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Those shops closed when the men that taught them retired and there were no qualified replacements; I graduated in 2002 and the high school machine shop closed in 2005.

My HS friends that took those courses started with learning welding, cutting torch, lathe and mill. By the time we were Jr.'s they knew CAD, CNC CAD programing and were actually building things usually for their race/muscle cars.... How many 17-18yo do you know today that could bend pipe and weld good enough to custom fabricate a roll cage inside a Z28 Camaro?

I also remember the shit storm that ensued when our principle Mr. O'neal walked into that shop and caught my buddy Steve installing the mount for Nitrous Oxide bottles in the trunk of that Z28; he would have been expelled if not for our school resource officer pointing out that there is nothing illegal about an 18yo possessing an EMPTY nitrous oxide bottle. This is the same police officer that turned a blind eye to us showing up late on the opening day of dove season still clad in camo.

When I went to college, they went to Wyo tech and by the time we were 25 yo Steve and the others owned their own businesses and houses while I was just graduating and paying on student loan balances more then their houses and with higher interest rates.

Now try asking college freshman if they can explain what Square, Plumb & Level means......

It's not the kids that are failing to learn, its the education system that is failing the kids.
When I was a junior in high school i brought my Yamaha YZ 125 to welding class to fix a broken frame. The Welding shop teacher helped me fix
Probably a no-no in the the eyes of the school principal, but the shop teacher didn't care.
 
I've personally visited Griffin & Howe here in NJ. They gave me a tour of their gunsmith facility. The oddest place for an establishment of that caliber...NJ. They are probably one of the few in the world that still fit that description.

I personally held a repaired $75,000 OU shotgun. Cracked the stock right at the grip. I couldn't even tell it was repaired.

Unbelievably down to earth folks too. Especially for residing on a hunting club that costs $50,000 a year membership with a first year $75,000 registration fee.

Unbelievable place, I have been fortunate to have been invited there 3 times. Took their long range shooting school. I believe you have to be invited or have a member vouch for you to get in as a member. Not sure if that has change or not.

The service you get there is 2nd to none.
 
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Absolutely true. I attempted to make a go as a gunsmith back in the 90’s when double guns were experiencing a new swell of popularity. I specialized in action/ejector repairs, wood repair, stocking, and rust blue. What I found was there was plenty of work but few who wanted to pay fairly for that work. Take for example rejoining barrels. At that time, I would remove the ribs, clean the rust, polish the barrels, re- lay the ribs, and reblue the barrels, ensure no point of impact change, and if I asked more than $500 I wouldn’t get the work. The picture is a full days work of handmade main springs for sidelock shotguns. Each one fashioned from a plane stick of carbon steel by files and sand paper. Then hardened, which I had done by a heat treat specialist who had a minimum charge for oven time. Yes, I can harden one myself but after you spend two hours shaping a spring the last thing you want is to find out it isn’t a spring. I had people about stroke when I asked $100 to make and fit a new spring in their $10000 shotgun.
I did have several reliable customers but they were mostly older gentleman who collected and shot those guns, but no where near enough of them to provide enough work for a living. After I gave it up I still took on their projects as personal favors but all of them have gone on to their reward. Now I don’t see anything close to enough demand for a talented young person starting out, not in fine guns, and there’s a big difference between building AR’s and custom work on classic doubles.

Similar situation in the protective services world..

I ran a company in the late 90's and early 2000's that did short term protective services work.. anything from doing PVSA (personal vulnerability security assessments) for high net worth families to running CARVER-SHOCK on critical infrastructure for "Fortune" sized businesses.. doing personal protective work for celebrities', top tier sports figures, and senior executives at those "Fortune" businesses.. so not your typical polyester suit wearing security guard work.. It was very specialized, and the vast majority of the people we employed were former military special operations types, law enforcement special operations types, or law enforcement investigators from major metropolitan areas..

Our billable rate back then was about $60 an hour for domestic work, and typically $800 per day for work overseas.. (would obviously be a whole lot higher now)..

People would get sticker shock at least 20-30% of the time when we would present quotes for work that was requested..

At the time a good plumber or electrician in the same market area was about $50 an hour..

So my response was typically something along the lines of "you believe your personal welfare (or multi-million dollar facility, etc..etc..) is at risk and you are asking professionals to help you solve your problem... you'll pay a plumber $50 an hour to unclog p-trap full of hair and not complain about the cost.. but you'd prefer I find a $18 an hour guy with an armed guards license to secure your physical well being (or familys well being, multimillion dollar business well being, etc)?"..

