Do German's just do it best?

[HankBuck]

The Corvette is a bargain, but I'd take a Nissan GT-R over a 'vette. You can get a GT-R (theoretically) for $121K that has AWD and significantly more HP than any Corvette.

@KurtVH - I guess the Nissan GT-R with AWD helps it in the “Snow”?? After the Corvette drove down to Florida - at 190mph !

 

[BJH65]

I have toyed with the idea of selling off a bunch of my “working class” rifles and obtaining a fine bespoke Reimer Johannsen 416 Rigby bolt action, arguably one of the best “pure” hunting rifles made. Maybe in a different reality I would. I have not seen Reimer Johannsen mentioned, but believe they should be in the conversation.

 

[KurtVH]

@KurtVH - I guess the Nissan GT-R with AWD helps it in the “Snow”?? After the Corvette drove down to Florida - at 190mph !

AWD helps it in everything except driving in straight lines.

 

[CZDiesel]

Many, many Tacoma, Landcruiser, Frontier, Xterra, Pathfinder, and Subaru (yes, Subarau) owners would beg to differ.

They can disagree all they want and their SUV’s and Trucks with the short articulation of their IFS vs a stock Jeep Rubicon with a long travel straight axle that has either a sway bar disconnect or a multi position off-road sway bar along with real skid plates, differential lockers both front and rear, much much heavier duty axles, a NP241 transfer case with a 4to1 low gear and that stock Jeep Wrangler Rubicon will SMOKE and of those listed off-road!!! Absolutely no debate on that!!!
Even a standard Wrangler will walk on them!

@KurtVH - based on what I’ve owned and driven and more so on what I’ve “seen” being used Off Road - especially in Africa = TOYOTA !
I never even saw any “Jeep” in Africa but i do see them in the US. The Tacoma & Land Cruiser seem to dominate, hold up well to high mileage and resell very high. But - Jeeps “look cool” and give a great “tuff & rugged’ appearance. Kinda like a big muscular guy on the football filed - that can’t take “a Hit”.

Because there are no American cars are there due to tariffs and no support!

@KurtVH - I guess the Nissan GT-R with AWD helps it in the “Snow”?? After the Corvette drove down to Florida - at 190mph !

Or my AMG SL63 that will do 205mph while giving you a shiatsu massage and listening to a Bang and Olufsen

AWD helps it in everything except driving in straight lines.

Not true, it actually helps most at launch in straight lines! With 50/50 weight on a rear wheel good drivers will keep pace, though the all wheel drive car does make it quite easier to drive fast as the over steer is basically eliminated. Ever see a LeMans GT or Prototype or F1 car using all wheel drive?

 

[sniper7]

In my opinion….absolutely. My Mauser has been flawless. My WWII vet bring back Mauser? Flawless. Pretty impressive IMO.
I have sold off several us made guns that don’t shoot nearly as good as almost brand new vs 70 year old German made that shoot better.

 

[MS 9x56]

I guess I have to say yes the Germans really do just do it better. My most recent rifle acquisition came down to a choice between a savage model 20 in 250-3000 or a Mauser 98 in 8mmx57j. The Mauser had engraving, a half octagon half round barrel, and a stock with 143/4LOP that fit me like a glove. I have been lusting for a savage model 20 for years but the Mauser came home with me.

 

[HankBuck]

AWD helps it in everything except driving in straight lines.

@KurtVH - the only thing AWD does is help sell cars to those that “think” its the same as 4WD and it helps a House Wife keep her Husbands car out-of-a-ditch when it’s raining lightly…..but she’ll still “put a dent in it” while trying to park.
AWD is to OFF ROADING as Masterbation is to Sex —-Not As Good

 

[KurtVH]

@KurtVH - the only thing AWD does is help sell cars to those that “think” its the same as 4WD and it helps a House Wife keep her Husbands car out-of-a-ditch when it’s raining lightly…..but she’ll still “put a dent in it” while trying to park.
AWD is to OFF ROADING as Masterbation is to Sex —-Not As Good

If I was taking a sports car offroad that would be germane.

 

[wesheltonj]

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][emoji6]]]@KurtVH - the only thing AWD does is help sell cars to those that “think” its the same as WD and it helps a House Wife keep her Husbands car out-of-a-ditch when it’s raining lightly…..but she’ll still “put a dent in it” while trying to park.
AWD is to OFF ROADING as Masterbation is to Sex —-Not As Good

MB sells a lot of G-wagons. Some military, some not and all are AWD. They seem to work fine off road.

 

[KurtVH]

They can disagree all they want and their SUV’s and Trucks with the short articulation of their IFS vs a stock Jeep Rubicon with a long travel straight axle that has either a sway bar disconnect or a multi position off-road sway bar along with real skid plates, differential lockers both front and rear, much much heavier duty axles, a NP241 transfer case with a 4to1 low gear and that stock Jeep Wrangler Rubicon will SMOKE and of those listed off-road!!! Absolutely no debate on that!!!
Even a standard Wrangler will walk on them!

I guess all the middle east war lords pick Toyotas and Nissans because they prefer getting "SMOKED."

(Exclamation points don't actually strengthen your argument, BTW)

Because there are no American cars are there due to tariffs and no support!

Huh? American cars are sold all over the world including in Africa. Hell, Ford and GM produce cars in Africa.

There are over 20 Jeep dealers in South Africa alone. You don't see many of them being used in the bush because there are better options.

 

[KurtVH]

Not true, it actually helps most at launch in straight lines! With 50/50 weight on a rear wheel good drivers will keep pace, though the all wheel drive car does make it quite easier to drive fast as the over steer is basically eliminated. Ever see a LeMans GT or Prototype or F1 car using all wheel drive?

I think all LMH cars are AWD (rear ICE and front electric driven).

F1 HP limits makes AWD infeasible for that class, I think.