Mark Sullivan shows us how to handle a Double Rifle

[edward]

Well you never know when you may do battle with a mouse....so you'll be prepared now!

dont forget the 500 N.E.

 

[spike.t]

Now you make me want to watch this just to see what you are talking about. Damn!

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[Buckdog]

Damn that guy is a nut job! Cant believe anyone who goes out the door to purposely mess with wounded animal and get them to charge has lived that long. I would love to hunt with him and gut shoot a couple so I can stand back and watch how a real hero PH does it, but first I want to get some life insurance out on him

 

[Odinsraven]

Damn that guy is a nut job! Cant believe anyone who goes out the door to purposely mess with wounded animal and get them to charge has lived that long. I would love to hunt with him and gut shoot a couple so I can stand back and watch how a real hero PH does it, but first I want to get some life insurance out on him

My problem would be which target the dangerous game or the dangerous mouth ......

 

[Royal27]

dont forget the 500 N.E.

454 just ain't enough gun!

 

[edward]

Damn that guy is a nut job! Cant believe anyone who goes out the door to purposely mess with wounded animal and get them to charge has lived that long. I would love to hunt with him and gut shoot a couple so I can stand back and watch how a real hero PH does it, but first I want to get some life insurance out on him

dont think i would want to hurt an animal to watch his bull shit.hopefully he will get his,sooner or later.SOONER?????

 

[siml]

He does make some valued points........you don't need all the crap on your belt, I have seen that several times, next day belt is empty. I take offense to my bra strap binocs..

You got to give him credit, he's quicker than a lot of his clients taking the safety off....how do you congratulate a client for an animal and he hasn't even pulled the trigger...

I will agree with him on the amount of buffalo charges.

@BRICKBURN your fault..you made me watch the whole video!!!

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

He makes quite a few valid points and I agree and follow a couple of them. I don't carry anything, except my ammo belt, with shells ready for quick extraction.
Secondly, I agree fully regarding the binoculars. I have two pairs of binoculars I use. One set is on a harness for plains game, and the other is a simple pair of 8x30 Swaros on a regular strap swung across my body. On follow ups, the harness gets in the way and hinders shouldering your rifle.

 

[rookhawk]

@KMG Hunting Safaris i agree with his bino as being "one proper way" but not the "only proper way".

I wear a FHF harness on my chest. Mine doesn't tangle. Mine doesn't interfere with running or shooting. So even money there.

What my harness does do better is: keep my $3400 binos safer. Let me carry a lens cleaner, memory cards for other firing solution calibers. I will climb, crawl and move on a stalk much better than someone wearing binos using Sullivan's method. Lastly, I'm less likely to be made out by game because my binos don't move as much from at my face to at ready position.

But again, Sullivan assumes no one has given any thought to this other than him. I thought about and tested bino arrangements for days until I found the finest approach for DG hunting possible for me.

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

@KMG Hunting Safaris i agree with his bino as being "one proper way" but not the "only proper way".

I wear a FHF harness on my chest. Mine doesn't tangle. Mine doesn't interfere with running or shooting. So even money there.

What my harness does do better is: keep my $3400 binos safer. Let me carry a lens cleaner, memory cards for other firing solution calibers. I will climb, crawl and move on a stalk much better than someone wearing binos using Sullivan's method. Lastly, I'm less likely to be made out by game because my binos don't move as much from at my face to at ready position.

But again, Sullivan assumes no one has given any thought to this other than him. I thought about and tested bino arrangements for days until I found the finest approach for DG hunting possible for me.

I use exactly the same Leicas as you do, as I have been following your trouble with Leica in the other thread. The value of the binoculars, has zero to do with where I wear them on a dangerous game hunt. Those who know me, will tell you, that I put little to no value to my tools, whether it is my binoculars or my double rifle. Do I look after them as much as I can, yes I do. It still does not make them anything more than tools in my line of work. On a harness, with the binoculars on my chest,following up on dangerous game, they get in the way on a quick pick up. I want as little as possible in the way for when I need to shoulder my rifle. Using a normal strap, allows me to tuck it under my arm and out of the way.

On plains game, where I have time, I carry them on a harness on my chest for a quick pick up. Would not want it any other place.

 

[rookhawk]

These guys are what works best for me on DG:

http://fhfgear.com/hunting/bino-harness/

Never would I wear an exposed chest harness where the binos dangle like a birdwatcher or duck hunter would use. They have to get put away so I can crawl in the mire and they must be put away instantly and silently.

 

[siml]

The new design binocular harness is brilliant, stays tight against your body. @rookhawk , I have similar to yours, just little less pockets, not a single scratch on my binocs last season, Mr Swarovski gave them to me after his hunt, so a bit of sentimental value.

 

[Foxi]

He does make some valued points........you don't need all the crap on your belt, I have seen that several times, next day belt is empty. I take offense to my bra strap binocs..

You got to give him credit, he's quicker than a lot of his clients taking the safety off....how do you congratulate a client for an animal and he hasn't even pulled the trigger...