Theyd usually sign pretty quickly after that..
 
Gunsmithing pays absolute crap and to be truly competent requires 35 years of experience. Allow me to explain: Five years on the job and you've mastered your craft. Lets say you hop in a time machine and visit 1930 London and walk into Purdey. You'll see a master stocker, master checkerer, master engraver, master barrel mechanic, master lock maker, master action filer, master ejector builder, master blacker/browner/bluer.

To be able to competently restore a best gun today you need 8x the mastery of the original maker. You're expected to be able to do master level craftsmanship across 8-10 disciplines whereas the original maker had no such equivelant expectation.

If you can achieve that level of skill and you have a million dollars of tools, equipment, and workshop, you can charge $150 per hour for your work.

Or you can graduate high school and take a paid apprenticeship at 18 years old and by 21-24 years old you're making $150 an hour.

Becoming a professional gunsmith is a financially ruinous decision.
Tell that to J.J. Perodeaux, I saw an interview where he was talking about his son wants to attend gunsmithing school in Belgium.

Now take double guns out of the equation the number of good magnum bolt gunsmiths is fewer by the day.

I will say the gun makers guild booth with apprentices at DSC always made me happy to see those young faces.
 
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Colonel of Greenlands space force base stripped of command, after sending out a mass email after JD Vances visit.

More than likely well deserved…….. bad form to speak ill of your commander in chief……
 
The fact that as a “adult” Rogan at the bare minimum spoke favorably of Bernie Sanders (FIVE/SIX YEARS AGO) disqualifies him from being considered as a serious person/commentator.. He’s certainly not a moral exemplar or positive role model when you look at the whole picture objectively.

I guess that's part of what puts me off with people like him. Holding such naive views so far into adulthood is off putting.
 
More than likely well deserved…….. bad form to speak ill of your commander in chief……
Relieving her of command was exactly the right thing to do. One can assume the left will howl. I would remind that this is exactly the sort of behavior that resulted in the relief of LTC Stuart Scheller, USMC when he decided a battalion commander had the right to publicly criticize the then administration and his commander in chief about the Afghanistan withdrawal. Many on the right embraced him as a hero. Both richly deserved loss of their commands.
 
On the education topic: at the risk of splitting hairs and/or engaging in semantics…

Because of how I was raised, I’ve always seen being educated and being trained for a job as two totally different things. You can absolutely be both. I have a Chemical Engineering degree for which I worked my butt almost completely off. But my parents, both Ivy League-educated professionals with advanced degrees, made it clear: that degree made me employable, but “educated”? Not quite.

They actually said that. They didn’t consider just a Chemical Engineering degree as being truly “educated.” If you’ve ever tried having a real conversation with an engineer who can’t string together a clear sentence, you probably get where they were coming from.

In their minds, being educated meant majoring in the liberal arts — then going on to get a graduate degree in something STEM-related to be employable. Or the other way around. That’s what they both did. My dad even joked that I could major in liberal arts and skip the advanced technical degree altogether… if I married rich.

That said, my engineering degree did exactly what it was supposed to do: it enabled me to support myself, become quite successful and retire early. Along the way, I was able to take classes, study whatever I wanted, and even fund the arts. So maybe I’ve earned a bit of that “educated” label — even if I don’t have a degree hanging on the wall to prove it.
 
Perfect fit for Austin..
Rogan is largely hated in Austin, he's too "right wing, conservative, ect, ect"

Trust me I lived there for 10 years and ANYONE who doesn't fall in line is with the CNN/Huffington Post crowd is instantly labeled as right wing.

What people do not realize is that Dallas is much the same way.....Just look at Dallas vs. Travis County voting during the last general election.

Yet people from Austin HATE people from Dallas and see them as right wing and the Dallas leftists see Austin as their inferior half retarded cousin.
 
When I was a junior in high school i brought my Yamaha YZ 125 to welding class to fix a broken frame. The Welding shop teacher helped me fix
Probably a no-no in the the eyes of the school principal, but the shop teacher didn't care.
Sounds like my shop class in high school. Instructor would keep the shop open through lunch hour and most weekends and after school so students could work on their vehicles. Long before internet, but we had access to a complete and up to date set of those green colored, hard bound Motor Manuals. Could do most all machine work along with good set of tools. The welding shop was adjacent to the automotive shop and was primarily for working on ag machinery. A lot of practical learning went on there and many student’s vehicles were repaired along with building no small number suicidal “semi-street legal” hot rods :)

Good old days
 
Head of IRS to resign, after agency inks deal to release tax info on illegal immigrants to DHS.

