would be armed and that he would be aware of the situation that you are in.

However you didn't include the most dangerous animal out there that most of us are attacked by every year. The mosquitoes.
 
Read my twenty seventeen hunt report from Zim. My buddy and his wife experienced a full on, unprovoked charge from a cow elephant while hunting plainsgame. The PH’s rifle malfunctioned and the cow put him down. When it turned on my buddy, he dropped it with his three seventy five. He believes that the barrel was actually touching the cows forehead when he fired around the trunk of a tree.

I read lots of chatter on here about not needing to stop a charge if you’re with a PH. I have been on a few DG follow-ups. As far as I am concerned, that is some of the worst advice I’ve ever heard. The PH cannot possibly be in position to have the first shot on a charge from every possible point on the compass. If you start the game, you’d better be capable of finishing it.
 
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Had a 3 meter+ black mamba damn near crawl in my window of a moving bakkie while slow rolling back to camp in the western mountains of Namibia. I had the binos up to my face, focusing way off as one does, looking for game. I dropped the binos and the head of that snake came into focus just a foot or two from my face… well… that will get your attention. That sombitch was slithering at the same speed as the truck and his head was level with mine in the truck.

We nervously laughed it off later but it woulda been lots of bad news had it gotten into the cab with me and John.

Ed Z
 
Never had anything really hairy happen while hunting overseas. We did get charged in Zimbabwe by a foul-tempered cow elephant. We were in the Toyota, driving slowly on a sandy track, looking for buffalo. The driver (PH) put it in reverse and the chase was on. After what seemed a long way and a long time, with the elephant getting taller by the second, she gave up and went back to her herd. Then she decided to chase us two more times. Very protective of her herd or maybe just a bad case of PMS. It happens.
While hunting buffalo in SA near Kruger we looked over our shoulders and saw a big male lion watching the same herd. He had no interest in us and trotted off. No danger there, just a cool experience.
 
I spent some time up a tree after bumping into a black rhino while tracking eland. Interesting experience.

I haven’t had an issue yet but while tracking other game when running into elephant cows, I can see the PH’s demeanor change a lot. They have no shortage of hair raising stories involving cow elephant.
 
Read my twenty seventeen hunt report from Zim. My buddy and his wife experienced a full on, unprovoked charge from a cow elephant while hunting plainsgame. The PH’s rifle malfunctioned and the cow put him down. When it turned on my buddy, he dropped it with his three seventy five. He believes that the barrel was actually touching the cows forehead when he fired around the trunk of a tree.

I read lots of chatter on here about not needing to stop a charge if you’re with a PH. I have been on a few DG follow-ups. As far as I am concerned, that is some of the worst advice I’ve ever heard. The PH cannot possibly be in position to have the first shot on a charge from every possible point on the compass. If you start the game, you’d better be capable of finishing it.

I looked up your hunt report. Amazing read and Thank God how it turned out!
 
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I also wrote in detail on the Forum about an elephant attack during a buffalo hunt. My team had fled and I was alone with the elephant. I almost had to shoot him, but for some reason he changed his mind at the last moment. I suspect he got afraid when he saw the rifle caliber 460 Weatherby Magnum pointed at him.
 
No attack but stare down with , I think three, young buffalos while taking a rest after a failed stalk of a blesbok.

We got up after a short rest and there stood suddenly three buffalos at approximately 10 meters.

PH had rested his rifle against another tree and I had only a 30-06 in my hands. After a short staredown they started to leave. PH said he almost had taken the rifle out of my hand if they had set another couple of steps.

You feel rather undergunned at that moment.
 
Had a 3 meter+ black mamba damn near crawl in my window of a moving bakkie while slow rolling back to camp in the western mountains of Namibia. I had the binos up to my face, focusing way off as one does, looking for game. I dropped the binos and the head of that snake came into focus just a foot or two from my face… well… that will get your attention. That sombitch was slithering at the same speed as the truck and his head was level with mine in the truck.

We nervously laughed it off later but it woulda been lots of bad news had it gotten into the cab with me and John.
We also had a similar Mamba event. Cruising slow looking for Eland tracks. As I saw the very long Mamba laying in the sun next to the trail. It stood up immediately and had half its body vertical with its head TOO close to us riding in the back. As we yelled Mamba. The PH stopped the truck to hear what we were yelling.

Luckily the snake lowered and was gone in a flash.

We have also had cow elephants get cheeky
 
A few incidents come to mind.

INCIDENT 1
During the 1971 Indo-Pak war, I was serving in the East Bengal Regiment as a Staff Sergeant when my unit faced two attacks from an Asian sloth bear (in the Mymensingh-India border) & a Gaur (in the Chittagong Hill Tracts) when we were on night patrol in search of enemy soldiers. By then, the Pakistani garrisons had already been overrun in these areas but our commanding officer was paranoid that the Pakistani forces might attempt to take back the garrisons from Bengali control. We killed both the Asian sloth bear & the Gaur. Although on both incidents, I realized just how poor a weapon a .308 Winchester FN FAL (loaded with 147Gr Indian Ordinance Factories FMJ military ball) really is against four legged dangerous game.

INCIDENT 2
I hunted a Seladang in the hills of Chiengmai, Northern Thailand in 1979. While my guides were butchering the meat, they were attacked by a leopard. I managed to kill the leopard, but not before he gave me a little trouble. I was using a .30-06 Springfield Anschutz Modell 110 on that particular hunt, and the only ammunition I had with me… were solids (Kynoch 220Gr round nosed steel jacketed FMJ) which are unsuitable for body shots on leopard.