I will agree with him on the amount of buffalo charges.

@BRICKBURN your fault..you made me watch the whole video!!!

and I agree with you, especially the buffalo charges.
Normally its not a dangerous animal, but always very well respected.

OK, I m not so experienced with a few buffalos on my list,but I always good listening what my PH's are saying.
And not one of them was a beginner.
I saw round 2.000 buffs on my hunting trips and I was so often so close to them,sometimes to close.
When we stumbled(read stalking into groups of buffs in the high grass until to 8 meters !
and not only one buff did attack us.
If it was lions or elephants, I would be dead long ago.
And the one I wounded heavy ,doesnt want to fight also,we found him after 30 minutes and we was happy he decided not to fight.
I must always laugh,when I see the headlines in a forum " I hunted black death "
Its nonsene.
Our wild boars at home attack much quicker.
But you never know which buff-comrade you get.
Wounded by a poacher bullet,wounded by snares or lions ,or just badly on it.
It is the cream in the coffee of hunting,but I was always happy to know experienced PH's on my side.
To see a DG hunt as a battle ,sorry I dont understand that.
I love hunting and I hate war .
Foxi

 

[Ruark]

"I must always laugh,when I see the headlines in a forum " I hunted black death "
Its nonsene. Our wild boars at home attack much quicker."

Never been to Africa, but killed my share of boars. They're pretty easy to put down, and don't weigh 2,000 pounds. J.A. Hunter told of a buff's heart that was cut out and continued beating for 4 hours. I personally knew a guy who shot a buff 17 times in the neck with a .458 before it finally went down.

I understand your point, but somebody (I think Capstick or Selby) said something like, "99 out of 100 animals won't hurt you; it's that 1 out of 100 that turns you into a puddle of red chili."

Sullivan simply gives them more of a chance to do so than the guy who "stands back" and plugs an animal from 100 yards off with a scope and bipod. As long as the client understands what he's getting into, I don't see anything wrong with it. I would book with him in a heartbeat.

 

[rookhawk]

@Ruark I can't tolerate his opinion as it has a serious consequence you may not have considered.

Hunting is only ethical when we attempt and make all reasonable efforts to prevent or reduce duration of animal suffering.

Not cleanly killing the animal with a calculated, expeditious second shot as soon as possible is textbook unethical. You cannot even get a hunter safety card in the US without being tested on that moral principle.

I've seen Sullivan BS on video with the client while a buffalo is crawling on two legs for a few minutes with a severed spine.

If Sullivan can tolerate an animal suffering like that and have a chat with a client, he is a psychopath. Zero empathy for the animal. Zero respect.

We can't "agree to disagree" and chock this one up to "hunter's are in a big tent together".

 

[Pondoro]

You nailed it Roo...eloquently I might add..

 

[Philip Glass]

These guys are what works best for me on DG:

http://fhfgear.com/hunting/bino-harness/

Never would I wear an exposed chest harness where the binos dangle like a birdwatcher or duck hunter would use. They have to get put away so I can crawl in the mire and they must be put away instantly and silently.

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I find all these too cumbersome and real hot in hot weather. I use Rick Young's Bino harness that is available on his website and at DSC. A far superior product in my opinion. It can be used as Mark recommends on the side or in the bra position as he calls it!
I'll say this at least he speaks from real experience. Many voices out there in the hunting world just don't really carry that much gravitas.
Enjoyed the video!
Philip

 

[spike.t]

He does make some valued points........you don't need all the crap on your belt, I have seen that several times, next day belt is empty.

ok never got past the binos... but ....yeah agree on this

He makes quite a few valid points and I agree and follow a couple of them. I don't carry anything, except my ammo belt, with shells ready for quick extraction.

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

@Ruark I can't tolerate his opinion as it has a serious consequence you may not have considered.

Hunting is only ethical when we attempt and make all reasonable efforts to prevent or reduce duration of animal suffering.

Not cleanly killing the animal with a calculated, expeditious second shot as soon as possible is textbook unethical. You cannot even get a hunter safety card in the US without being tested on that moral principle.

I've seen Sullivan BS on video with the client while a buffalo is crawling on two legs for a few minutes with a severed spine.

If Sullivan can tolerate an animal suffering like that and have a chat with a client, he is a psychopath. Zero empathy for the animal. Zero respect.

We can't "agree to disagree" and chock this one up to "hunter's are in a big tent together".

We haven't seen eye to eye on different subjects......but damn if I can't get totally behind that post, can't be said too strongly.

 

[rookhawk]

We haven't seen eye to eye on different subjects......but damn if I can't get totally behind that post, can't be said too strongly.

@PHOENIX PHIL i actually enjoy your posts greatly. Constructive contention makes everyone better. I've never thought our differences of opinions were hostile because they were never ethically opposed, just different.

That's the difference with Mr. Sullivan...we have a big tent as hunter's but it isn't so big we'll tolerate those that will get our sport banned.