Not saying you’re wrong, but curious as to why you think so… can you elaborate on this?I don’t expect the (.375) Ruger to be widely available soon.
I’d say ammo availability is a bigger consideration than ammo price for me for choosing a hunting cartridge. I wouldn’t buy a 375 Ruger over a 375 H&H because I don’t expect the Ruger to be widely available soon. Price per bullet isn’t really a consideration. I own a 300 H&H and am glad to have it, but probably wouldn’t buy a new one today over a 300 win for the same reason. The cartridges I have that I expect to fade away (300 H&H and 450 Rigby) I’ve bought up ammo as I’ve seen good deals available for them.
Strictly speaking about price though I’d probably never buy a 22 Hornet over a 223 rem just because of pricing on factory ammo. Same with 17 HMR over 22 LR. Larger standard hunting calibers though where I typically wouldn’t shoot that many rounds cost per round isn’t much of a consideration.
For me no whatsoever…however the availability of reloading supplies for a caliber absolutely!!! Right now I have a chance to buy a nice, not beautiful Rigby 450 NE at a good price yet it is so incredibly hard to get brass for it…yes I have gotten Dies and one shell holder. I have primers and powderI realize when you get into the upper medium bore and large bore rifles that factory ammunition and reloading components are going to be expensive.
However, if you are looking at anything from let's say 9.3x62 and down, do you consider the price of ammunition or components when buying a rifle? Do you go with the cheaper ammo or a more common caliber as opposed to the one that is $10-20 or more higher per box?
For example, would you pick a 7mm Rem Mag over a .280 AI? You can find plenty of S&B ammo for $20 per box in 7mm mag for practice while you start at about $35 or so for anything in .280 AI. The price of premium ammo does start to even out.
Or here is another real world case. I found a custom .300 H&H with beautiful wood, Timney trigger, glass bedded, etc. with a barrel band for $600. However, when I looked for ammo the price per box was $100 and higher. Brass, if I could find it, was likewise expensive. Mentally, I just gave it a pass even though I love less common calibers just because.
Maybe I’ll be wrong but aside from Ruger no good quality reliable factory rifles were made in 375 Ruger. All other manufacturers stuck with 375 H&H. There are some semi-custom ammo options but the only widely available factory ammo for 375 Ruger is Hornady. Time will tell but the 375 H&H is here to stay. I don’t think the same for 375 Ruger unless different manufacturers such as Winchester, Blaser, Sako, etc were to begin offering the chambering, but I think the enthusiasm for the cartridge has long faded.Not saying you’re wrong, but curious as to why you think so… can you elaborate on this?
If anything I was thinking the opposite, it seems to be growing in popularity. Now you have Ruger, of course, chambering as well as savage and Mossberg and most of the smaller manufacturers of ammunition, such as buffalo bore have all started producing ammunition, and I actually suspect it would be a matter of time before you see more mainstream production.
I liken it to the 280 Ackley improved which just a few years ago you couldn’t find a factory box anywhere and now with almost every rifle manufacturer chambering a rifle in the caliber most of the big name manufacturers are also producing ammunition.
I bought a 280rem in the 90s and hardly anybody knew what it was… And still not a very popular chambering, but oddly enough, the 280 actually improved as far surpassed it in popularity
I thought our sponsor Raven Rock had 450 nitro brass for awhile?For me no whatsoever…however the availability of reloading supplies for a caliber absolutely!!! Right now I have a chance to buy a nice, not beautiful Rigby 450 NE at a good price yet it is so incredibly hard to get brass for it…yes I have gotten Dies and one shell holder. I have primers and powder
Possibly so…. And I know this is heresy around here but I do believe the 375 ruger to be the superior cartridge.Maybe I’ll be wrong but aside from Ruger no good quality reliable factory rifles were made in 375 Ruger. All other manufacturers stuck with 375 H&H. There are some semi-custom ammo options but the only widely available factory ammo for 375 Ruger is Hornady. Time will tell but the 375 H&H is here to stay. I don’t think the same for 375 Ruger unless different manufacturers such as Winchester, Blaser, Sako, etc were to begin offering the chambering, but I think the enthusiasm for the cartridge has long faded.
I love sidetracks! Just ask my wife.Possibly so…. And I know this is heresy around here but I do believe the 375 ruger to be the superior cartridge.
And, anecdotally, there are roughly the same number of 375 h&h as 375 ruger for sale on gunbroker.
Sorry to the OP for the sidetrack….
From your lips to God’s ears my friend!!!I thought our sponsor Raven Rock had 450 nitro brass for awhile?
I do t worry about price much. I reload.. so for me its availability of components..
Depends on the definition of superior. Ballistics slightly, but ammo availability and quality rifles the H&H is clear winner. If the Ruger had the rifle options the H&H does I don’t think I’d worry about ammo in future. Looking at Gunbroker the 375 Ruger really only has one option a Ruger rifle and a few savages and Mossbergs. The H&H on Gunbroker is available in CZ, Winchester, Ruger, Remington, Kimber, Browning, Bergara, Christensen, Steyr, Rigby, Dakota, Blaser, Weatherby and more just on first page. The 375 Ruger has mostly pinned itself to Ruger rifles so unless Ruger becomes more popular the 375 Ruger will not either.Possibly so…. And I know this is heresy around here but I do believe the 375 ruger to be the superior cartridge.
And, anecdotally, there are roughly the same number of 375 ruger as 375 h&h for sale on gunbroker.
Sorry to the OP for the sidetrack….
It’s not got to be that bigI realize when you get into the upper medium bore and large bore rifles that factory ammunition and reloading components are going to be expensive.
However, if you are looking at anything from let's say 9.3x62 and down, do you consider the price of ammunition or components when buying a rifle? Do you go with the cheaper ammo or a more common caliber as opposed to the one that is $10-20 or more higher per box?
For example, would you pick a 7mm Rem Mag over a .280 AI? You can find plenty of S&B ammo for $20 per box in 7mm mag for practice while you start at about $35 or so for anything in .280 AI. The price of premium ammo does start to even out.
Or here is another real world case. I found a custom .300 H&H with beautiful wood, Timney trigger, glass bedded, etc. with a barrel band for $600. However, when I looked for ammo the price per box was $100 and higher. Brass, if I could find it, was likewise expensive. Mentally, I just gave it a pass even though I love less common calibers just because.