Wait until the data disproves the myth!

The myth: Illegals are good, hard working people, PAYING THEIR TAXES and trying to make a better life. Heck, they're doing jobs legals won't do anyway!

The data will show: Illegals get a bogus SSN or get issued a TIN, collect money via a DBA, then dissolve it and form a new one every so often so they pay no taxes whatsoever. Imagine that, people that commit crime A to get to America commit tax evasion crime B while in America?
 
Wait until the data disproves the myth!

The myth: Illegals are good, hard working people, PAYING THEIR TAXES and trying to make a better life. Heck, they're doing jobs legals won't do anyway!

The data will show: Illegals get a bogus SSN or get issued a TIN, collect money via a DBA, then dissolve it and form a new one every so often so they pay no taxes whatsoever. Imagine that, people that commit crime A to get to America commit tax evasion crime B while in America?
Sounds about right!
 
With all the good news coming out of D.C lately, the proverbial icing on the cake would be Luigi getting the death penalty.
That would put the radical left into a complete tailspin.

I'm certainly not for A.) emboldening the left, nor B.) abandoning the rule of law....however...

It would do the world some good if a jury let that murderer get off scot free. United Healthcare was and is a diabolically crooked, too big to fail organization. A message of "watch your ass" sent to the boards of the healthcare companies would be helpful to society. They can buy all the politicians, but they can't buy off homicidal lone-wolves.

There, I've used up all my anarchy and leftism in my blood for fiscal year 2025.

P.S. - UHC is in the process of F'ing me as we speak. They required numerous delays in care, redundant tests, and triplicate referrals just so I could get coverage that I pay 100% for out of pocket until deductibles are met. (and won't be, hence they just prolonged suffering without any material benefit)
 
I'm certainly not for A.) emboldening the left, nor B.) abandoning the rule of law....however...

It would do the world some good if a jury let that murderer get off scot free. United Healthcare was and is a diabolically crooked, too big to fail organization. A message of "watch your ass" sent to the boards of the healthcare companies would be helpful to society. They can buy all the politicians, but they can't buy off homicidal lone-wolves.

There, I've used up all my anarchy and leftism in my blood for fiscal year 2025.

P.S. - UHC is in the process of F'ing me as we speak. They required numerous delays in care, redundant tests, and triplicate referrals just so I could get coverage that I pay 100% for out of pocket until deductibles are met. (and won't be, hence they just prolonged suffering without any material benefit)
The big pharma and insurance healthcare companies are no doubt greedy and crooked to the core. A huge problem for our healthcare system.
Many big corporate goons that need to be given a one way ticket off this planet.
I do, however, don't condone anyone, outside of really bad actors, being gunned down in cold blood. Its just something that I find cowardly.
 
The big pharma and insurance healthcare companies are no doubt greedy and crooked to the core. A huge problem for our healthcare system.
Many big corporate goons that need to be given a one way ticket off this planet.
I do, however, I don't condone anyone, outside of really bad actors, being gunned down in cold blood. Its just something that I find cowardly.

It's illegal and its cowardly. Nonetheless, society is benefiting from this travesty. The murderer will get the electric chair and the narcissistic sociopaths running the healthcare industry will curtail their misconduct out of fear of a copycat.

One of those moments where we get to sit back, drink a beer, and everyone gets what they deserve. (Unless a jury nullifies this guy which would be very bad for society but would provide momentary pleasure to me)
 
I'm certainly not for A.) emboldening the left, nor B.) abandoning the rule of law....however...

It would do the world some good if a jury let that murderer get off scot free. United Healthcare was and is a diabolically crooked, too big to fail organization. A message of "watch your ass" sent to the boards of the healthcare companies would be helpful to society. They can buy all the politicians, but they can't buy off homicidal lone-wolves.

There, I've used up all my anarchy and leftism in my blood for fiscal year 2025.

P.S. - UHC is in the process of F'ing me as we speak. They required numerous delays in care, redundant tests, and triplicate referrals just so I could get coverage that I pay 100% for out of pocket until deductibles are met. (and won't be, hence they just prolonged suffering without any material benefit)
My 6 year old grandsons claim was just denied. 2 night hospital stay with rsv .
Dr. Said he needed to stay, UHC says it was unnecessary and he could have stayed home. 100% denied
 

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