INCIDENT 3 (THIS STORY IS NOT MINE BUT IS FAR TOO GRIPPING NOT TO SHARE)

Those of you who’ve read my autobiography, will recall that I mentioned a hunter (and close personal friend) by the name of Sitesh Daas. He’s the manager of a tea estate along the Sylhet-India border. On a cold foggy morning in the winter of 1991 (back when the border was still unfenced), Sitesh went out into the interior of the tea estate to hunt red jungle fowl (wild chicken). He was armed with his 12 gauge 3” Magnum fully choked Midland Gun Company boxlock non ejector. In one barrel, he had loaded an Eley Magnum 46 gram #1 shell (for hunting red junglefowl). In the other barrel, he had loaded an Eley Alphamax 36 gram LG buckshot shell (for self defense lest he run into a wild boar which are quite abundant in that territory). This decision would end up saving his life.

Due to the fog, Sitesh could not see everything clearly and he accidentally stepped on a sleeping Asian sloth bear. The enraged animal charged at Sitesh, who (in self defense) fired the barrel loaded with the LG shell into the bear’s chest. Range was eight or nine feet maximum. The bear swiped at Sitesh’s face with his huge paw, tearing off a huge chunk of Sitesh’s bottom right face. Sitesh passed out, while the bear went a full mile forward before succumbing to the buckshot wound.

Sitesh was airlifted and given treatment by the tea estate owner at Dacca CMH (Combined Military Hospital). The bear’s claws narrowly missed Sitesh’s right eye by an inch. It took extensive reconstructive facial surgeries but after two whole years… Sitesh was finally able to eat solid food again. Today, he continues to hunt and bless me with his excellent friendship. If he had mistakenly fired the barrel with the #1 birdshot shell in it, instead of the barrel with the LG buckshot shell in it… Then, today Sitesh would not be among the living. The fact that he was armed with a double trigger side by side (which allowed him to instantly choose which shell he wanted to fire) instead of a single barrel, a pump action, a semi automatic or even a double barrel shotun equipped with a single trigger (be it selective or non selective)… is what ended up saving his life.

Here’s the Asian sloth bear from Incident 1.
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Cameroon rainforest tracking bongo and the Pygmy tracker actually, physically bumped into a dwarf forest elephant that the. Started a serious run around and jump around with my wife and I in the middle of the daisy circle. No one touched but a lot of fast heartbeats for about 15 seconds while the else figured which way to run.
The pygmies vanished into thin air while the PH my wife and I stood there wondering what happened.
 
My uncle and I had a nuisance coastal brown bear come in to our tent camp one night
And start raising holy hell and was a tent fabric width away from my shotgun, close enough that his breathing would make the tent move , no amount of noise could make him leave , he really tore up the camp, next day we found a huge wormy pile of scat next to the tents , luckily he moved up river to terrorize the fishermen next door
A state trooper flew out and kill him after we left

My buddy and his wife had hippo problems every night they walked back to the cruiser
His wife is so terrified of hippos she probably will never go back to Zimbabwe
 
I'm sure it's happened to at least a few people here.

How many of you have been attacked during an unexpected encounter with dangerous game while hunting for something else?

1. Charged by a buffalo while hunting plains game?

2. Attacked by a lion or leopard while hunting buffalo?

3. Charged by a surprise elephant while hunting hippo?

I'm guessing this is more the case in "wild Africa" where there are no fences, but I assume these surprise encounters may also occur in South Africa.

Let's hear your story.

I've been charged by a buffalo after I shot it, but that doesn't count. I put a poor shot on a cat and thought I was going to have problems because it was mighty angry for an hour, but it turned out it was totally paralyzed.

About the only "just minding my business" problems I've had in Africa is being in thick jess surrounding by cow elephants. Tons of them. Stomping. Tooting. Getting my wind. Blocking my paths. Running past us.

I hate cow elephants, they are so damned ornery and dangerous. A cow will kill you because you're simply in her country and its a Tuesday. I try not to hunt in thick jess and when I do, I try to hunt in places without cow elephants. Needlessly dangerous, even more so if you're not trying to hunt them.
 
I've been chased by a few cow moose here in Alaska. They don't seem dangerous, but when you seem like a threat to her calf, she most definitely is. Find a tree (or a van once) and keep it between you and her until she loses interest.

My first two hunts in Africa were on a big farm in Namibia and they have some black rhino. A couple years prior to me hunting there one of the owner/PH had a hunter out looking for kudu. They came around a bend in a trail through the brush and spooked a black rhino bull. It charged, hooked him and tossed the PH several feet in the air, landing on rock hard soil. Thankfully it then took off. I saw the X-rays, and the PH pelvis looked like a jigsaw puzzle from the ordeal. He was the hospital for month recuperating.
 
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While hunting buffalo, we met this guy, who didn´t actually charge, but wasn´t happy to see us, (he was also in musk), so we decided to go on our way.

To make things more interesting, you can also see two rhinos on his left.
 
Had a 3 meter+ black mamba damn near crawl in my window of a moving bakkie while slow rolling back to camp in the western mountains of Namibia. I had the binos up to my face, focusing way off as one does, looking for game. I dropped the binos and the head of that snake came into focus just a foot or two from my face… well… that will get your attention. That sombitch was slithering at the same speed as the truck and his head was level with mine in the truck.

We nervously laughed it off later but it woulda been lots of bad news had it gotten into the cab with me and John.

Ed Z
A Black Mamba would just ruin my day. Can you carry a sidearm (like a Ruger .44 Special loaded with #4, #8 shot and a few hollow points) in Namibia with proper permits?
 

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